NATION

PASSWORD

[DRAFT] Human Supremacy Act

Where WA members debate how to improve the world, one resolution at a time.
User avatar
Starkana
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 115
Founded: Jun 03, 2011
Ex-Nation

[DRAFT] Human Supremacy Act

Postby Starkana » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:05 am

In order to be more specific about legislation, I propose that the Human Supremacy Act be proposed and voted on with due diligence.

This proposal would be legal, right?


Human Supremacy Act


The only life that shall be deemed intelligent are Homo sapiens, or Humans. No other species found in any Member Nation shall be considered intellectually better than, or equal to Humans.

All members of the World Assembly shall be required to be Humans.

Humans are supreme in the World and all legislation passed by this Assembly shall be written on behalf of Humans.

In an effort to define all previous and future legislation, the following definitions shall be binding on all resolutions:

a) “People”, “Individuals”, “Adults”, “Minors” shall only refer to the Human species.
b) “Society”, “Nations”, “Civilizations”, “Countries”, “Regions” shall only refer to the collection of Humans and Human-founded empires.

User avatar
Bears Armed
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 21281
Founded: Jun 01, 2006
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:08 am

Illegal, for either Game Mechanics or Meta-Gaming... and for explicitly limiting future legislation, and probably for trying to amend passed legislation, as well.
Have I said "Grossly offensive" yet?
Last edited by Bears Armed on Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:09 am, edited 1 time in total.
The Confrederated Clans (and other Confrederated Bodys) of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
The IDU's WA Drafting Room is open to help you.
Author of issues #429, 712, 729, 934, 1120, 1152, 1474, 1521.

User avatar
Grays Harbor
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18566
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:12 am

Pure bollocks. WA mandated racism? Not bloody likely.
Everything you know about me is wrong. Or a rumor. Something like that.

Not Ta'veren

User avatar
Starkana
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 115
Founded: Jun 03, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Starkana » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:15 am

I don't think it is illegal because of that. It simply enforces a specific meaning behind said words, that when they are said in legislation, they shall refer to humans. which the passing of the legislation at all would enforce that. Hmm.

And I'm just saying I don't want to live in a world that thinks dinosaurs are equal to humans. Maybe I'd like to clearly show that when anyone proposes legislation it is designed for Humans.

It's not racism, to say humans are better than cats...? It's simply fact.

User avatar
New Hayesalia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 7454
Founded: Jul 21, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby New Hayesalia » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:15 am

The Greater Island Kingdom is disgusted. Almost 7 billion of our civilians are sentient animals, and it is the Kingdom's right to recognise them.

User avatar
Ovisterra
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16017
Founded: Jul 17, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Ovisterra » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:16 am

Starkana wrote:I don't think it is illegal because of that. It simply enforces a specific meaning behind said words, that when they are said in legislation, they shall refer to humans. which the passing of the legislation at all would enforce that. Hmm.

And I'm just saying I don't want to live in a world that thinks dinosaurs are equal to humans. Maybe I'd like to clearly show that when anyone proposes legislation it is designed for Humans.

It's not racism, to say humans are better than cats...? It's simply fact.


My nation ain't human. You wanna fight about it?

Seriously though. Just because we're slightly fluffier than you doesn't make us inferior.
Removing the text from people's sigs doesn't make it any less true. I stand with Yalta.

User avatar
Ovisterra
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16017
Founded: Jul 17, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Ovisterra » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:17 am

Starkana wrote:In order to be more specific about legislation, I propose that the Human Supremacy Act be proposed and voted on with due diligence.

This proposal would be legal, right?


Human Supremacy Act


The only life that shall be deemed intelligent are Homo sapiens, or Humans. No other species found in any Member Nation shall be considered intellectually better than, or equal to Humans.

All members of the World Assembly shall be required to be Humans.

Humans are supreme in the World and all legislation passed by this Assembly shall be written on behalf of Humans.

