NationStates

Category: Education and Creativity
Area of Effect: Education

The World Assembly,

REALIZING that many nations lack a proper educational system,

NOTING that studies show that people with a good education have higher incomes as adults,

FEARING that nations will be in turmoil in the future without proper education to train people in vocational trades,

Hereby,

DEFINES education as "the knowledge resulting from an educational process" and vocational as "of or relating to training in a skill or trade to be pursued as a career",

ESTABLISHES a committee to set up education programs in member nations that request the assistance of the committee to help nations reach higher educational standards,

URGES member nations to start their own educational programs under the guidance of the educational committee,

CHRISTENS the committee as the World Educational Assesment Committee (WEAC),

MANDATES that all member nations allow the WEAC to teach freely in said nation, as long as the WEAC does not teach material that violates said nation's laws,

DICTATES that the WEAC has the right to decide what it teaches in its programs, providing that it doesn't contradict laws,

CLARIFIES that the WEAC's services are voluntary and provided upon request. A member nation can terminate the services it recieves from the WEAC at any time it chooses.

Totally support this...hey, i just posted an economic democracy act...i would like to get some support for it...would you be interested in reading it...(and if you could defending me against uncalled for attacks).

Read it already and I'd be happy to help.

Thank you...what do you suggest...(im getting attacked by capitalists who thinks it infringes on both socialists and capitalists).

Super Pie Lords wrote:Category: Education and Creativity
Area of Effect: Education

The World Assembly,

REALIZING that many nations lack a proper educational system,

NOTING that studies show that people with a good education have higher incomes as adults,

FEARING that nations will be in turmoil in the future without proper education to train people in vocational trades,

Hereby,

DEFINES education as "the knowledge resulting from an educational process" and vocational as "of or relating to training in a skill or trade to be pursued as a career",

ESTABLISHES a committee to set up education programs in all member nations to help nations reach higher educational standards,

URGES member nations to start their own educational programs under the guidance of the educational committee,

CHRISTENS the committee as the World Educational Assesment Committee (WEAC),

DEMANDS that all member nations allow the WEAC to teach freely in said nation, as long as the WEAC does not teach material that violates said nation's laws.

Y must we micromanage education?!

Just get out of the WA if you are going to have this attitude about everything including my proposal...

The Left-Libertarian Hippies wrote:Just get out of the WA if you are going to have this attitude about everything including my proposal...

OOC: Ok you cant tell anyone to leave the Wa just because the disagree.

Its called I disagree with his proposal sir.

Illegal for duplication. Check the passed Resolutions before posting please?

Separatist Peoples wrote:Illegal for duplication. Check the passed Resolutions before posting please?

GENERAL ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION # 80 - A Promotion of Basic Education provides funding to nations who want to start their own education programs. My Educational Equality Program mandates that nations must provide education programs for their people. My proposal doesn't contradict or copy A Promotion of Basic Education.

EDIT:
I added a section in the drafted proposal to clarify that the WEAC must still comply with Resolution # 80

Super Pie Lords wrote:

Separatist Peoples wrote:Illegal for duplication. Check the passed Resolutions before posting please?

GENERAL ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION # 80 - A Promotion of Basic Education provides funding to nations who want to start their own education programs. My Educational Equality Program mandates that nations must provide education programs for their people. My proposal doesn't contradict or copy A Promotion of Basic Education.

EDIT:
I added a section in the drafted proposal to clarify that the WEAC must still comply with Resolution # 80

House of Cards.

Super Pie Lords wrote:

Separatist Peoples wrote:Illegal for duplication. Check the passed Resolutions before posting please?

GENERAL ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION # 80 - A Promotion of Basic Education provides funding to nations who want to start their own education programs. My Educational Equality Program mandates that nations must provide education programs for their people. My proposal doesn't contradict or copy A Promotion of Basic Education.

First operative clause.....DECLARES all citizens have the right to be educated.

Second, you created a house of cards.

Dilange wrote:

Super Pie Lords wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION # 80 - A Promotion of Basic Education provides funding to nations who want to start their own education programs. My Educational Equality Program mandates that nations must provide education programs for their people. My proposal doesn't contradict or copy A Promotion of Basic Education.

First operative clause.....DECLARES all citizens have the right to be educated.

Second, you created a house of cards.

