A Ban on ALL Firearms

[Pax Ordo]

I don't mean to rain on your parade, but its a good thing that civilians have fire arms. In the first place it keeps the government in line. Namely by way of making sure that a totalitarian idiot doesn't get into power and try to commit some genocidal nightmare. In the second place, yes you will have violence. That is why you tighten gun laws. I hate to tell you this, but if you ban them outright those who want them will find them, and those who abide by that fallacy your proposing would be sheep sent to the slaughter. I am not a WA member for this exact reason. I know that the nations of the WA in general have the best of intentions. I just can't honestly foresee my nation or any other that uses common sense to support your bill.

[Mad Sheep Railgun]

This is one of the funniest threads I've seen in a while. Godmodding, threats of war, crayola maps, it's got it all! Bravo!

[Malikov]

I don't mean to rain on your parade, but its a good thing that civilians have fire arms. In the first place it keeps the government in line. Namely by way of making sure that a totalitarian idiot doesn't get into power and try to commit some genocidal nightmare. In the second place, yes you will have violence. That is why you tighten gun laws. I hate to tell you this, but if you ban them outright those who want them will find them, and those who abide by that fallacy your proposing would be sheep sent to the slaughter. I am not a WA member for this exact reason. I know that the nations of the WA in general have the best of intentions. I just can't honestly foresee my nation or any other that uses common sense to support your bill.

I've never heard or seen of something this (the Malkovian ambassador mumbles something that sounds strangley like "idiotic") ever passing quorum, so you should come back to the WA. If thats your only reason for leaving.

[Malikov]

:rofl:

This is one of the funniest threads I've seen in a while. Godmodding, threats of war, crayola maps, it's got it all! Bravo!

Thanks...

[Fexia]

If no one could get a hold of guns, what in the hell would you ever need a gun for in your entire lifetime?

What the hell are hunters suppose to use to kill their prey, Sparky? Spears, clubs, arrows? There are legitimate reasons for civillians to own firearms. Of course if you're a granola munching, bark eating vegan, then I suppose you don't need a gun. However, I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to munch on carrots.

According to my conservative beliefs, gun ownership also protects civillians from government tyrrany, and dictatorship. When the civil popualtion has access to firearms, the government will find it harder to take away freedoms and liberties.

[Tanaara]

The Un Delegate peeks his head out of his un official, as yet still un furnished office 'Crayola maps?" He looks about, always on the lookout for interesting wall displays.

Finds map, looks at it, wads it up and tosses it over his shoulder. "My niece at five does better than that. Oh and Mel baby, my nation is nearly ten billion and is a good friend and regionmate to RREU. Don't talk shit that you can't back up."

[Almajoya]

The Un Delegate peeks his head out of his un official, as yet still un furnished office 'Crayola maps?" He looks about, always on the lookout for interesting wall displays.

Finds map, looks at it, wads it up and tosses it over his shoulder. "My niece at five does better than that. Oh and Mel baby, my nation is nearly ten billion and is a good friend and regionmate to RREU. Don't talk shit that you can't back up."

From the Desk of Her Ladyship the Empress Melisma Ramijozana
To: Meldaria
CC: Tanaara
Re: Previous Comment

"Bam!"

Sincerely,
Melisma Ramijozana
Her Ladyship the Empress of Almajoya

[Seculartopia]

I agree with the people stating about the licenses, it would be more tolerant and do a better job of regulating it.
But still,many nations are conservative and believe that guns are a peoples right, so it would be doubtful for this to pass,edited or unedited,im afraid,just like a bill enabling gun ownsership as a right would probably not pass.

[Kiregpanzer]

Guys, this thread has such unimaginably large quantities of fail that the meter has swung all the way back around to make it one of the most epically winning threads I've seen in this section of the forums.

I salute all of you.

If no one could get a hold of guns, what in the hell would you ever need a gun for in your entire lifetime?

