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Postby Colmark » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:32 pm

I like the global cricket federation idea. Below are the test match grounds in Colmark:

Harvis Park (Fortnam)- batters paradise, fast outfield, hard wicket. Capacity of 40,000
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The Clearing (Arden)- by far the most picturesque ground, The Clearing has a little for both bat and ball, and is the favourite venue of touring sides. Capacity of 9,000
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Riverside (Four Rivers)- seam bowlers have a ball on this wicket, particularly in overcast conditions. Capacity of 21,000
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Jackson Cricket Ground (Fort Parker)- though the stadium has recently been redeveloped, the dusty, spin friendly track remains the same as ever. Capacity of 34,000
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The Altro Ground (Tuscaloo)- Seam bowlers come here to die. Lots and lots of runs. Capacity of 25,000
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Postby Arcquest » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:10 am

I like TBI's idea, and can wait until the World Cups finish :)
Ill post a roster and other details when this thing finalises :)
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Postby Pawn and King » Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:38 am

I'm continually interested.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:14 am

The Babbage Islands wrote:I'd like to start a conversation about the organisation of the first test cricket series. For the next six weeks my priority here is the World Cup, but I'd like to iron out some things now so we can start soon after WC54 ends.

Here are my thoughts for the first season of the Global Cricket Federation.



1. The season runs eight weeks. Tests are scorinated one day per RL day, Monday through Friday (or Tuesday through Saturday--any preference?).
2. Each nation may have one test scheduled per week. Determination of home ground is up to the nations who agree to play.
3. Nations are strongly encouraged, but not required, to schedule series of two or three tests at the same site on consecutive weeks instead of one-offs.
4. A ranking system (the subject of a separate post) will account for the results of all tests.

5. The World Championship is contested over three weeks after the eight-week season is concluded. A team must have completed at least two series during the season to be eligible. In the first season, the top four teams in the rankings will receive the seeds 1-4. In subsequent seasons the reigning champions will be seeded #1, the top-ranked team other than the champions #2, and teams #3 and #4 are the two next-highest ranked teams who did not play in the previous season's championship.
6. The Page playoff system will be used:
Week 1: Match A--1 v 2; Match B--3 v 4
Week 2: Match C--A loser v B winner
Week 3: Final--A winner v B winner
7. In all World Championship tests the better-seeded team has home ground and will advance in the event of a drawn or tied test. (Alternative: a super-over like Twenty20?)



Comments, anyone? (BTW, the scorinator is progressing nicely.)


All sounds good, except for the highlighted point 7 - which (with wry apologies) sounds like an American's solution to a drawn or tied test (though I very much appreciate that you've done enough research to make the distinction between drawn and tied).

I would suggest using something inherent within the test, such as higher run rate per over, to decide who advances in these cases. Though that specific solution presupposes that the scorinator can calculate run rate (by stating number of overs played) rather than just generating numbers for runs and wickets fallen. Perhaps largest number of runs overall for drawn tests, and run rate per over for the hopefully extremely rare tied tests?

Can the scorinator calculate runs per batsman, and can it distinguish between players with varying batting skills (ie, a top order batting specialist versus a spin bowler batting at eleven)?

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Postby The Babbage Islands » Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:34 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
The Babbage Islands wrote:7. In all World Championship tests the better-seeded team has home ground and will advance in the event of a drawn or tied test. (Alternative: a super-over like Twenty20?)


I would suggest using something inherent within the test, such as higher run rate per over, to decide who advances in these cases. Though that specific solution presupposes that the scorinator can calculate run rate (by stating number of overs played) rather than just generating numbers for runs and wickets fallen. Perhaps largest number of runs overall for drawn tests, and run rate per over for the hopefully extremely rare tied tests?


I expect the final output to be runs, wickets, and overs at the close of each innings and each day. Run rate per over certainly could be used and would be superior.

Can the scorinator calculate runs per batsman, and can it distinguish between players with varying batting skills (ie, a top order batting specialist versus a spin bowler batting at eleven)?


Not yet. Style is currently limited to an overall emphasis on batting or bowling, although this is a prime candidate for eventual upgrade. First I need it all to work. :)
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Postby Genyria » Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:49 am

Nafistan wrote:Im interested, but I have no previous experience with NS sports and how they actually work.

^ This.

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Postby The Babbage Islands » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:53 am

Here's the promised additional post on rankings.



The Global Cricket Federation ranking of nations accounts for all tests played by member nations.

Definitions

One-off test: Any test not part of a series, including all World Championship tests.
Series: Two, three or more consecutive tests between the same parties and played in the same host nation, but excluding World Championship tests.
Match: All tests and all series are considered matches. A one-off test is one match. A two-test series is three matches; a three-test series, four matches.

Nations with no test history begin with a rating of 100.

Rating a series

When rating one nation in a series, if their opponent is rated more than 40 points higher/lower at the start of the series then treat that rating as exactly 40 points higher/lower instead for purposes of this formula.

The rating points earned by one nation in a series equal the opponent's adjusted rating times the number of matches, plus 50 times the number of matches won, minus 50 times the number of matches lost.

Example: Four-test series, A (rated 125) in B (rated 75). A wins tests 1 and 4, B wins test 2, test 3 is drawn.