In an effort to define all previous and future legislation, the following definitions shall be binding on all resolutions:

a) “People”, “Individuals”, “Adults”, “Minors” shall only refer to the Human species.
b) “Society”, “Nations”, “Civilizations”, “Countries”, “Regions” shall only refer to the collection of Humans and Human-founded empires.


Oh and that is illegal. You can't kick out certain nations.
Removing the text from people's sigs doesn't make it any less true. I stand with Yalta.

User avatar
Samozaryadnyastan
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19987
Founded: Mar 08, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:18 am

Some people play nations as furries and scalies, so you get dragon populations, cat-people, dog-people and shiz. There's also at least one zombie nation I've seen, and I've heard of a nation that seems to RP at mutants.
So this would physically restrict some nations and label them as 'subhuman' and 'inferior'.

Now, what happened the last time that outcome was written into a nation's lawbooks?
Sapphire's WA Regional Delegate.
Call me Para.
In IC, I am to be referred to as The People's Republic of Samozniy Russia
Malgrave wrote:You are secretly Vladimir Putin using this forum to promote Russian weapons and tracking down and killing those who oppose you.
^ trufax
Samozniy foreign industry will one day return...
I unfortunately don't RP.
Puppets: The Federal Republic of the Samozniy Space Corps (PMT) and The Indomitable Orthodox Empire of Imperializt Russia (PT).
Take the Furry Test today!

User avatar
Grays Harbor
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18566
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:20 am

A couple WA rules for proposals to perhaps ponder

· Grossly Offensive
If you want to execute left-handed men named "Earl" in your country, that's fine. Don't go yammering about it in a Proposal. Yes, this includes screwing with a 'majority' group. Killing all whites is just as bad as killing all jews. Or blacks. Or poor people. Things such as eliminating "all rights for $group", forced deportation of said group and the like fall under this too.

· Bloody Stupid
Every now and then a Proposal crops up that, for lack of a more tactful description, is stupid. This is clearly a judgment call, but if you're going to mandate that all cars be pink, you're gonna have a dead proposal on your hands. This includes things that are unworthy of WA consideration (such as mandating allowances for children who eat their vegetables).
Everything you know about me is wrong. Or a rumor. Something like that.

Not Ta'veren

User avatar
Starkana
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 115
Founded: Jun 03, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Starkana » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:22 am

If the last three lines are taken out, the post is completely and unquestionably legal to propose. It is relevant, and we can be sure that all users are Humans. It's guaranteed. None of you are cats. You guys are all humans.

User avatar
Chinese Regions
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16326
Founded: Apr 24, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Chinese Regions » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:24 am

I see Nations States as many universes and alternate time line, for example my nation is the successor of RL China whereas another Nation could say there are the successor a paradox. And it doesn't have to be today, one nation could have Humans extinct and Dinosaurs survive and still be in the WA with a nation that had the opposite because it was THEIR nation's time line, THEIR Universe.
Humans are superior in some person's universe and Dinosaurs may be superior in another Persons universe. And what you said about cats, if they speak English, what is the problem?
Fan of Transformers?|Fan of Star Trek?|你会说中文吗?
Geopolitics: Internationalist, Pan-Asian, Pan-African, Pan-Arab, Pan-Slavic, Eurofederalist,
  • For the promotion of closer ties between Europe and Russia but without Dugin's anti-intellectual quackery.
  • Against NATO, the Anglo-American "special relationship", Israel and Wahhabism.

Sociopolitics: Pro-Intellectual, Pro-Science, Secular, Strictly Anti-Theocractic, for the liberation of PoCs in Western Hemisphere without the hegemony of white liberals
Economics: Indifferent

User avatar
Ovisterra
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16017
Founded: Jul 17, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Ovisterra » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:25 am


Supremacy Act


The only life that shall be deemed intelligent are Homo sapiens plus some others. A couple of other species found in any Member Nation shall be considered intellectually better than, or equal to Humans.

