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NSwiki: An Offsite Resource

Postby Quintessence of Dust » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:52 am

(I hope the mods/other users don't mind me starting this thread: I know NSwiki is an unofficial resource, but WikiStates has much less WA material, and now Interwiki links are in place, having two Wikis with split interests is much less of a problem anyway.)

Whether you're new to the game or have been playing for years, it's entirely possibly you've never heard of NSwiki, or have just regarded tales of such as something from the end of rainbow. Well, there it is, and so I'm starting this thread to encourage those active in the WA to use NSwiki as a reference resource, as we no longer have HotRodia's WA sticky.

NSwiki is a NationStates encyclopedia any can edit (so long as your edits aren't vandalism, spam, etc.) That said, it's difficult for other players to write about your nation, so ideally as many players as possible should contribute. NSwiki has a well established section on the WA (and the UN, the former name for the WA) but many articles are terribly out of date. Here are some suggestions of good ways to contribute to NSwiki that will help improve that site, and also prove helpful in terms of WA discusssions and roleplay.

1. Your ambassador

Add your nation's ambassador/foreign secretary/WA officer/whatever to the list of Ambassadors to the WA. If you have thought up a whole character profile for them, you could even create an NSwiki page about them.

2. Your resolution

If you wrote, sponsored, or were particularly involved in a particular resolution, you can probably find your resolution on the absolutely invaluable UN Timeline or WA Timeline. Many of the later UN resolutions, and some WA resolutions, have no pages about them: many more just have a page consisting of the resolution text. This is ok, but a bit useless. Here's a good example of how to add much more information about your resolution; check the blue links on the Timelines for other examples, varying from the informative to the pisspoor.

3. Other people's resolutions

Maybe you didn't write it, but you might particularly remember some WA resolution for its interesting backstory or its fierce debate. If so, by all means add to the History sections of those articles. Don't use them to carry on old debates...but do mention why certain people suggested changes, opposed the resolutions, or ended up voting against them.

4. General articles

There are also a number of general WA articles that need editing. Many were never updated after the UN/WA switch: I made a nice logo for articles needing improving then sat on my hands for 16 months, so do as I say not as I do in this regard. These meta articles could be about proposal categories, theories of international relations, UN/WA agencies, or historic moments. Anyway, plenty of these articles have no "owner", and have stalled because they lack communal input.

Many WA players already use NSwiki, but quite few of the newer crop of active players are represented among the most active editors. Therefore, I thought I would raise NSwiki editing, as it is an easy way to build a comprehensive history of the World Assembly that can both improve current debates and give the opportunity to flesh out your characters and nation.

Edit: "sat on hands"? Whose hands...
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Postby Jey » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:33 pm

Quod, as both a WA player and a member of NSwiki's staff, thanks for this thread. I hope everyone explores NSwiki and takes advantage of all of its resources.
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Postby The Sedge » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:36 pm

This could probably also do with being posted in the Security Council, as I think thats barely got a mention on the NSWiki - it would be good to encourage a few people who are familiar with the SC to contribute.

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:50 pm

Maybe it is worth a strong mention in the new WA reference guide. Until then, perhaps worthy of a sticky.

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Postby Unibot » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:54 pm

Just a curious poster here (I don't know anything about it because I wasn't here for the UNHQ), but I see there is a great listing of offices for the UNHQ - hhmm, so I guess my question is will the WAHQ complex ever be listed?

My 0.02 $ : I'd bet you'd get a lot of new blood migrating to NSwiki if they knew the WAHQ was open calling for office space!

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Postby The Sedge » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:56 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:*snip*


Sorry, I didn't really phrase that correctly. I appreciate that which is there about the SC, but only 1 of the SC resolutions is written about. I didn't mean it as a slight on those who contribute to the WA stuff on NSWiki, I just think it would be good to get some SC people involved too, hence why I think this thread could also do with being posted in that forum. Anyhow, I've had my say, maybe at some point I'll try and contribute to the wiki myself.
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Postby Unibot » Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:57 pm

Sorry, I didn't really phrase that correctly. I appreciate that which is there about the SC, but only 1 of the SC resolutions is written about. I didn't mean it as a slight on those who contribute to the WA stuff on NSWiki, I just think it would be good to get some SC people involved too, hence why I think this thread could aso do with being posted in that forum. Anyhow, I've had my say, maybe at some point I'll try and contribute to it myself.


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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:07 pm

Unibot wrote:My 0.02 $ : I'd bet you'd get a lot of new blood migrating to NSwiki if they knew the WAHQ was open calling for office space!

