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Grays Harbor
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:44 pm

International Solar Alliance

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental

Industry Affected: All Businesses - Mild

Proposed by: Republic of Rajputana

As the rightful member of the highest and honorable WA General Assembly,and the President of my Nation,Republic of Rajputana,I would like to propose the following resolution before the WA General assembly and honourable WA Delegates keeping in mind the degrading Environment of our Mother Earth.

Formation of International Solar Alliance (ISA)

As we all know,our planet Earth is slowly being emptied out of traditional fuel sources like petrol,diesel and nataural gas I recommend the WA General Assembly and the International body to take up the following measures:

1.To form a new organisation 'International Solar Alliance'(ISA) and encourage all nations to be a part of it.

2.To promote the usage of more and more solar energy into different industries,thus replacing the traditional fuel sources.

3.To liaise with the WA Scientific Programme and coordinate the release of non-classified research and development within the disciplines of Enbironmental Svience Research.

4.To provide financial support to economically weaker nations for setting up Environment Research Labs.

5.To issue an official warning to those nations who are giving a serious damage to the environment.

With the below golden lines I close my proposal and request ever WA member come forward to make earth again,instead of finding life on mars save the life on earth.

ॐ सर्वे भवन्तु सुखिनः
सर्वे सन्तु निरामयाः ।
सर्वे भद्राणि पश्यन्तु
मा कश्चिद्दुःखभाग्भवेत् ।
ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः

May All become Happy,
May All be Free from Illness.
May All See what is Auspicious,
May no one Suffer.
Om Peace, Peace, Peace.


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Essu Beti
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Postby Essu Beti » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:35 pm

Same Sex Civil Union

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Demolay
We, Nation States members of the World Assembly recognizes and believe that every people regardless of their age, color, ethnicity, sexual orientation, status, and gender are "PEOPLE OF SACRED WORTH"
We, believe that this sacredness of us, is what makes us one, and what makes to remained united despite of our differences in view and in opinion.
We, believe that LOVE is unconditional. It is the sacredness of us that force us to love one another and accept one another as humans and as a common people of this world.
We, believe that each of us has a right and has a gift of love that we should sahred with. There is no one must left behind or hinder by it.
Wherefore, by supporting this petition We are adhering ourselves in the highest form of standard that LOVE has no boundaries.


No operative clause, branding, weird blogpost?
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Bears Armed
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:41 am

Essu Beti wrote:
Same Sex Civil Union

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Demolay
We, Nation States members of the World Assembly recognizes and believe that every people regardless of their age, color, ethnicity, sexual orientation, status, and gender are "PEOPLE OF SACRED WORTH"
We, believe that this sacredness of us, is what makes us one, and what makes to remained united despite of our differences in view and in opinion.
We, believe that LOVE is unconditional. It is the sacredness of us that force us to love one another and accept one another as humans and as a common people of this world.
We, believe that each of us has a right and has a gift of love that we should sahred with. There is no one must left behind or hinder by it.
Wherefore, by supporting this petition We are adhering ourselves in the highest form of standard that LOVE has no boundaries.


No operative clause, branding, weird blogpost?

Yep. Also, given existing GA legislation, wouldn't be 'Strong' even if it did have an operative clause.
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Arasi Luvasa
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Postby Arasi Luvasa » Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:36 pm

General Assembly Proposal
ID: juanland_1543358900

Destruir Los Impuestos Internacionales
A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.

Category: Free Trade

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Juanland

destruyendo los impuestos internacionales podriamos bajar los precios de los productos importados aumentando el flujo del dinero

Understandable English, apparently blogging and a lacking an operative clause as well (google translate).

General Assembly Proposal
ID: hatfatica_ricard_1543361883

Right To Vote
A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.

Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Hatfatica Ricard

Ashamed that there are not enough elections in the world.
Believes that elections are key to happiness.
Seeks to find a world with happy citizens.
The WA, therefore, proposes that
1. WAVA (World Assembly Voting Association) will be created and it will:
a. solve any problems with voting in any nation with voting on the problem and
b. makes sure that ALL REGIONS will vote on certain matters in them.
2. That the WA will look for proper voting and hunt scams with voting if they appear.
3. That all WA Delegates will vote on WA matters at the end, when all the regional votes are counted, ensuring that most nations are happy.

