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Will you vote yes on this resolution? Only WA members please

Yes, I agree
113
37%
Yes, I agree somewhat
30
10%
Undecided
5
2%
No, I disagree somewhat
25
8%
No, I disagree
134
44%
 
Total votes : 307

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Dilange
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Postby Dilange » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:15 am

Great Azarath wrote:
Dilange wrote:
Its not. We've already proven this. NO YOU DIDNT



So is stealing....at least for the thief. ITS NOT TO BOTH PARTIES



Its not bodily sovereignty. Its a business, remember you've already accepted this as fact. I BELIEVE ITS BOTH



Consent has nothing to due with my argument. Stealing is an anciet practice that has benefits. Should we legalize anyhting with those properties? WELL IT HAS TO DO WITH MINE. STEALING HAS NO BENIFITS FOR THE HOST, BUT PROSTITUTION DOES



Some people don't due to the WA mandated abstinence education. We stop them due to live-risking diseases. WELL THIS RESOLUTION INFORMS PEOPLE.



Ok. THANKYOU FOR PROVING MY POINT



Ok. ^^^



And if they are in another country that they do not know the language of? Usually it is with border nations so the languages are virtually one and the same. (ex: USA, CANADA)



Nope. Ive already provided proof to this being false. HA, NO YOU DIDNT



Bodysnatching is a business too yet it is highly illegal. It pays a lot and yet it is illegal in many countries. Why is that?
IT DOESNT HELP ECONOMY BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL

ALL OF YOUR RESPONSES LACK IN COMMON SENSE.


So is prostitution in many countries, making your argument invalid as well. You seem to only discuss one of my counters and yet you use somethign to disprove your argument.

Lack common sense how? explain. Stop saying it and provide proof.

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Postby Dilange » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:16 am

Great Azarath wrote:
Dilange wrote:
We're not though. We just regulating it enouhg that is almost non-existence and not used.

As long as it is not illegal, than so be it.


So you acknowledge that there is a giant loophole in your argument....and?

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Great Azarath
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Postby Great Azarath » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:19 am

Dizyntk wrote:
IT DOESNT HELP ECONOMY BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL

ALL OF YOUR RESPONSES LACK IN COMMON SENSE.


"And all of your responses have lacked credibility, proper sentence structure and a coherent or logical thought process. And screaming only serves to indicate that you are losing this argument rather badly."

I put it in caps so you can realize I put it in the quote and not under. smart one.
Proper sentence structure? You were able to read it weren't you....
Creditability? How so? please explain?
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Postby Dilange » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:22 am

Great Azarath wrote:
Dizyntk wrote:
"And all of your responses have lacked credibility, proper sentence structure and a coherent or logical thought process. And screaming only serves to indicate that you are losing this argument rather badly."

I put it in caps so you can realize I put it in the quote and not under. smart one.
Proper sentence structure? You were able to read it weren't you....
Creditability? How so? please explain?


You havent proved your argument that the WA should legalize this.

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Great Azarath
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Postby Great Azarath » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:29 am

Dilange wrote:
Great Azarath wrote: IT DOESNT HELP ECONOMY BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL

ALL OF YOUR RESPONSES LACK IN COMMON SENSE.


So is prostitution in many countries, making your argument invalid as well. You seem to only discuss one of my counters and yet you use somethign to disprove your argument.

Lack common sense how? explain. Stop saying it and provide proof.

First thing, first. What is your first sentence about? Second sentence, what are you talking about>
Lack common sense, well the stuff your saying its like, dont you see? That doesnt make sense. Obviously it would help the economy, its illegal.....thats what I mean. I know i didnt explain it well but its my best.
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Postby Great Azarath » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:30 am

Dilange wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:I put it in caps so you can realize I put it in the quote and not under. smart one.
Proper sentence structure? You were able to read it weren't you....
Creditability? How so? please explain?


You havent proved your argument that the WA should legalize this.

No, I really did. Havent you noticed? it increased a lot over night. The gap is slowly closing.
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Postby Great Azarath » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:31 am

Dilange wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:As long as it is not illegal, than so be it.


So you acknowledge that there is a giant loophole in your argument....and?

I dont consider it to be a loop hole. Explain further because as your current statement says, it isn't very much like a loop hole
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Postby Dilange » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:32 am

Great Azarath wrote:
Dilange wrote:
So is prostitution in many countries, making your argument invalid as well. You seem to only discuss one of my counters and yet you use somethign to disprove your argument.

Lack common sense how? explain. Stop saying it and provide proof.

First thing, first. What is your first sentence about? Second sentence, what are you talking about>
Lack common sense, well the stuff your saying its like, dont you see? That doesnt make sense. Obviously it would help the economy, its illegal.....thats what I mean. I know i didnt explain it well but its my best.


1) You said because it is illegal it doesnt help the economy. WHich a lot of countries can say about prostitution. THerefore, you used a claim that hurts my counter as well as your own.

2) Thats not proof. Show me proof as in quote somehting I have said that lacks common sense.