All members of the World Assembly shall be required to be capable of thought.

No one race is supreme in the World and all legislation passed by this Assembly shall be written on behalf of sapient life.

In an effort to define all previous and future legislation, the following definitions shall be binding on all resolutions:

a) “People”, “Individuals”, “Adults”, “Minors” shall refer to the Human species, and some others.
b) “Society”, “Nations”, “Civilizations”, “Countries”, “Regions” shall only refer to groups of sentient beings.


Made legal.
Removing the text from people's sigs doesn't make it any less true. I stand with Yalta.

User avatar
Ovisterra
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16017
Founded: Jul 17, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Ovisterra » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:26 am

Starkana wrote:If the last three lines are taken out, the post is completely and unquestionably legal to propose. It is relevant, and we can be sure that all users are Humans. It's guaranteed. None of you are cats. You guys are all humans.


But we're not referring to users, now are we? We are referring to the RP nations. You cannot guarantee that they are all human.
Removing the text from people's sigs doesn't make it any less true. I stand with Yalta.

User avatar
The Floor Kippers
Post Czar
 
Posts: 37624
Founded: Feb 12, 2010
Democratic Socialists

Postby The Floor Kippers » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:28 am

Starkana wrote:If the last three lines are taken out, the post is completely and unquestionably legal to propose. It is relevant, and we can be sure that all users are Humans. It's guaranteed. None of you are cats. You guys are all humans.

OOC: In RL all users are Human, in RP A representative can be of any Species, My WA Rep is a Draco Sapien
Co-Founder of The Realm of Unrestricted Science.
“The shortest unit of time in the multiverse is the New York Second, defined as the period of time between the traffic lights turning green and the cab behind you honking.”
"Never discuss religion, politics, or toast"
Great Nepal wrote:
The Floor Kippers wrote:Britain has a stronger claim than Argentina does.

That doesn't say much...
Martian alien slugs who have never heard of earth have stronger claim than Argentina.

User avatar
Starkana
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 115
Founded: Jun 03, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Starkana » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:29 am

And maybe my goal is to get 50% +1 of the General Assembly to agree with me, and not you :) then when I write an Age of Consent law at 18 y.o., then it would make sense.

User avatar
Legionium
Attaché
 
Posts: 79
Founded: Feb 27, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Legionium » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:30 am

Even if this were legal and actually made it to any real voting, it would be rejected by 7.000 votes.

This is just inciting discrimination towards non-human nations. I've seen some hugely powerful nations where humans aren't the dominant kind... We can't force them, IC-wise, to recognize the supremacy of a race that, to them, is a minority, right?

User avatar
The Floor Kippers
Post Czar
 
Posts: 37624
Founded: Feb 12, 2010
Democratic Socialists

Postby The Floor Kippers » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:31 am

Starkana wrote:And maybe my goal is to get 50% +1 of the General Assembly to agree with me, and not you :) then when I write an Age of Consent law at 18 y.o., then it would make sense.

Fat Chance of that Happening Pal, there may be some Nutballs in the WA but not that many. Its not even a legal Proposal.
Its this stuff that Gives Humanity a bad name.
Co-Founder of The Realm of Unrestricted Science.
“The shortest unit of time in the multiverse is the New York Second, defined as the period of time between the traffic lights turning green and the cab behind you honking.”
"Never discuss religion, politics, or toast"
Great Nepal wrote:
The Floor Kippers wrote:Britain has a stronger claim than Argentina does.

That doesn't say much...
Martian alien slugs who have never heard of earth have stronger claim than Argentina.

User avatar
Samozaryadnyastan
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19987
Founded: Mar 08, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:32 am

Legionium wrote:Even if this were legal and actually made it to any real voting, it would be rejected by 7.000 votes.

This is just inciting discrimination towards non-human nations. I've seen some hugely powerful nations where humans aren't the dominant kind... We can't force them, IC-wise, to recognize the supremacy of a race that, to them, is a minority, right?