Metagaming (mentions delegates and regions), attempts to force actions on players (clause 3), Potentially an ideological ban (anarchy or dictatorship)
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Minoa
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Postby Minoa » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:41 am

Establish a world assembly controlled military force

ID: new_isula_fonte_1543504878
Category: International Security
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: New Isula Fonte

Recognizing, each World Assembly Member has a right to defend their home nation.

Noting, that some are incapable and or violate many humanitarian rights.

Proposing, a bill to the World Assembly, Establishing a Military Force controlled by the Assembly.
The Military Force will be primarily used in defense of a Law-Abiding nation.
World Assembly Members would vote on if an invasion/defense of a nation is necessary.
In peacetime, the force would be used in peace-keeping in potentially dangerous nations.

*A revision of this Bill may be proposed if necessary.

First, it may be trying to change the functionality of the Security Council (such proposals go to Technical).

Second, I don't think you can edit a proposal once submitted.
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Jebslund
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Postby Jebslund » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:59 am

Minoa wrote:
Establish a world assembly controlled military force

ID: new_isula_fonte_1543504878
Category: International Security
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: New Isula Fonte

Recognizing, each World Assembly Member has a right to defend their home nation.

Noting, that some are incapable and or violate many humanitarian rights.

Proposing, a bill to the World Assembly, Establishing a Military Force controlled by the Assembly.
The Military Force will be primarily used in defense of a Law-Abiding nation.
World Assembly Members would vote on if an invasion/defense of a nation is necessary.
In peacetime, the force would be used in peace-keeping in potentially dangerous nations.

*A revision of this Bill may be proposed if necessary.

First, it may be trying to change the functionality of the Security Council (such proposals go to Technical).

Second, I don't think you can edit a proposal once submitted.

Contradicts GA #2

The underlined portion also seems to be more of a reference to the military force, rather than the SC and R/D gameplay.
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Bears Armed
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:06 am

Jebslund wrote:
Minoa wrote:First, it may be trying to change the functionality of the Security Council (such proposals go to Technical).

Second, I don't think you can edit a proposal once submitted.

Contradicts GA #2

The underlined portion also seems to be more of a reference to the military force, rather than the SC and R/D gameplay.


Now:
Bears Armed: Illegal — Contradiction of existing legislation (GA Resolution #2 forbids WA involvement in any military actions); Game Mechanics (there's no way for WA members to vote on deploying those forces); Passed resolutions can not be "revised", only repealed & then replaced, No Operative Clause ("Proposing" and"would" don't DO anything).
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Postby Grays Harbor » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:39 pm

A Cultural Heritage Association

A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.

Category: Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Cultural Heritage

Proposed by: Far Easter Republic

The following proposal will make a system that will:
Give an honor of recognition to nations that have protected and preserved the culture to today.
Help all nations persevere it.
And help empower regions to promote and preserve there nations history

Doesn’t really do anything. But, it does have the traditional misspelling in an educational proposal.
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Arasi Luvasa
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Postby Arasi Luvasa » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:20 am

Doesn't any mention of regions also amount to metagaming?
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Bears Armed
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:12 am

Arasi Luvasa wrote:Doesn't any mention of regions also amount to metagaming?

Unless it's clearly referring to "regions" inside nations, which isn't the case here, yes.
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Our population is approximately 20 million. We do have a national government, although its role is strictly limited. Economy = thriving. Those aren't "biker gangs", they're our traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies'... and are generally respected, not feared.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:49 am

Inter-National Solar Alliance

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental

Industry Affected: Manufacturing

Proposed by: Republic of Rajputana

International Solar Alliance (I.S.A.)

A resolution to promote funding and research of Environmental Sciences and help in setting up a new organisation I.S.A

Coming to know about the horrific truths about the pollution caused by Traditional fuel source,the following resolution is to be executed by honourable WA General Assembly keeping in mind the degrading Environment of our Mother Earth.

Formation of International Solar Alliance (ISA)

As we all know,our planet Earth is slowly being emptied out of traditional fuel sources like petrol,diesel and nataural gas the WA General Assembly and the International body is to takes the following measures:

1.To seek instant remedy and cure for the Global Warming and Environmental problem the WA General Assembly sets up a new organisation 'International Solar Alliance'(ISA) and encourage all member nations to be a part of it.