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Postby Great Azarath » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:33 am

Dizyntk wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:
IN ALL BUT NAME, I can. I can add regulations that say that prostitutes must have three Physics PHDs to work. Or must be over the age of 90. Or place a 200% tax on them. That way, prostitution is all but illegal, since nobody will be able to reach those standards.

So you are wrong.

"He has been wrong about everything over the last 40 pages, but that has not stopped him."

You can do that for ANY resolution.
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Postby Dilange » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:33 am

Great Azarath wrote:
Dilange wrote:
So you acknowledge that there is a giant loophole in your argument....and?

I dont consider it to be a loop hole. Explain further because as your current statement says, it isn't very much like a loop hole


The WA can pass your proposal but member states can regulate prostitution to make it impossible for prostitution to make revenue.

Itsa loophole.

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Postby Great Azarath » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:36 am

Dilange wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:First thing, first. What is your first sentence about? Second sentence, what are you talking about>
Lack common sense, well the stuff your saying its like, dont you see? That doesnt make sense. Obviously it would help the economy, its illegal.....thats what I mean. I know i didnt explain it well but its my best.


1) You said because it is illegal it doesnt help the economy. WHich a lot of countries can say about prostitution. THerefore, you used a claim that hurts my counter as well as your own.

2) Thats not proof. Show me proof as in quote somehting I have said that lacks common sense.

It doesnt hurt my argument, prostitution will be legal.
dont know what the last sentence is about.
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Postby Great Azarath » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:37 am

Dilange wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:I dont consider it to be a loop hole. Explain further because as your current statement says, it isn't very much like a loop hole


The WA can pass your proposal but member states can regulate prostitution to make it impossible for prostitution to make revenue.

Itsa loophole.

That can be done for ANY resolution. I doubt someone would......
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Dilange
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Postby Dilange » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:44 am

Great Azarath wrote:
Dilange wrote:
1) You said because it is illegal it doesnt help the economy. WHich a lot of countries can say about prostitution. THerefore, you used a claim that hurts my counter as well as your own.

2) Thats not proof. Show me proof as in quote somehting I have said that lacks common sense.

It doesnt hurt my argument, prostitution will be legal.
dont know what the last sentence is about.


1) :palm: oh my god. WHy dont we legalize bodysnatching? We can use that argument as well.

2) SHOW PROOF THAT MANY ARGUMENTS ARE WRONG!

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Speculine
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Postby Speculine » Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:42 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Dilange wrote:
The WA can pass your proposal but member states can regulate prostitution to make it impossible for prostitution to make revenue.

Itsa loophole.

That can be done for ANY resolution. I doubt someone would......


Prostitution comes with a 200% income tax rate. There. All legal under your proposal. Both myself and another ambassador here have explained how we can loophole your proposition into nonexistence. Why would you think we would not do this?

Dear Azarath...Where to start? Your simply stating that something is not proven, not accepted, or lacking in judgement is not very wise of you. In almost every instance the vast majority of this body has countered your nonsense with logical and intelligent arguments. Much of the opposition to you has come directly with proof backing their statements, which you then disagree with for outlandish, childish, or simply stupid reasons.

Your proposal is not wanted here. Those against outnumber those for. What are you not understanding about this?

OOC: A moderator has said at least three times that you should drop this. You really should just listen to him and let it go. Your arguments are rarely based on any fact (at least any fact that you have presented), your behavior has been childish at best, and your resolution is so easily loopholed around that it's laughable. If you want to actually debate your poorly written draft then please stop yelling at people, saying their valid and backed up points are invalid, and that you doubt people would loophole around it when several have stated that they would.
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:20 pm

OOC: if you're talking about Flibbelites, i think all his posts have been IC.
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Postby Great Azarath » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:29 pm

Dilange wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:I put it in caps so you can realize I put it in the quote and not under. smart one.
Proper sentence structure? You were able to read it weren't you....
Creditability? How so? please explain?


You havent proved your argument that the WA should legalize this.

I really disagree.
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Speculine
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Postby Speculine » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:32 pm

Mahaj wrote:OOC: if you're talking about Flibbelites, i think all his posts have been IC.


OOC: I know. I meant that he's respected enough to have gained moderator status and understands that this proposal is going nowhere fast.
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Postby Great Azarath » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:47 pm

Speculine wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:That can be done for ANY resolution. I doubt someone would......


Prostitution comes with a 200% income tax rate. There. All legal under your proposal. Both myself and another ambassador here have explained how we can loophole your proposition into nonexistence. Why would you think we would not do this?

Dear Azarath...Where to start? Your simply stating that something is not proven, not accepted, or lacking in judgement is not very wise of you. In almost every instance the vast majority of this body has countered your nonsense with logical and intelligent arguments. Much of the opposition to you has come directly with proof backing their statements, which you then disagree with for outlandish, childish, or simply stupid reasons.

Your proposal is not wanted here. Those against outnumber those for. What are you not understanding about this?

OOC: A moderator has said at least three times that you should drop this. You really should just listen to him and let it go. Your arguments are rarely based on any fact (at least any fact that you have presented), your behavior has been childish at best, and your resolution is so easily loopholed around that it's laughable. If you want to actually debate your poorly written draft then please stop yelling at people, saying their valid and backed up points are invalid, and that you doubt people would loophole around it when several have stated that they would.