****, fogot about that rule.....

Super Pie Lords wrote:Category: Education and Creativity
Area of Effect: Education

The World Assembly,

REALIZING that many nations lack a proper educational system,

NOTING that studies show that people with a good education have higher incomes as adults,

FEARING that nations will be in turmoil in the future without proper education to train people in vocational trades,

Hereby,

DEFINES education as "the knowledge resulting from an educational process" and vocational as "of or relating to training in a skill or trade to be pursued as a career",

ESTABLISHES a committee to set up education programs in all member nations to help nations reach higher educational standards,

URGES member nations to start their own educational programs under the guidance of the educational committee,

CHRISTENS the committee as the World Educational Assesment Committee (WEAC),

MANDATES that all member nations allow the WEAC to teach freely in said nation, as long as the WEAC does not teach material that violates said nation's laws.

It still has similarities to resolution #80.

And why must we micromanage education?

Super Pie Lords wrote:

Dilange wrote:
First operative clause.....DECLARES all citizens have the right to be educated.

Second, you created a house of cards.

****, fogot about that rule.....

You could change it to "All prior legislation regarding education." to remove that, but your first clause still makes this illegal for duplication.

And why do we feel this is needed?

It's not really that stupid, it's just I don't see a need for it.

Why are you seeking to effectively destroy service-oriented economies?

Education equality? I don't see anything about equality, here. For a second, I thought somebody was going to close the hole left from that horrible education resolution and actually repair the latent xenophobia by granting the right to education to all persons.

Glen-Rhodes wrote:Education equality? I don't see anything about equality, here. For a second, I thought somebody was going to close the hole left from that horrible education resolution and actually repair the latent xenophobia by granting the right to education to all persons.

That isn't covered already?? Why not?!?

Separatist Peoples wrote:

Glen-Rhodes wrote:Education equality? I don't see anything about equality, here. For a second, I thought somebody was going to close the hole left from that horrible education resolution and actually repair the latent xenophobia by granting the right to education to all persons.

That isn't covered already?? Why not?!?

Mod ruling: Unless they explicitly say so, resolutions do not cover illegal immigrants.

Darenjo wrote:

Separatist Peoples wrote:
That isn't covered already?? Why not?!?

Mod ruling: Unless they explicitly say so, resolutions do not cover illegal immigrants.

Oh. Well, why should they have the right to education if they're illegal? I certainly hope that is the only instance where the right to education is not guaranteed.

We are concerned that the last two clauses directly contradict each other.

Vocatus has a strictly defined educational curriculum. Assuming we allowed an entity not directly controlled by the government to teach, under Vocatian law such an entity would have to follow the aforementioned curriculum precisely. This would clearly interfere with its ability to decide what it taught.

This is a problem.

Basically the WEAC gets to come into our nations and teach what they damn well please? I can imagine this has some issues, especially in nations that restrict information. Turning the WEAC into an advisory committee instead would probably improve the resolution a bit. Otherwise, its honestly a micromanaging nightmare...

Darenjo wrote:

Separatist Peoples wrote:
That isn't covered already?? Why not?!?

Mod ruling: Unless they explicitly say so, resolutions do not cover illegal immigrants.

I don't know where that ruling is, but Unibot consciously used 'citizen' when writing A Promotion of Basic Education in order to exclude non-citizen immigrants from having a right to education.

Separatist Peoples wrote:Well, why should they have the right to education if they're illegal?

Because education isn't defined by arbitrary and imaginary nation-state borders. People need an education in order to live above poverty. Education is necessary to further world development. Xenophobic policies do nothing but deny the most vulnerable of people vital skills and knowledge. In fact, denying them an education probably leads to them not being able to pass a citizenship test anyways.

We do not see a need for the WA to micromanage local school boards with some one-size-fits-all scheme.

The Left-Libertarian Hippies wrote:Just get out of the WA if you are going to have this attitude about everything including my proposal...

Not gonna happen. You may want to tone down the rhetoric a notch or seven.

Glen-Rhodes wrote:

Darenjo wrote:
Mod ruling: Unless they explicitly say so, resolutions do not cover illegal immigrants.

I don't know where that ruling is, but Unibot consciously used 'citizen' when writing A Promotion of Basic Education in order to exclude non-citizen immigrants from having a right to education.

Separatist Peoples wrote:Well, why should they have the right to education if they're illegal?

Because education isn't defined by arbitrary and imaginary nation-state borders. People need an education in order to live above poverty. Education is necessary to further world development. Xenophobic policies do nothing but deny the most vulnerable of people vital skills and knowledge. In fact, denying them an education probably leads to them not being able to pass a citizenship test anyways.

You have a viable point, but I will certainly not be using tax dollars to fund illegal immigrant education when they won't even follow the laws of my nation involving immigration. By the very nature of their status they have violated our laws. There should be no reasonable expectation that we will do anything beyond escort them back across the border, least of all accept them into our school systems.