[DRAFT] Educational Equality Program

[Grays Harbor]

Mod ruling: Unless they explicitly say so, resolutions do not cover illegal immigrants.

I don't know where that ruling is, but Unibot consciously used 'citizen' when writing A Promotion of Basic Education in order to exclude non-citizen immigrants from having a right to education.

Well, why should they have the right to education if they're illegal?

Because education isn't defined by arbitrary and imaginary nation-state borders. People need an education in order to live above poverty. Education is necessary to further world development. Xenophobic policies do nothing but deny the most vulnerable of people vital skills and knowledge. In fact, denying them an education probably leads to them not being able to pass a citizenship test anyways.

There is nothing "xenophobic" about insisting that people actually follow a nations laws. It is no different than requiring people to follow traffic laws, or laws against thievery, or any other laws. "Illegal" is "illegal", and we are at a loss as to which part of that you fail to comprehend.

[Glen-Rhodes]

There is nothing "xenophobic" about insisting that people actually follow a nations laws. It is no different than requiring people to follow traffic laws, or laws against thievery, or any other laws. "Illegal" is "illegal", and we are at a loss as to which part of that you fail to comprehend.

The part where immigrants are the most vulnerable people in the world and the World Assembly consciously told them that they don't have any rights. That part. Any moral and compassionate nation would educate all people, regardless of their status. A Promotion of Basic Education and comments like yours are a product of viewing immigrants as less than human, less than a real person. That is xenophobic.

Even the US allows 'illegal immigrants' an access to public education.

[Separatist Peoples]

There is nothing "xenophobic" about insisting that people actually follow a nations laws. It is no different than requiring people to follow traffic laws, or laws against thievery, or any other laws. "Illegal" is "illegal", and we are at a loss as to which part of that you fail to comprehend.

The part where immigrants are the most vulnerable people in the world and the World Assembly consciously told them that they don't have any rights. That part. Any moral and compassionate nation would educate all people, regardless of their status. A Promotion of Basic Education and comments like yours are a product of viewing immigrants as less than human, less than a real person. That is xenophobic.

Even the US allows 'illegal immigrants' an access to public education.

They are in the nation illegally. As per the laws of the CDSP, they are criminals, not entitled to any rights but that of food, shelter, water, and basic medical attention, and that only upon incarceration. They are not citizens and do not afford the same rights as citizens have.

[Morlago]

Category: Education and Creativity
Area of Effect: Education

The World Assembly,

REALIZING that many nations lack a proper educational system,

NOTING that studies show that people with a good education have higher incomes as adults,

FEARING that nations will be in turmoil in the future without proper education to train people in vocational trades,

Okay...

Hereby,

DEFINES education as "the knowledge resulting from an educational process" and vocational as "of or relating to training in a skill or trade to be pursued as a career",

The definition of education sounds weird because you use educational in the definition itself, but that's just me.

ESTABLISHES a committee to set up education programs in all member nations to help nations reach higher educational standards,

Okay...

URGES member nations to start their own educational programs under the guidance of the educational committee,

This seems weak, as you have given so many benefits of education and the negative consequences that could happen from the lack of it, and yet you only urge nations to set up their own educational programs.

CHRISTENS the committee as the World Educational Assesment Committee (WEAC),

This can be combined with the 'establishment' clause.

MANDATES that all member nations allow the WEAC to teach freely in said nation, as long as the WEAC does not teach material that violates said nation's laws,

Okay, now this is a big loophole. Nations can change their laws easily, for example, mandating that WEAC people can only teach certain subjects, like PE or free study lessons, in schools, meaning that it doesn't provide much help to the improvement of educational standards, while still being legal and complying with the requirements given here. Plus, this is not going to get much support from many nations as this violates national sovereignty. You are demanding that these people suddenly can just barge into the classroom and eject the teachers.

DICTATES that the WEAC has the right to decide what it teaches in its programs.

Now this is a bit contradictory. I suppose that you mean the committee can decide on the content of the educational programs without interference from the government, as long as it complies with the law, but with the proper wording (to me at least), I don't know which clause has priority and that this may be able to supersede the previous.

Overall, we believe that this is micromanaging and is not an essential topic that needs to regulated and debated on the international level. OPPOSED.

[Cerberion]

Honorable members.

