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Meldaria
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A Ban on ALL Firearms

Postby Meldaria » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:37 am

Ban All Firearms

A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.


Category: Gun Control


Decision: Tighten


Proposed by: Meldaria

Description: All firearms must be banned from public possession. It is proven using statistics that nations without the right to bare arms have lower crime rates then nations with the right to bare arms. The Military and Police forces should be allowed to use these weapons of course, but all Firearms should be banned from the possession of civilians. If we allow non-military or police units to own firearms then they will only use them to commit crimes or protect themselves from people with firearms. If we banned all firearms we wouldn't need firearms to protect ourselves from firearms it's common sense. The police forces would have little resistance. They should be banned immediately from all nations.

The WA hereby bans all firearms from civilian possession.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 50 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days, 10 hours


This is the proposal. Please think about it and vote yes. This needs to be done. If the public can purchase firearms from stores, then we're just asking for bank robbers and serial killers. Shut down your black markets. Crack down on it. Inspect imports. Ban firearms for civilians and stop them from acquiring them illegally. We can all admit that firearms are the most dangerous weapons civilians can get their hands on and stopping them from acquiring said firearms would bring down homicides and crime rates immensely.

VOTE YES!
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Re: A Ban on ALL Firearms

Postby Linux and the X » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:38 am

What of nations with no police force?
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Re: A Ban on ALL Firearms

Postby Meldaria » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:39 am

Linux and the X wrote:What of nations with no police force?


Initiate a REDGUARD act.
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Re: A Ban on ALL Firearms

Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:45 am

Meldaria wrote:
Linux and the X wrote:What of nations with no police force?


Initiate a REDGUARD act.

The World Assembly cannot establish an world army, honoured ambassador. What I would like however, is to introduce gun licensing, not to outlaw gun ownership, but to control weapons from falling into the wrong hands, and seriously, it can be done without a world police force, which is also illegal in WA proposal rules.
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Re: A Ban on ALL Firearms

Postby Meldaria » Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:47 am

If no one could get a hold of guns, what in the hell would you ever need a gun for in your entire lifetime?
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Re: A Ban on ALL Firearms

Postby The Palentine » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:11 am

Meldaria wrote:If no one could get a hold of guns, what in the hell would you ever need a gun for in your entire lifetime?


What the hell are hunters suppose to use to kill their prey, Sparky? Spears, clubs, arrows? There are legitimate reasons for civillians to own firearms. Of course if you're a granola munching, bark eating vegan, then I suppose you don't need a gun. However, I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to munch on carrots.

According to my conservative beliefs, gun ownership also protects civillians from government tyrrany, and dictatorship. When the civil popualtion has access to firearms, the government will find it harder to take away freedoms and liberties.
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Re: A Ban on ALL Firearms

Postby Linux and the X » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:20 am

Meldaria wrote:If no one could get a hold of guns, what in the hell would you ever need a gun for in your entire lifetime?

For one, it's doubtful that guns could be entirely eliminated. However, even if they could be, why are we approaching this from the focus of "needing" guns? If someone wants a gun, they should be permitted to have it.
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Re: A Ban on ALL Firearms

Postby Tanaara » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:52 am

The Un Delegate from the Domination of Tanaara looks at the proposal and falls over laughing. "I may be sleep deprived, having no offive of my own, and there being no room at the inn, but realy, depriving the citizenry of guns? It just allows the goverment to be come a tyrrany that much more quickly and easily. Besides I can kill you just as quickly with a spear, even if I do have to be a bit closer."

He shook his head "Taking guns away doesn't prevent or even lessen crime. That is a false analogy."
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Re: A Ban on ALL Firearms

Postby Carbandia » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:15 pm

We find ourselves in agreement with our esteemed colleague from Tanaara, that is all we have to say on this matter.

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Re: A Ban on ALL Firearms

Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:22 pm

Honoured ambassador, a total ban on firearms is considered to be far too excessive for the Assembly to handle. I could not support such an idea.

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Re: A Ban on ALL Firearms

Postby Grays Harbor » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:41 pm

No.

Just No.


Completely just No.




Absolutely completely just No.
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Re: A Ban on ALL Firearms

Postby CIB EMPIRE » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:43 pm

The Palentine wrote:
Meldaria wrote:If no one could get a hold of guns, what in the hell would you ever need a gun for in your entire lifetime?


