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Yelda
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Yelda » Tue Sep 10, 2024 1:28 pm

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Kinqueven
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Postby Kinqueven » Wed Sep 11, 2024 1:00 pm

Also, I would love to noiminate Jedinsto
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ARIsyan-
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Postby ARIsyan- » Wed Sep 11, 2024 1:02 pm

I proudly nominate Bisofeyr.
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Jedinsto
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Postby Jedinsto » Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:29 pm

Kinqueven wrote:Also, I would love to noiminate Jedinsto

I appreciate the nomination but cannot accept. I’d be potentially open to it in the future but I don’t feel I have enough experience or time to do a good job at the moment. So thank you, but I decline.

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Elyreia
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Founded: Jun 29, 2018
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Postby Elyreia » Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:12 pm

Jedinsto wrote:
Kinqueven wrote:Also, I would love to noiminate Jedinsto

I appreciate the nomination but cannot accept. I’d be potentially open to it in the future but I don’t feel I have enough experience or time to do a good job at the moment. So thank you, but I decline.


You have for more experience than myself at it. I accepted my own nomination if at all else to let the GenSec have a pool of candidates rather than have one win by default.
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The Overmind
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Postby The Overmind » Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:20 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:This isn't a personal call out or anything - but I really don't think two users who got involved in the GA in the last year should be the frontrunners for the open GenSec. If that really is the case, then there should be serious reconsideration of the 6 member rule.

What do community members think of this? The main objection internally to moving back to five has been the belief that GenSec with five members is less productive and less active. In light of this year's heavy case load – with 10 cases, where only one actively involved all six members, – does the community believe this to be true?

Edit. Some may see this – "where only one actively involved all six members" – as a bit of a shocking claim. But you can confirm this using https://bit.ly/gensec-catalogue. The statistic is even more pronounced when expanding the window over the last four years back to 2020. That one case where all six members participated (Reducing food contaminants and residues [2024] GAS 1 which ended up being a tie) is the only case in that range. You have to go back to [2019] GAS 2 to find the last instance where all six members participated.

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There have been, in total, 66 GenSec cases of which 11 involved all six members (mostly concentrated in 2016–17).

As you point out, GenSec has been effectively operating as if it has fewer than six members to begin with. Even with an eye to the possibility that GenSec can only be as active as it is, with four or more members voting on most challenges, due to its current size, it does not, in fact, appear to be the case. The ability of GenSec to be as active as it is is not maintained through the swapping in and out of members, but by certain members maintaining an active role in GenSec. Additionally, it has also never made clear sense to me that GenSec should have an even number of members. Given the dearth of candidates who are both available and experienced, with one or two exceptions, I do not see any harm in leaving GenSec as it is and letting the applicant pool grow in preparation for when another member is actually direly needed.
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Second Sovereignty
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Postby Second Sovereignty » Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:32 pm

I was under the impression that the size of GenSec was something that was out of GenSec's hands, but if that isn't the case I would absolutely support a drop down to five members.
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Bisofeyr
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Postby Bisofeyr » Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:12 am

Second Sovereignty wrote:I was under the impression that the size of GenSec was something that was out of GenSec's hands, but if that isn't the case I would absolutely support a drop down to five members.

This sums up my thoughts fairly well, with a slight caveat that the two most recently resolved challenges were resolved with 4 members (Repeal "Concerning Financial Fraud") and 3 members, but with one member explicitly abstaining (Repeal "Volcanic Activity Convention"), meaning that at least one member has also not been present. Only GenSec can accurately comment on this but I could see how one semi-inactive member (even if they still qualify for being on the council in the first place) may necessitate another member.

But I do think an arbitrary minimum of 6 is silly at best and harmful at worst.

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Elyreia
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Postby Elyreia » Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:56 am

I would be in favor of dropping down to 5 as well. Unless current GenSec do not believe they themselves will be active in upcoming months is numbers to postpone challenges to after the holiday season.
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Wallenburg
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Postby Wallenburg » Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:11 pm

As Tin suggested, I very much doubt that GenSec has any say in their size at this time.
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Greater Canterbury
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Postby Greater Canterbury » Mon Sep 16, 2024 9:33 am

I’ll also nominate Tinhampton.
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Postby Syrasia » Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:47 pm

I also nominate Tinhampton
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American Generations
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Postby American Generations » Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:54 pm

I nominate Wallenburg.

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Chipoli
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Founded: Mar 16, 2022
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Postby Chipoli » Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:24 am

I, among many others, would like to voice my support for Haymarket Riot.
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Warzone Codger
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Postby Warzone Codger » Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:14 pm

Nominate Simone, used on the all the legality challenges he does.

Nominate Tin as well
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Greater Canterbury
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Postby Greater Canterbury » Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:49 am

Warzone Codger wrote:Nominate Simone, used on the all the legality challenges he does.

Nominate Tin as well

Guys, do we acknowledge the new nomination?
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Kinqueven
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Founded: Dec 02, 2022
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Postby Kinqueven » Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:26 pm

Is Charlotte Ryberg still active? If so, I nominate her
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Minoa
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Postby Minoa » Thu Sep 26, 2024 11:55 am

Kinqueven wrote:Is Charlotte Ryberg still active? If so, I nominate her

I am around but I am too busy at this time. Sorry.
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Kinqueven
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Postby Kinqueven » Tue Oct 01, 2024 12:08 pm

What about Maowi? I nominate them
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Wallenburg
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Oct 01, 2024 12:40 pm

Kinqueven wrote:What about Maowi? I nominate them

Maowi hasn't posted here in a year and a half. You're obviously free to nominate whomever you wish, but do consider whether you think they would actually be good for the job.
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Simone Republic
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Simone Republic » Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:14 am

Greater Canterbury wrote:
Warzone Codger wrote:Nominate Simone, used on the all the legality challenges he does.

Nominate Tin as well

Guys, do we acknowledge the new nomination?


I have already declined last month.
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Also I actually also declined when this post (the seat Kenmoria vacated) came up back in November 2023.
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Kinqueven
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Postby Kinqueven » Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:08 pm

And also Minskiev for a nomination
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Imperium Anglorum
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:52 pm

*** Public notice ***

We have appointed, in consultation with the moderators, Haymarket Riot to the GA Secretariat. We believe that this appointment, by bringing in an active and knowledgeable player to the Secretariat, will serve the community well. Thank you for your patience in this time-consuming replacement process.

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Haymarket Riot
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Postby Haymarket Riot » Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:55 pm

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Bisofeyr
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Postby Bisofeyr » Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:57 pm

Ahhhhhhh, congratulations Haymarket!!!! Very well deserved.

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