We already have absolute equality in our education system in Cerberion. All education is the direct responsibility of the parents who are foolish enough to have children and the curriculum is determined by each individual family.

There are broad guidelines laid down by the Church but it is essentially the parent's responsibility to turn out well educated members of society. It is in fact a criminal offence for a parent to fail to correctly educate their child so our literacy rates are quite adequate.

College education is considered a luxury as it is not required to secure an average income position in Cerberion. Therefor all further education has a standard price and it is entirely up to the students to determine if they can afford to pay for it.

Our final word is on education for illegal immigrants. We teach all immigrants the phrase "Get out of Cerberion" and politely show them the border. This is a more moderate stance than we have previously operated where illegally entering the borders of Cerberion was a capital offence.

The Holy Cermon T. Dawg
Voice of the House of Cerberion
Secundus of the 24th Day Dawgists

[The Left-Libertarian Hippies]

With improvement yours could work...it's too vague (even thought I like the idea) and the use of the word educational in a definition of education is a little odd...

[Vocatus]

There is nothing "xenophobic" about insisting that people actually follow a nations laws. It is no different than requiring people to follow traffic laws, or laws against thievery, or any other laws. "Illegal" is "illegal", and we are at a loss as to which part of that you fail to comprehend.

The part where immigrants are the most vulnerable people in the world and the World Assembly consciously told them that they don't have any rights. That part. Any moral and compassionate nation would educate all people, regardless of their status. A Promotion of Basic Education and comments like yours are a product of viewing immigrants as less than human, less than a real person. That is xenophobic.

Even the US allows 'illegal immigrants' an access to public education.

With due respect, it would be impossible for a student to get into our school system without revealing themselves to be an illegal immigrant. If they were found to be an illegal immigrant, they would be deported, not educated.

Not that we have strict immigration standards, mind you, but it's the principle of the thing.

[Grays Harbor]

REALIZING that many nations lack a proper educational system,

really? If they "lack a proper education system, then it is because they are already in violation of Resolution 48 and Resolution 80

NOTING that studies show that people with a good education have higher incomes as adults,

and studies have also shown most water to be wet when in a liquid state.

FEARING that nations will be in turmoil in the future without proper education to train people in vocational trades,

Unsubstantiated touchy-feely nonsense. Yes, education is important, but scaremongering as part of a proposal?

ESTABLISHES a committee to set up education programs in all member nations to help nations reach higher educational standards,

Yay. Micromanagement of what should be up to school boards.

URGES member nations to start their own educational programs under the guidance of the educational committee,

We do. They are called "school boards", "schools" and "universities". Why do you asume that without the benevolent micromanagement of the WA we are all helplessly wandering about in confusion?

CHRISTENS the committee as the World Educational Assesment Committee (WEAC),

MANDATES that all member nations allow the WEAC to teach freely in said nation, as long as the WEAC does not teach material that violates said nation's laws,

DICTATES that the WEAC has the right to decide what it teaches in its programs.

Not a chance. We have specific teacher certification procedures for our teachers. We have education systems which manage this. Why is the WA anointed as the sole arbiter of what is taught?
This is also contradictory. First you state that this useless committee must abide by a nations laws, then go on to dictate that they have the "right" to decide what they without any outside guidance or interference.

School curriculum is best left to local schools. There is already sufficient oversight by the WA, oversight which is not intrusive one-size-fits-all micromanagement.

[Sionis Prioratus]

Assesment Committee

I am puzzled to no end as to what this means... I mean, it is a proposal on Education, right?

Shhhhh! It's precisely because it is a proposal on Education that it has spelling errors! The Rules! Read the Rules!

Oh... Okay. Never mind.

[Super Pie Lords]

I appreciate the constructive critisism provided and I've made some changes, most notably that I've made WEAC's services voluntary and provided upon request from a nation, so nations with an existing education program that they are comfortable with would not have to use WEAC's services.

[Separatist Peoples]

I appreciate the constructive critisism provided and I've made some changes, most notably that I've made WEAC's services voluntary and provided upon request from a nation, so nations with an existing education program that they are comfortable with would not have to use WEAC's services.

If it is voluntary, the proposal is illegal. Optionality clause.

[Moronist Decisions]

We believe this is duplication of A Promotion of Basic Education. No.

Joe Smyslow
Charges d'Affaires ad Interim and Counselor