What the hell are hunters suppose to use to kill their prey, Sparky? Spears, clubs, arrows? There are legitimate reasons for civillians to own firearms. Of course if you're a granola munching, bark eating vegan, then I suppose you don't need a gun. However, I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to munch on carrots.

According to my conservative beliefs, gun ownership also protects civillians from government tyrrany, and dictatorship. When the civil popualtion has access to firearms, the government will find it harder to take away freedoms and liberties.

[Linux and the X]

Invalid Arguments:
Hunting-Hunting is illegal in Meldaria just like it should be everywhere.

And you're trying to tell us what invalid arguments are? Why should hunting be illegal everywhere?

Job Losses-Meldaria has a program to offer government positions paying the same as every other job in the country to everyone who is unemployed.(We are communist)

Okay, but there are 49.508 nations in the world, and Meldaria is only one of them.

Corrupt Government-Meldaria would never attack our citizens or take away their civil rights, but the right to BEAR arms is not a civil right it's an atrocity.

Again, what Meldaria does or does not do is not the same as what other countries do or do not do. And, again, you're begging the question. How exactly is the right to bear arms not a civil right? It's right in the name that it's a right! How is it an atrocity?

[Tanaara]

The Un Delegate picks up the map and tosses it in a trash can. "Sorry I didn't mean to litter. However has anyone ever explained to the people of Meldaria what happens when you don't have hunting? The animal population tends to explode out of control, then you have Bambi dieing of starvation, or invading suburban gardens searching for food."

He snorted as he thought of some of the idiots he's seen trying to impress a starving stag that they just wanted be it's 'friends'. Deer were far more dangerous than starry eyed idealist ever dreamed. And if the nation were in more tropical climes?

"Cape Buffalo, thats all I have to say."

[Grays Harbor]

My name is Ambassador Mikhail Vassikin. In order to assassinate me, you would have to get past the coast guards, air force, and Missle Defense systems. I laugh at this threat. Make another threat against Meldaria and we will destroy your nation.

*snip map*

Ambassador, Please stop the pathetic little threats from your pathetic little country.

As His Majesties Representative in the WA it is not my position to engage in measurement contests on whose reproductive organ is larger.

However, suffice to say, your population is about 3/10's of 1% of what ours is, and 3% of The Emmerian Unions. It may behoove you to be a bit more careful who you threaten with war.

It may also interest you that it is not the most successful debate tactic available to declare "vote for this or die", especially considering the miniscule size of your nation.

[Grays Harbor]

(insert quote for Mediran threat here) My name is Ambassador Mikhail Vassikin. In order to assassinate me, you would have to get past the coast guards, air force, and Missle Defense systems. I laugh at this threat. Make another threat against Meldaria and we will destroy your nation. (end of quote)

So a nation with 36 million people with a mitltary of at least 720,000 people(at 2 percent), would destory a nation of 1.199 BILLION people with a standing military(2%) of 23,980,000 people? Nice try. I laugh at you.

Random Gun-toting citizen #666

Bah, Take a look at my region and my allies and then run your mouth.

Go away. Seriously. Just Go away. And all MY allies are over 1 or 2 billion and a few of them have cannabalistic troops, and at least one of them loves to nuke small communist nations like you.

I would second this, however, I should like to add that my nation, and those of my allies are in the 10-14 billion range for population. My nation is in the top 250 Militaries for the entirety NS, and we are not even first in our own region, which, by the way, is about double the size of yours. Our army alone is 5 times the size of your entire nation.

OOC - PS, "acting tough and determined" is one thing. Its part of the game. You are closing in on GodModding, however. You may wish to rethink your tactics.

[Zivenzia]

:rofl:

This is one of the funniest threads I've seen in a while. Godmodding, threats of war, crayola maps, it's got it all! Bravo!

I agree. I give it two snaps up, and a circle!

[Bears Armed]

You misinterpret Police and Military both are HEAVILY armed. I said civilians. Look up the definition of civilian before your open your mouth again.

