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Meldaria
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No More Guns

Postby Meldaria » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:43 pm

No More Guns

A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.


Category: Gun Control


Decision: Tighten


Proposed by:Meldaria

Description: The United Kingdom has gone a long time without the right to bare arms and their crime rate happens to be lower than the United States. The 2nd Amendment was only passed in the US Constitution due to Native American attacks. The US used to be dangerous due to wild animals and Native American tribes. If people weren't allowed to have guns, we wouldn't need guns to defend ourselves from people with guns, it's common sense. Please vote yes to stop all the violence.

The World Assembly hereby bans all firearms from possession of the public.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 50 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days, 1 hour

Please vote yes for the sake of the future.
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Bergnovinaia
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Re: No More Guns

Postby Bergnovinaia » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:49 pm

In NS the UK and US do not exist. Besides being extremly illegal and it doesn't say anything other than basically you should approve this, it wouldn't get any support becuase your asking guns to be banned entirely. How would there be wars? And the constitution doesn't exist either.
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Re: No More Guns

Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:10 pm

Meldaria wrote:No More Guns

A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.


Category: Gun Control


Decision: Tighten


Proposed by:Meldaria

Description: The United Kingdom has gone a long time without the right to bare arms and their crime rate happens to be lower than the United States. The 2nd Amendment was only passed in the US Constitution due to Native American attacks. The US used to be dangerous due to wild animals and Native American tribes. If people weren't allowed to have guns, we wouldn't need guns to defend ourselves from people with guns, it's common sense. Please vote yes to stop all the violence.

The World Assembly hereby bans all firearms from possession of the public.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 50 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days, 1 hour

Please vote yes for the sake of the future.


short sleeve shirts are illegal in the UK?

and your logic is flawed. badly. banning guns will stop violence? not likely.
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Re: No More Guns

Postby Malikov » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:11 pm

OOC: While the information presented is actually true it incorporates real world events, and nations, thus making it extremely illegal. Besides, I don't think that many nations would support this. Because these kinds of resolutions only affect member nations, nad we're only a small part of NS, many citizens could still have firearms, and we would be sitting ducks.
In short, don't try to restrict the right to protect ourselves from the non-WA wackos.
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Re: No More Guns

Postby Arturickia » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:16 pm

Arturickia, although a non-WA state, would like to encourage the WA members to adopt a stance of total disarmament in the private and public sectors. After all, if you outlaw private ownership of guns, then gun violence will disappear. If you don't have gun violence, then the police certainly don't need guns. And, since you only get attacked if you really deserve it, you don't need a military.

Arturickia will follow suit as soon as everyone else has disarmed.

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Re: No More Guns

Postby Bergnovinaia » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:23 pm

Arturickia wrote:Arturickia, although a non-WA state, would like to encourage the WA members to adopt a stance of total disarmament in the private and public sectors. After all, if you outlaw private ownership of guns, then gun violence will disappear. If you don't have gun violence, then the police certainly don't need guns. And, since you only get attacked if you really deserve it, you don't need a military.

Arturickia will follow suit as soon as everyone else has disarmed.


First of all, the bold is garbage. Second, people would then result to other weapons (i.e.knives). You can't ban knives since they're an essential utensil. (Ha Ha it rhymes.)
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Re: No More Guns

Postby Malikov » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:31 pm

Arturickia wrote:Arturickia, although a non-WA state, would like to encourage the WA members to adopt a stance of total disarmament in the private and public sectors. After all, if you outlaw private ownership of guns, then gun violence will disappear. If you don't have gun violence, then the police certainly don't need guns. And, since you only get attacked if you really deserve it, you don't need a military.

Arturickia will follow suit as soon as everyone else has disarmed.


What if someone really deserves it... :meh:
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Re: No More Guns

Postby Lunax » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:01 pm

Interasting Flag To Be An Antiviolence Nation

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Re: No More Guns

Postby Typhoonen II » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:12 pm

Arturickia wrote:After all, if you outlaw private ownership of guns, then gun violence will disappear.


How do you stop illegal gun trade?

Even if banned, people will get something if they really want it.

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Re: No More Guns

Postby CIB EMPIRE » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:46 pm

the guns in the us are to protect the people from corrupt government. if you ban guns, the only people that will have them will be the criminals!(and people like me)
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Re: No More Guns

Postby Bergnovinaia » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:47 pm

The US doesn't exist in NS for the 1,000,000,000,000,000th time. I want a mod if reading this to lock this forum.
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Re: No More Guns

Postby CIB EMPIRE » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:16 pm

doesnt matter if the us exists "here" it exists in real life and this is a serious problem with people trying to take away our guns
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Re: No More Guns

Postby Lizardiar » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:26 pm

CIB EMPIRE wrote:doesnt matter if the us exists "here" it exists in real life and this is a serious problem woth people trying to take away our guns


Please stop fighting for our cause....you're not making us look good with your poorly written arguments. :palm:
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Re: No More Guns

Postby CIB EMPIRE » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:39 pm

Fk you
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Re: No More Guns

Postby Hirota » Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:11 am

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Re: No More Guns

Postby Ardchoille » Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:35 am

CIB Empire wrote:Fk you.


The people who are telling you what's wrong with your proposal are trying to help you. If you submit an illegal proposal (especially after you've been told it's illegal) you may be warned or (If you do it enough) have your nation kicked out of the WA. If you intend to continue playing the GA, you will have to learn to take advice graciously.

Your proposal is illegal because it mentions real world nations, a real-world document and real-world events. Read the Proposals sticky written by The Most Glorious Hack. The proposal is metagaming. DO NOT submit it as-is. It will be killed in the queue long before it reaches quorum. It will not come to discussion. It will not, in this wording, ever be At Vote. Listen to people's suggestions for imrovement and make the changes they urge on you.

In this forum, you are assumed to be in character (IC). So what you have presented us with is an ambassador making odd references to something that doesn't exist, and apparently trying to carry on a serious argument about ownership of guns in some fictional state. It's like having someone stand up in the real-world UN and seriously argue that the Twilight vampires are a threat to world peace.

Go back and try again.
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Re: No More Guns

Postby The Most Glorious Hack » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:07 am

It wasn't his Proposal. He's angrily arguing against it. Or something like that. Regardless, this thing isn't even in the same area code as a legal Proposal, and the flaming is... utterly unnecessary.

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