Look, don't give me that crap about imposing extra protocol. Many other resolutions say this and passed, so back off. Proof!?! When was I showed proof that actually meant something? Dilange showed me something and I countered it very well. His link even had things that supported prostitution. This counters I have been receiving were outlandish and irrelevant for the most part. For example, you would ignore a claim for trafficking. Really? The only proof I saw was from Dilange, so you saying almost everything came with proof is B. S. I disagreed for reasons that many other people also agreed with. How exactly is that outlandish, childish or stupid? If you payed attention, you would see that the people who are for have been increasing at a faster rate than the people against, and don't forget the people who stopped posting before I even put the poll up. I couldn't care less what one moderator said. And as far as I'm concerned, he stated it was well written and had no reason to reach the quorum this time. Most of the argument I got from you and the other sheep barely had fact to them, so drop it. I've been childish? Far as I am concerned people have constantly been insulting me, so don't give me that crap. The loophole you guys have pointed out have been fixed and the ones you point out now do not make sense. As stated already it is not poorly written. Yelled at someone? First of all, I am writing. Its impossible to yell, but if you are referring to the caps I stated why it was in caps. Stop being so ignorant and inform your self before you post such a long pathetic paragraph....
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Mahaj
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:48 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Dilange wrote:
You havent proved your argument that the WA should legalize this.

I really disagree.

I don't. You haven't told us why we shouldn't just leave this issue alone.
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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Postby Great Azarath » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:49 pm

Dilange wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:First thing, first. What is your first sentence about? Second sentence, what are you talking about>
Lack common sense, well the stuff your saying its like, dont you see? That doesnt make sense. Obviously it would help the economy, its illegal.....thats what I mean. I know i didnt explain it well but its my best.


1) You said because it is illegal it doesnt help the economy. WHich a lot of countries can say about prostitution. THerefore, you used a claim that hurts my counter as well as your own.

2) Thats not proof. Show me proof as in quote somehting I have said that lacks common sense.

If it is illegal it will not help the economy...this resolution legalizes it, so it will improve it. Please stop the crazy argument about this.
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Postby Great Azarath » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:50 pm

Mahaj wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:I really disagree.

I don't. You haven't told us why we shouldn't just leave this issue alone.

Yes, I have. Scroll up, click on older pages. Do you just ignore everything I put? Seriously!
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Postby Mahaj » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:50 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Mahaj wrote:I don't. You haven't told us why we shouldn't just leave this issue alone.

Yes, I have. Scroll up, click on older pages. Do you just ignore everything I put? Seriously!

repost it, then.

because previous arguments weren't enough.
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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Postby Great Azarath » Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:06 pm

Mahaj wrote:
Great Azarath wrote:Yes, I have. Scroll up, click on older pages. Do you just ignore everything I put? Seriously!

repost it, then.

because previous arguments weren't enough.

I am not re-posting all my arguments, re- scroll them
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Postby Dizyntk » Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:10 pm

Great Azarath wrote:Look, don't give me that crap about imposing extra protocol. Many other resolutions say this and passed, so back off. Proof!?! When was I showed proof that actually meant something? Dilange showed me something and I countered it very well. His link even had things that supported prostitution. This counters I have been receiving were outlandish and irrelevant for the most part. For example, you would ignore a claim for trafficking. Really? The only proof I saw was from Dilange, so you saying almost everything came with proof is B. S. I disagreed for reasons that many other people also agreed with. How exactly is that outlandish, childish or stupid? If you payed attention, you would see that the people who are for have been increasing at a faster rate than the people against, and don't forget the people who stopped posting before I even put the poll up. I couldn't care less what one moderator said. And as far as I'm concerned, he stated it was well written and had no reason to reach the quorum this time. Most of the argument I got from you and the other sheep barely had fact to them, so drop it. I've been childish? Far as I am concerned people have constantly been insulting me, so don't give me that crap. The loophole you guys have pointed out have been fixed and the ones you point out now do not make sense. As stated already it is not poorly written. Yelled at someone? First of all, I am writing. Its impossible to yell, but if you are referring to the caps I stated why it was in caps. Stop being so ignorant and inform your self before you post such a long pathetic paragraph....

"Perfect example of childish tantrum? Read the above. Full of complaining about imaginary slights, calling Ambassadors "sheep", and denying factual evidence with the excuse of he didn't see it. If anyone has not been paying attention it is you, sir."

OOC: I really cannot believe that I have to explain this to anyone over the age of 6, but when you type in all caps, LIKE THIS, it is assumed you are screaming.
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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:22 pm

Great Azarath wrote:
Dizyntk wrote:
"And all of your responses have lacked credibility, proper sentence structure and a coherent or logical thought process. And screaming only serves to indicate that you are losing this argument rather badly."

I put it in caps so you can realize I put it in the quote and not under. smart one.
Proper sentence structure? You were able to read it weren't you....
Creditability? How so? please explain?


Perhaps you should try the decriminalisation of prostitution?
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