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Christianity endorsed in education

Postby Sheltz » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:42 pm

Should Christianity be put into our education?

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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:43 pm

As part of history and religious studies. For public education. But no psychological coercion.
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Postby Vitius » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:46 pm

Of course. Same with other major religions such as Judaism, Islam, etc.

Even if you endorse, dislike, or do not believe in religion, it is absolutely fact that religion has played a pivotal role in history; from the Crusades to the Missionaries to the Black Plague to current nations such as Iran and Israel.

To remove religion from education is to erase thousands upon thousands of years of stories, wars, massacres, and facts from the world's knowledge.

^ However, I only believe that this should be incorporated into history; I will not get started on the science issue.
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Postby Syvorji » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:48 pm

No, because we all know it is responsible for making Americans imperialists, and hell-bent on destroying North Korea, including sanctioning ours. What they don't know is that our nation is so strong we are first world, because Juche really works. Therefore, no matter how many sects of Christians are against the USA, Christianity is the reason why America is imperialist, and shouldn't be endorsed.

The real question is, should Juche be put into America's education?

EDIT: Psst! Wrong forum.
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Postby Licana » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:49 pm

I don't think I would mind some sort of religious studies course, so long as it isn't mandatory, and isn't limited to Christianity (I would like either separate courses for major religions or a single course that covers most of said major religions, although the latter would be less in-depth). However, I would not want the people teaching these classes attempting to actively convert anyone not following the faith being studied. Educational purposes only, I'm fine with. Once it goes beyond that (and I realize that this would probably be a fairly relative line, based on the person viewing it), though, is when I, and I assume a lot of other people, would have a problem with it.

Also, think this would be more suited to General, or F&NI if you are talking about your nation, but not the General Assembly.
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Postby Seperate Vermont » Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:55 pm

As historical contribution? It would be senseless to ignore all the good history the Crusades and Roman Christians caused.

As some sort of cultural-endorsed perversion? No.
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Postby The Holy Twig » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:03 pm

Syvorji wrote:No, because we all know it is responsible for making Americans imperialists, and hell-bent on destroying North Korea, including sanctioning ours. What they don't know is that our nation is so strong we are first world, because Juche really works. Therefore, no matter how many sects of Christians are against the USA, Christianity is the reason why America is imperialist, and shouldn't be endorsed.

The real question is, should Juche be put into America's education?

I love it!



Anyway, being an imperialistic American capitalist pig myself, I agree with the more analytical posts on this thread. Study of religion, all religions, at least from a historical perspective, is vital in understanding why we do what we do. As a de facto amateur historian ( :ugeek: ), there's no way that we could really understand why people did what they did (I.E. divine right of kings, the crusades, and the reason that the pilgrims got onto a boat and sailed until they found a certain rock, etc). If there's no study of Christianity, Judaism, etc. then we can't really have perspective and understanding on what these people were doing in our history.

If we mean, "Should the tenants of Christianity be put into our education", as in "teach the children that Jesus loves them, Jesus was great, and they should accept Jesus as their lord and saviour", then BLOODY NO. That would be absurd, and violate 'freedom of religion', which would also most likely cover freedom of lack of religion, and to teach religious doctrine in schools would ruin our school system even worse than it already is.

I say all of this as a devout atheist. :bow:

And yes, I do believe that we should learn about Juche. We have an "American Juche" of sorts here. We call it the Tea Party.
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Postby Embolalia » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:44 pm

Did I walk into the wrong room by accident? What are you people blathering about? Far as I can tell, this has nothing to do with the World Assembly. Mind taking idle chatter elsewhere; we have business to discuss.

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Postby Monikian WA Mission » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:52 pm

I would oppose any resolution that tried to force Christian education on all WA nations.
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