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by Tinfect » Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:33 pm
Imperium Central News Network: EMERGENCY ALERT: ALL CITIZENS ARE TO PROCEED TO EVACUATION SITES IMMEDIATELY | EMERGENCY ALERT: ALL FURTHER SUBSPACE SIGNALS AND SYSTEMS ARE TO BE DISABLED IMMEDIATELY | EMERGENCY ALERT: THE FOLLOWING SYSTEMS ARE ACCESS PROHIBITED BY STANDARD/BLACKOUT [Error: Format Unrecognized] | Indomitable Bastard #283
by Araraukar » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:05 am
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by New Waldensia » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:44 pm
Araraukar wrote:OOC: The most current draft needs to be in the first post of this thread, as that's where people will look for it.
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by Aclion » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:25 pm
Tinfect wrote:As an aside, to the delegation of Aclion, the Imperium will note that regardless of the current legal arrangement between the Imperium and the World Assembly, the Imperium is in compliance with applicable World Assembly law, and maintains offices within it. The statements of the Imperium are as legitimate as your own, if not more, given the Imperial history within this assembly. In the future, do not presume that your Government is exempt from simple research."
by Separatist Peoples » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:35 pm
Aclion wrote:Tinfect wrote:As an aside, to the delegation of Aclion, the Imperium will note that regardless of the current legal arrangement between the Imperium and the World Assembly, the Imperium is in compliance with applicable World Assembly law, and maintains offices within it. The statements of the Imperium are as legitimate as your own, if not more, given the Imperial history within this assembly. In the future, do not presume that your Government is exempt from simple research."
If the Imperium wants its position to have any weight they can join the assembly properly, instead of fraudulently acting through a client state. Authorship of unrelated legislation means nothing.
by Aclion » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:41 pm
Separatist Peoples wrote:Aclion wrote:If the Imperium wants its position to have any weight they can join the assembly properly, instead of fraudulently acting through a client state. Authorship of unrelated legislation means nothing.
"The C.D.S.P. is perfectly willing to speak on behalf of the Imperium on this measure, so as to prevent unreasonable attacks against a nation who's contributions to this Assembly well exceed those of their detractors."
by Deropia » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:44 pm
Aclion wrote:Separatist Peoples wrote:"The C.D.S.P. is perfectly willing to speak on behalf of the Imperium on this measure, so as to prevent unreasonable attacks against a nation who's contributions to this Assembly well exceed those of their detractors."
"Unreasonable attacks? The Imperium left this assembly in a huff, but set up a client state so as to continue to cast votes while a nonmember. They're frauds."
Lieutenant-Commander Jason MacAlister Deropian Ambassador to the World Assembly macalister.j@diplomats.com Office 1302, 13th Floor, World Assembly Headquarters | Minister of WA Affairs [TNP] Captain, North Pacific Army Special Forces Former Speaker of the Regional Assembly [TNP] |
by Separatist Peoples » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:45 pm
Aclion wrote:Separatist Peoples wrote:"The C.D.S.P. is perfectly willing to speak on behalf of the Imperium on this measure, so as to prevent unreasonable attacks against a nation who's contributions to this Assembly well exceed those of their detractors."
"Unreasonable attacks? The Imperium left this assembly in a huff, but set up a client state so as to continue to cast votes while a nonmember. They're frauds."
by Aclion » Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:17 pm
Deropia wrote:Aclion wrote:"Unreasonable attacks? The Imperium left this assembly in a huff, but set up a client state so as to continue to cast votes while a nonmember. They're frauds."
"Plenty of nations do that. Ceding part of their territory to create a WA mission is more commonplace than you'd think. Nothing fraudulent there."