In many countries, Police are 'civilians'.

[Common Sense America]

Seriously, Meldaria, if I wanted to destroy you then I'd have every one of my citizens jump into their government issued XT3-Sonic Skins (note; the XT3-Sonic Skin is a personal space/atmospheric fighter jet with worm hole capabilites, deflection shields designed to withstand projectile and energy weapons, and every XT3 has the ability to destroy a small moon, due to their incredibly powerful and infinite weapon amunition. Don't even ask us how we do it, we would never reveal our technological secrets with the like of you), and eliminate every member of government within your nation, and your allies nation, with extreme prejeduce. In short... go home before you get yourslef killed.

dude stop god modding a nation with 10 billion might be able to get away with what you just said, but the fact of the matter is that's completely impossible even for a moderately large nation like you. You can't do **** like that so get over it.

It's funny, but i can do that, because the XT3 has already been made, manufactured, and distributed. Size, my not-so-much-of-a-friend, has nothing to do with technologlical advancement.

I love this guy haha

[Grays Harbor]

We cannot believe you went ahead and submitted this.

At least now it can die.

[Malikov]

dude stop god modding a nation with 10 billion might be able to get away with what you just said, but the fact of the matter is that's completely impossible even for a moderately large nation like you. You can't do **** like that so get over it.

It's funny, but i can do that, because the XT3 has already been made, manufactured, and distributed. Size, my not-so-much-of-a-friend, has nothing to do with technologlical advancement.

I love this guy haha

Thank you.

[Chazicaria]

Ban All Firearms

A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.


Category: Gun Control


Decision: Tighten


Proposed by: Meldaria

Description: All firearms must be banned from public possession. It is proven using statistics that nations without the right to bare arms have lower crime rates then nations with the right to bare arms. The Military and Police forces should be allowed to use these weapons of course, but all Firearms should be banned from the possession of civilians. If we allow non-military or police units to own firearms then they will only use them to commit crimes or protect themselves from people with firearms. If we banned all firearms we wouldn't need firearms to protect ourselves from firearms it's common sense. The police forces would have little resistance. They should be banned immediately from all nations.

The WA hereby bans all firearms from civilian possession.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 50 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days, 10 hours


This is the proposal. Please think about it and vote yes. This needs to be done. If the public can purchase firearms from stores, then we're just asking for bank robbers and serial killers. Shut down your black markets. Crack down on it. Inspect imports. Ban firearms for civilians and stop them from acquiring them illegally. We can all admit that firearms are the most dangerous weapons civilians can get their hands on and stopping them from acquiring said firearms would bring down homicides and crime rates immensely.

VOTE YES!

No, Freedom first, BS statistics last.

[Lakhon]

Remember prohibition. People still had alcohol but they were killing each other over it.
It's the nationstates rights to decide the fundamental rights of their people(i.e. their freaking constition) not the World Assembly.

[Malikov]

I wonder when Meldaria is going to post again....

[Carbandia]

Your counteragument to their agrument is horsesh%t. Your counteragrument implies that all nations be like your twisted dumb%ss communist country. Every nationstates should have the rights determine it own form of government. Your sh%theaded crazy kinded are sickening, and I pray to god that you do not haunt the nationstates threads with your dumb#ss propositions. Go f*ck up other threads.

I do belive that is flaming, sir. I'd tone it down before a mod sees it.

[Bergnovinaia]

It's a constitutional right in RL to own firearms. Hence it should be in NS. That's why I submitted my proposal about the right to own firearms.

[Carbandia]

It's a constitutional right in RL to own firearms. Hence it should be in NS. That's why I submitted my proposal about the right to own firearms.

NS does not equal RL. Make your case for your own proposal in it's thread (assuming it has a one) not in this one.

[Bergnovinaia]

I make my pont in my own thread. His last proposal was ejected and if this one reaches the floor (somehow) it will hands down not be voted for (other than by communists).