Well, it worked for South Africa and Iraq.
Sapphire's WA Regional Delegate.
Call me Para.
In IC, I am to be referred to as The People's Republic of Samozniy Russia
Malgrave wrote:You are secretly Vladimir Putin using this forum to promote Russian weapons and tracking down and killing those who oppose you.
^ trufax
Samozniy foreign industry will one day return...
I unfortunately don't RP.
Puppets: The Federal Republic of the Samozniy Space Corps (PMT) and The Indomitable Orthodox Empire of Imperializt Russia (PT).
Take the Furry Test today!

User avatar
Chinese Regions
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16326
Founded: Apr 24, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Chinese Regions » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:33 am

Starkana wrote:And maybe my goal is to get 50% +1 of the General Assembly to agree with me, and not you :) then when I write an Age of Consent law at 18 y.o., then it would make sense.



Back to the subject, I think we should ban nations that commit Genocide towards other sentient(To WA standards) species.
Fan of Transformers?|Fan of Star Trek?|你会说中文吗?
Geopolitics: Internationalist, Pan-Asian, Pan-African, Pan-Arab, Pan-Slavic, Eurofederalist,
  • For the promotion of closer ties between Europe and Russia but without Dugin's anti-intellectual quackery.
  • Against NATO, the Anglo-American "special relationship", Israel and Wahhabism.

Sociopolitics: Pro-Intellectual, Pro-Science, Secular, Strictly Anti-Theocractic, for the liberation of PoCs in Western Hemisphere without the hegemony of white liberals
Economics: Indifferent

User avatar
Globexanter
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6351
Founded: Aug 17, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Globexanter » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:34 am

Pure racism at it's best, isn't this against the W.A. Regulations?

User avatar
Ovisterra
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16017
Founded: Jul 17, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Ovisterra » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:34 am

Globexanter wrote:Pure racism at it's best, isn't this against the W.A. Regulations?


Pretty much all of them.
Removing the text from people's sigs doesn't make it any less true. I stand with Yalta.

User avatar
Grays Harbor
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18566
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:40 am

Our final word on this bollocks.

Image
Everything you know about me is wrong. Or a rumor. Something like that.

Not Ta'veren

User avatar
Kryozerkia
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 11096
Founded: Antiquity
Ex-Nation

Postby Kryozerkia » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:44 am

It's illegal. Plain and simple, it's illegal. It's also been removed. Don't resubmit it. If you do, I can guarantee ejection from the World Assembly. Why is it illegal? Because you can't force member nations to be human; this would fall under meta-gaming. Further, given the equality language of the majority of the existing resolutions, namely resolution #35, it's clear that the mandate of the WA is to protect all sapient and sentient life and this runs contrary to such resolutions.
Last edited by Kryozerkia on Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:45 am, edited 1 time in total.
Problem to Report?
Game-side: Getting Help
Forum-side: Moderation
Technical issue/suggestion: Technical
A-well-a, don't you know about the bird
♦ Well, everybody knows that the bird is the word ♦
♦ A-well-a, bird, bird, b-bird's the word

Get the cheese to Sickbay

"Ok folks, show's over... Nothing to see here... Show's OH MY GOD! A horrible plane crash! Hey everybody, get a load of this flaming wreckage! Come on, crowd around, crowd around, don't be shy, crowd around!" -- Chief Wiggum

User avatar
Ovisterra
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16017
Founded: Jul 17, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Ovisterra » Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:04 am

Thanks Kryozerkia. As a non-human nation, I was hoping mods would intervene.
Removing the text from people's sigs doesn't make it any less true. I stand with Yalta.

User avatar
Starkana
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 115
Founded: Jun 03, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Starkana » Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:18 am

I say you let whomever the majority of votes wins. The Humans or some weird social project of allowing other races like Dolphins or something.

Next

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General Assembly

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users

Advertisement

Remove ads