And my two-cents: encouraging wiki-wank (i.e., imposing RP assumptions on others via the wiki) is bad. That was a problem with the old UNHQ article, and we don't need to repeat old mistakes.
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Postby New Leicestershire » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:11 pm

Unibot wrote:Just a curious poster here (I don't know anything about it because I wasn't here for the UNHQ), but I see there is a great listing of offices for the UNHQ - hhmm, so I guess my question is will the WAHQ complex ever be listed?

My 0.02 $ : I'd bet you'd get a lot of new blood migrating to NSwiki if they knew the WAHQ was open calling for office space!


I've never given a lot of thought to the whole "UN Building gone/new WA Building erected in it's place" thing. I guess I've just always assumed that the buildings are similar and that the office assignments carried over.

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Postby Unibot » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:02 pm

And my two-cents: encouraging wiki-wank (i.e., imposing RP assumptions on others via the wiki) is bad. That was a problem with the old UNHQ article, and we don't need to repeat old mistakes.


Oh, okay. It looked fun though.

I've never given a lot of thought to the whole "UN Building gone/new WA Building erected in it's place" thing. I guess I've just always assumed that the buildings are similar and that the office assignments carried over.


Hhhm... but we have a new council now? Or does the WASC just meet in the lake out back ? :p
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:09 pm

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Postby Unibot » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:10 pm

Well, atleast its probably much drier than a lake. :(

Though I'm surprised the author(s) of that article didn't opt for some aquatic location, I guess they didn't know that the Unibotian Ambassador can't swim very well -- and would likely drown.

Yes, you read that right.

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Postby Murray the Evil Skull » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:14 am

Unibot wrote:Well, atleast its probably much drier than a lake. :(

Though I'm surprised the author(s) of that article didn't opt for some aquatic location, I guess they didn't know that the Unibotian Ambassador can't swim very well -- and would likely drown.

Yes, you read that right.


The only aquatic location available is the Vastia Memorial reflecting pool, and we like to keep that clear for Defenestrations, Mortal!
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Postby Progressive Union » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:02 am

Thanks for this post

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Postby Stash Kroh » Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:27 am

Creepy Talking Skull dude wrote:The only aquatic location available is the Vastia Memorial reflecting pool, and we like to keep that clear for Defenestrations, Mortal!


Hhmm.. If my memory serves me correct, one Unibotian ambassador, Eduard Heir, was defenestrated into it - as an attempt to extinguish his flaming body . But also, the other ambassadors just felt like doing it. :p
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Postby Inflatable Gandalfs » Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:34 am

Bumped, as this is an important offsite resource for WA members.
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Postby Cookesland » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:05 am

New Leicestershire wrote:
Unibot wrote:Just a curious poster here (I don't know anything about it because I wasn't here for the UNHQ), but I see there is a great listing of offices for the UNHQ - hhmm, so I guess my question is will the WAHQ complex ever be listed?

My 0.02 $ : I'd bet you'd get a lot of new blood migrating to NSwiki if they knew the WAHQ was open calling for office space!


I've never given a lot of thought to the whole "UN Building gone/new WA Building erected in it's place" thing. I guess I've just always assumed that the buildings are similar and that the office assignments carried over.


The WAHQ has been built?

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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:17 pm

Somehow the idiots keep landing safely in the Vastivan Memorial Reflecting Pool when we hurl them out the window, so presumably that part's been rebuilt. Or was it one of the parts that survived the fire?
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Postby Yelda » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:38 pm

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Somehow the idiots keep landing safely in the Vastivan Memorial Reflecting Pool when we hurl them out the window, so presumably that part's been rebuilt. Or was it one of the parts that survived the fire?


I've always assumed that the new building was built on the site of the old NSUN Building and that the grounds are the same. We never really sat down and RPed the destruction of the old building and the construction of the new one though, so it's anybody's guess where either of them are actually located. Someone else's theory would be just as valid as mine. For my purposes though it's a new building on the old site until there is a consensus that it's somewhere else.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:28 am

Speaking of which, we really do need an article about the reflecting pool; it's part of WA history! Also, the NAPA and WAEU resolutions and their respective repeal attempts would be interesting ones to wikify.

And bump.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:37 pm

OK, so I got impatient and uploaded by own image/representation of the WAHQ: http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=W ... adquarters

Players may recognize this as an "official portrait" of the WA building as their RP limitations permit.

(In reality it is the Bank of America Tower in New York.)
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