What the hell are hunters suppose to use to kill their prey, Sparky? Spears, clubs, arrows? There are legitimate reasons for civillians to own firearms. Of course if you're a granola munching, bark eating vegan, then I suppose you don't need a gun. However, I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to munch on carrots.

According to my conservative beliefs, gun ownership also protects civillians from government tyrrany, and dictatorship. When the civil popualtion has access to firearms, the government will find it harder to take away freedoms and liberties.


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Postby CIB EMPIRE » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:47 pm

How do we protect ourselves from corrupt cops, military? How do we hunt if jobs fail? How do we protect ourselves from criminals that keep their guns. You people are sooo dumb, you think that just because you ban guns that everyone is just going to say OK and give them up. Criminals and patriots will always have them.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:49 pm

CIB EMPIRE wrote:How do we protect ourselves from corrupt cops, military? How do we hunt if jobs fail? How do we protect ourselves from criminals that keep their guns. You people are sooo dumb, you think that just because you ban guns that everyone is just going to say OK and give them up. Criminals and patriots will always have them.


OOC: So patriots are criminals? :blink:
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Postby Grays Harbor » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:50 pm

CIB EMPIRE wrote:How do we protect ourselves from corrupt cops, military? How do we hunt if jobs fail? How do we protect ourselves from criminals that keep their guns. You people are sooo dumb, you think that just because you ban guns that everyone is just going to say OK and give them up. Criminals and patriots will always have them.


It is a malady known as "LaLaLanditis", and there is no known cure. :p
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Postby CIB EMPIRE » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:50 pm

"OOC: So patriots are criminals? "

They will be considerd that way if guns are banned. btw dont be smart ass you know what im getting at.
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Postby CIB EMPIRE » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:51 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:How do we protect ourselves from corrupt cops, military? How do we hunt if jobs fail? How do we protect ourselves from criminals that keep their guns. You people are sooo dumb, you think that just because you ban guns that everyone is just going to say OK and give them up. Criminals and patriots will always have them.


It is a malady known as "LaLaLanditis", and there is no known cure. :p


:rofl:
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:52 pm

CIB EMPIRE wrote:They will be considerd that way if guns are banned. btw dont be smart ass you know what im getting at.


The Grand Puerto Rican Palti of Buffett and Colbert is rather concerned with how the esteemed delegate of CIB EMPIRE is behaving. It's not proper World Assembly conduct, in our opinion.

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Postby CIB EMPIRE » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:53 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:They will be considerd that way if guns are banned. btw dont be smart ass you know what im getting at.


The Grand Puerto Rican Palti of Buffett and Colbert is rather concerned with how the esteemed delegate of CIB EMPIRE is behaving. It's not proper World Assembly conduct, in our opinion.

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oh no i said ass! how dare i!
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Postby Grays Harbor » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:59 pm

CIB EMPIRE wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:
CIB EMPIRE wrote:They will be considerd that way if guns are banned. btw dont be smart ass you know what im getting at.


The Grand Puerto Rican Palti of Buffett and Colbert is rather concerned with how the esteemed delegate of CIB EMPIRE is behaving. It's not proper World Assembly conduct, in our opinion.

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oh no i said ass! how dare i!


While We agree with your position on not banning guns, We would like to make it clear that The Grand Puerto Rican Palti of Buffett and Colbert is an Ally of, and under the protection of, the Harberian Empire. We do not take kindly to insults given to our allies. :eyebrow:
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Postby CIB EMPIRE » Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:02 pm

sorry bout that
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Re: A Ban on ALL Firearms

Postby Common Sense America » Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:06 pm

I vote NO!
This is a disgrace toward civil liberties and freedoms!
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Re: A Ban on ALL Firearms

Postby Bergnovinaia » Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:45 pm

So you want to ban patriotism and hunting?
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Postby CIB EMPIRE » Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:09 pm

no one wants that, those who do are :palm:
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Re: A Ban on ALL Firearms

Postby Kandarin » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:50 pm

It is proven using statistics that nations without the right to bare arms have lower crime rates then nations with the right to bare arms.


Leaving aside the spelling issue (it's 'bear'...baring arms is something totally different), this looks like a reference to real-world studies that take place in real-world countries that don't exist in the fantastic world in which GA resolutions occur. I may be wrong, of course, but if this is in fact a reference to some sort of NS RP event it would probably be a good idea to mention it.
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