(a)To promote the usage of more and more solar energy into different industries,thus replacing the traditional fuel sources.

(b)To liaise with the WA Scientific Programme and coordinate the release of non-classified research and development within the disciplines of Enbironmental Science Research.

(c) To provide on request both technical assistance and advisors for developing and building 'Environmental Sciences and Clean Fuel Research' programs within member states by sharing technical, organizational, and administrative data

(d)To issue an official warning to those nations who are giving a serious damage to the environment.

2. Member states must liaise with I.S.A., and parallel national authorities thus providing their contribution in replacing traditional fuel sources with new and renewable energy sources like 'Solar Energy'.

3.The World Assembly allocates annual funds for the promotion of I.S.A.


RL reference in “Earth”. (We all ain’t on one planet, FFS!)
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Bears Armed
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:13 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
Inter-National Solar Alliance

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental

Industry Affected: Manufacturing

Proposed by: Republic of Rajputana

International Solar Alliance (I.S.A.)

A resolution to promote funding and research of Environmental Sciences and help in setting up a new organisation I.S.A

Coming to know about the horrific truths about the pollution caused by Traditional fuel source,the following resolution is to be executed by honourable WA General Assembly keeping in mind the degrading Environment of our Mother Earth.

Formation of International Solar Alliance (ISA)

As we all know,our planet Earth is slowly being emptied out of traditional fuel sources like petrol,diesel and nataural gas the WA General Assembly and the International body is to takes the following measures:

1.To seek instant remedy and cure for the Global Warming and Environmental problem the WA General Assembly sets up a new organisation 'International Solar Alliance'(ISA) and encourage all member nations to be a part of it.

(a)To promote the usage of more and more solar energy into different industries,thus replacing the traditional fuel sources.

(b)To liaise with the WA Scientific Programme and coordinate the release of non-classified research and development within the disciplines of Enbironmental Science Research.

(c) To provide on request both technical assistance and advisors for developing and building 'Environmental Sciences and Clean Fuel Research' programs within member states by sharing technical, organizational, and administrative data

(d)To issue an official warning to those nations who are giving a serious damage to the environment.

2. Member states must liaise with I.S.A., and parallel national authorities thus providing their contribution in replacing traditional fuel sources with new and renewable energy sources like 'Solar Energy'.

3.The World Assembly allocates annual funds for the promotion of I.S.A.


RL reference in “Earth”. (We all ain’t on one planet, FFS!)

Right.
I'm not entirely sure about the Category/AoE, either: After all, all that new 'solar' technology would still need to be manufactured...
The Confederated Clans of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Our population is approximately 20 million. We do have a national government, although its role is strictly limited. Economy = thriving. Those aren't "biker gangs", they're our traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies'... and are generally respected, not feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
The IDU's WA Drafting Room is open to help you.
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Sierra Lyricalia
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:40 am

Committee-only. The only mandate on member states is to "liaise" with the committee and each other. "Thus providing their contribution in replacing..." doesn't seem to mean anything, and the committee's only power over solar heel-draggers is to issue warnings.

Edit: Re: Bears' point about the category - the transition from fuels to solar power will cost enough that I'm inclined to say the AoE is legit.
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:41 am

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:Committee-only. The only mandate on member states is to "liaise" with the committee and each other. "Thus providing their contribution in replacing..." doesn't seem to mean anything, and the committee's only power over solar heel-draggers is to issue warnings.

Edit: Re: Bears' point about the category - the transition from fuels to solar power will cost enough that I'm inclined to say the AoE is legit.

I was thinking that Manufacturing would still have all of that new 'Solar' stuff to manufacture but that, effectively, all industries would have to spend money on adapting... so 'All Businesses: Mild' would be better.
The Confederated Clans of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Our population is approximately 20 million. We do have a national government, although its role is strictly limited. Economy = thriving. Those aren't "biker gangs", they're our traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies'... and are generally respected, not feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
The IDU's WA Drafting Room is open to help you.
Author of issues #429, 712, 729, 934, 1120.

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