Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:can't have any gore in any media after all.
“depictions of mutilated bodies or sadistic torture”
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by Alkzine » Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:54 am
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:can't have any gore in any media after all.
by Zetaopalatopia » Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:36 pm
Alkzine wrote:Zetaopalatopia wrote:Would religious texts fall under violent content? The Bible alone has depictions of sacrifice and stoning as well as depictions on the intentional drowning of large populations which could be read as supporting genocide. How about war history resources?
Fixed. Thanks for the feedback!
by Alkzine » Mon Feb 03, 2025 1:03 pm
Zetaopalatopia wrote:Alkzine wrote:Fixed. Thanks for the feedback!
I see you only added an exception for historical records for education and not an exception for religious texts. Can I take this to mean the bill would support censorship of religious texts that include depictions of violent acts such as the mention of stoning or sacrifice? Most religious texts also include depictions of fetishistic acts, the primary example being incest so I could see religious texts being banned under the restriction of sexual content as well.
by New Westmore » Mon Feb 03, 2025 1:09 pm
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by Alkzine » Mon Feb 03, 2025 1:15 pm
New Westmore wrote:I think it is blatantly clear that this proposal is a non-starter.
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by Alkzine » Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:45 am
Elyreia wrote:Such a disingenuous poll, by a disingenuous delegate. At least they're consistent.
Point to Point data encryption does not anonymize data
A VPN will bypass your attempt at security every time.
by Alkzine » Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:51 am
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by New Westmore » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:29 am
Kasdados wrote:Humble opinion: Minors shouldn’t have pornographic material. I’m terrified that I even have to say this, but the poll is always right.
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by Cessarea » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:44 am
Alkzine wrote:VPN issue addressed. Is it fixed?
by Alkzine » Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:57 am
New Westmore wrote:Kasdados wrote:Humble opinion: Minors shouldn’t have pornographic material. I’m terrified that I even have to say this, but the poll is always right.
They shouldn't, but they do. Regardless, I still believe no amount of legislating is ever going to properly stop minors from accessing things they shouldnt be seeing - this is a matter of family at best, and the obligation to prevent children from accessing porn/etc. should lie on both the parents and the children themselves.
by Alkzine » Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:06 am
Cessarea wrote:Alkzine wrote:VPN issue addressed. Is it fixed?
You can't juzt say "compliance will be ensured by the WACC" when it's so obvious that enforcing compliance is exceesingly dofficult, if not impossible. You have to at least attempt to describe how that committee is supposed to enforce that mandate.
Otherwise you could write a resolution banning all bad things and say that the WACC can enforce it!
by New Westmore » Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:08 am
Alkzine wrote:New Westmore wrote:They shouldn't, but they do. Regardless, I still believe no amount of legislating is ever going to properly stop minors from accessing things they shouldnt be seeing - this is a matter of family at best, and the obligation to prevent children from accessing porn/etc. should lie on both the parents and the children themselves.
It’s not right for multimillion-dollar corporations to make this content accessible to minors and then claim it the child’s responsibility to avoid it. They don’t have a fully developed prefrontal cortex and this is the same with knives, vapes, alcohol etc; we don’t just say “it's the parents/kids responsiblity”
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by Cessarea » Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:09 am
Alkzine wrote:Cessarea wrote:You can't juzt say "compliance will be ensured by the WACC" when it's so obvious that enforcing compliance is exceesingly dofficult, if not impossible. You have to at least attempt to describe how that committee is supposed to enforce that mandate.
Otherwise you could write a resolution banning all bad things and say that the WACC can enforce it!
“Virtual private network (VPN) services have a legal responsibility to ensure their services are not used by children to bypass these content safeguards, by requiring accurate verification of client age if sexually explicit or shockingly violent content is being attempted to be accessed. Compliance will be ensured through the World Assembly Compliance Commission through periodic audits of VPN providers; noncompliance will result in escalating punishment action from the World Assembly, including fines and enforced closure.”
How is that ?
by Alkzine » Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:12 am
New Westmore wrote:Alkzine wrote:It’s not right for multimillion-dollar corporations to make this content accessible to minors and then claim it the child’s responsibility to avoid it. They don’t have a fully developed prefrontal cortex and this is the same with knives, vapes, alcohol etc; we don’t just say “it's the parents/kids responsiblity”
This is the thing: it's not made to be accessible to minors on purpose. It is made to be accessible... to adults. We literally cannot enforce anything on the internet because everyone is anonymous and everyone can see what they want. You cannot stop a zeitgeist as immense as the Internet from doing what it does best, you can only hope to encourage healthy opinions at the very most.
by Alkzine » Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:21 am
Cessarea wrote:Alkzine wrote:“Virtual private network (VPN) services have a legal responsibility to ensure their services are not used by children to bypass these content safeguards, by requiring accurate verification of client age if sexually explicit or shockingly violent content is being attempted to be accessed. Compliance will be ensured through the World Assembly Compliance Commission through periodic audits of VPN providers; noncompliance will result in escalating punishment action from the World Assembly, including fines and enforced closure.”
How is that ?
It'd be wholly ineffective, but that is marginally better.
by Zetaopalatopia » Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:26 am
by Alkzine » Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:34 am
Zetaopalatopia wrote:VPNs aside. It will be impossible to regulate or censor deep/dark websites. With how tech literate people are at younger ages it would be a simple matter for them to simply bypass any and all attempts to restrict content by using what is effectively the lawless majority of uncataloged sites.
Due to the risk that this proposal will encourage youth to seek the content they wish to see from less safe areas of the internet I can't in good faith support it.
by Cessarea » Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:13 am
Alkzine wrote:Zetaopalatopia wrote:VPNs aside. It will be impossible to regulate or censor deep/dark websites. With how tech literate people are at younger ages it would be a simple matter for them to simply bypass any and all attempts to restrict content by using what is effectively the lawless majority of uncataloged sites.
Due to the risk that this proposal will encourage youth to seek the content they wish to see from less safe areas of the internet I can't in good faith support it.
Sorry, but young people can purchase drugs through the dark web—that doesn’t mean we enable them to do so through “legitimate” businesses too
by Alkzine » Tue Feb 04, 2025 1:11 pm
Cessarea wrote:-snip-.
by Cessarea » Tue Feb 04, 2025 1:17 pm
Alkzine wrote:Cessarea wrote:-snip-.
This perennial invocation of "parental responsibility" presumes every household is equally equipped to erect impenetrable digital fortresses around their children. This argument, while rhetorically elegant, fails to account for the profound disparities in technological literacy, economic stability, and sheer available time among parents. It assumes an idealized domestic sphere where vigilance is a universal luxury rather than a privilege. In reality, many families—particularly those navigating financial precarity or working multiple jobs—simply do not have the means to provide constant oversight. To suggest that this challenge can be solved solely through parental intervention implies a certain privileged ignorance as to the extent to which such vigilance is, for many, a practical impossibility.
by Alkzine » Tue Feb 04, 2025 1:28 pm
Cessarea wrote:Notice as well that you've not once addressed how ineffective this measure was, and instead chose which argument to attack.
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