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Frauds' who nonetheless are in compliance"
by Separatist Peoples » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:55 pm
Aclion wrote:"Well they're not members, so none of the mandates apply to them. In a creative sense they are complaint regardless of their policies. Regardless the Imperium is under no obligation, so has no more grounds to object then a member that refuses its obligations."
by Tinfect » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:15 pm
Aclion wrote:(I understand the OOC reasoning behind this, given the way much of the game is structured around WA membership. But to do it IC is a dick move, its godmodding)
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by Aclion » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:19 pm
Tinfect wrote:Aclion wrote:(I understand the OOC reasoning behind this, given the way much of the game is structured around WA membership. But to do it IC is a dick move, its godmodding)
OOC:
Why don't you tell that to [nation=]Bears Armed[/nation], which acts through [nation=]Bears Armed Mission[/nation]. Or [url]Araraukar[/url], which, as mentioned in the signature, is not actually part of the WA, but remains rather active in it, and has been for some time.
by Tinfect » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:40 pm
Aclion wrote:OOC: because I don't see them RPing a say in legislation while ICly nonmembers. I've no problem with observer nations giving their opinion ICly or otherwise. Hell both of them are only OOCly commenting on legality. Not comparable.
Imperium Central News Network: EMERGENCY ALERT: ALL CITIZENS ARE TO PROCEED TO EVACUATION SITES IMMEDIATELY | EMERGENCY ALERT: ALL FURTHER SUBSPACE SIGNALS AND SYSTEMS ARE TO BE DISABLED IMMEDIATELY | EMERGENCY ALERT: THE FOLLOWING SYSTEMS ARE ACCESS PROHIBITED BY STANDARD/BLACKOUT [Error: Format Unrecognized] | Indomitable Bastard #283
by Aclion » Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:37 pm
Tinfect wrote:Aclion wrote:OOC: because I don't see them RPing a say in legislation while ICly nonmembers. I've no problem with observer nations giving their opinion ICly or otherwise. Hell both of them are only OOCly commenting on legality. Not comparable.
OOC:
Bears Armed posts in an IC manner rather often, as does Araraukar. That they've not done much of it on this particular draft is irrelevant.
by New Waldensia » Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:24 pm
Army of Freedom medals received:
• N-Day² Medals -- N-Day³ Medals -- N-Day⁴ Medals
• Z-Day6 Medals
by Borovan4 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:08 pm
by Kyoki Chudoku » Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:45 pm
by Araraukar » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:27 am
Aclion wrote:OOC: because I don't see them RPing a say in legislation while ICly nonmembers.
Hell both of them are only OOCly commenting on legality. Not comparable.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Neo Humanity » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:38 am
by Yohannes » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:29 am
It is my pleasure to stand in support of the principles behind the drafting of this Bill. Hereby in representation of the Christian Democratic Executive Council shall I present, that Parliament and the Electoral College have voted FOR the General Assembly Resolution At Vote: Freedom to Seek Care.
Her Excellency Elisa Rue Wake, Emperor’s Counsel
World Assembly Ambassador of Yohannes
by Little Tralfamadore » Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:57 am
by Wallenburg » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:05 am
Little Tralfamadore wrote:How would this effect laws that are designed to protect our citizens - even/especially from their parents?
Should a child have a easily curable disease but the parents believe that only prayer will cure their child. Normally laws would allow the government to step in and treat the child. Does this proposal allow a parent to effectively murder their child by avoiding the requirement to properly treat their child?
If a child or and adult that someone else has medical control over chooses tan experimental method that no competent medical professional believes will work and will cause tremendous agony and harm to the person do we allow it by claiming it may cure the problem?
It is one thing to allow people to choose their own medical care but do we allow others to force their beliefs on their wards?
by Imperial Polk County » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:09 am
Araraukar wrote:Janis leaned back in her chair, lifting her feet onto her desk, and started to peel an orange. "Like the Vitamine said, the proposal bans nations from not letting people to travel if they're too unwell to survive said travel. That puts unfair pressure on whatever commercial transport they may be using, and also seems to contradict the resolution about quarantining sick people during an epidemic. Actually, that might make this whole thing illegal..."
by Montenbourg » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:43 am
"Iustitia et Pacem"
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