A treats B as if rated 85, and gets (85*5)+(50*3)-(50*1) = 425+150-50 = 525 rating points.
B treats A as if rated 115, and gets (115*5)+(50*1)-(50*3) = 575+50-150 = 475 rating points.


Updating ratings

Add the rating points for each nation to their previous total.
Add the number of matches played to that previous total.
Divide the new rating points total by the updated number of matches to get an updated rating. Round to the nearest integer, 0,5 to the nearest even integer.

After each season's World Championship tests are rated, reset each nation's rating points to quadruple their current rating and their match total to four. This gradually decays the impact of older performances compared to more recent ones.
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Postby Old Havansk » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:39 am

I think its a great idea.
sign me up. LOL
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Postby Old Havansk » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:44 am

Havansk stadiums it will use

Wellington Road (Shared football)
Haner Stadium (Haner County Criket Club)
Super Stadium ( being built to be finished in late Jan

More r being planned
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Postby Beldonia » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:31 pm

Yo, count me in, dude.

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Postby Megadia » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:31 pm

Megadia would like to announce that they have been offered a 4 match test series against the Socialist States of Owen which they have accepted and is awaiting their confirmation.

Here are the grounds selected by the Cricket Megadia:

Kings Valley Park-7,500 (increased capacity)-Flat wicket, a batsman's paradise!-(All seating is reserved for the Monarchy and members of the government)

MTC MEGAoval-62,500 (increased capacity)-Green, bumpy wicket that favours bowlers

Megatropolis Cricket Ground-40,000 (increased capacity)-dusty wicket that favours spinners.

Crexz Harbour Ground-15,000 (increased capacity)-slow, crumbling wicket that is destined to produce a boring match.

Introducing the Head Coach:

Colin Hucknell-Has just retired because of injury and forced himself into the coaching role as he was unfortunate enough to miss out on Megadia's first test match squad. He is only 28 and was the leading wicket taker in the Megadian National League for 4 seasons at an average of 16.43.

Introducing the Squad:

Opener 1: Niko Vintelic Megadia (LHB, Doesn't Bowl)-First-Class Batting Average: 61.82 First-Class Bowling Average: N/A
Opener 2: Prince Bartholomew Megadia II (RHB, FM)-First Class Batting Average: 64.33 First-Class Bowling Average: 17.91
Top Order 3: Ryan O'Donnelly (LHB, SLA)-First Class Batting Average: 48.69 First-Class Bowling Average: 41.89
Top Order 4: Ralf Muggle (RHB, OS)-First Class Batting Average: 42.77 First-Class Bowling Average: 78.44
Middle Order 5: Hans Beister Megadia (RHB, M)-First Class Batting Average: 55.86 First-Class Bowling Average: 27.57
Middle Order 6: Niall Megadia (LHB, Doesn't Bowl)-First Class Batting Average: 38.61 First-Class Bowling Average: N/A
Middle Order 7: Lionel Ambrose (RHB, Wicket-Keeper)-First Class Batting Average: 50.65 First-Class Bowling Average: N/A
Lower Order 8: Ross Megadia (RHB, OS)-First Class Batting Average: 27.12 First-Class Bowling Average: 23.42
Lower Order 9: Miguel Silva (RHB, MF)-First Class Batting Average: 24.40 First-Class Bowling Average: 27.50
Tail Ender 10: Shivnarine Jadeja (LHB, F)-First Class Batting Average: 12.87 First-Class Bowling Average: 19.88
Tail Ender 11: Malcolm Baker (RHB, LS)-First Class Batting Average: 10.02 First-Class Bowling Average: 17.64

Top Order: Mohammed Sakhir Megadia (LHB, Doesn't Bowl)-First Class Batting Average: 26.34 First Class Bowling Average: N/A
Tail Ender: Dean Megadia (RHB, F)-First Class Batting Average: 7.21 First Class Bowling Average: 41.67

Player Profiles Coming Soon!!!
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Postby Socialist States Owen » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:42 pm

Series confirmed. Squad roster will be typed up today or tomorrow.
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Postby Megadia » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:45 pm

Socialist States Owen wrote:Series confirmed. Squad roster will be typed up today or tomorrow.


Thank you for your confirmation. I will have my squad of 13 up soon. You may select more as you are the touring country.

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Postby Civil Citizenry » Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:04 pm

TBI's scorinator isn't even ready yet, and he said he doesn't plan to start anything until after the World Cup (~6 weeks from now). There's no need to start setting up tests already.
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Postby Megadia » Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:07 pm

Civil Citizenry wrote:TBI's scorinator isn't even ready yet, and he said he doesn't plan to start anything until after the World Cup (~6 weeks from now). There's no need to start setting up tests already.


I know. I just thought I'd start setting-up test matches for my schedule.

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Postby Genyria » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:06 pm

TBI: Would you be willing to release your cricket scorinator for use by others? I'd like to do a domestic First-Class league (we could have a newswire thread), but wouldn't know where to begin making my own scorinator for so complex a sport as this.
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Postby Krytenia » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:23 pm

Genyria wrote:TBI: Would you be willing to release your cricket scorinator for use by others? I'd like to do a domestic First-Class league (we could have a newswire thread), but wouldn't know where to begin making my own scorinator for so complex a sport as this.

I'd be interested in doing this too; we may be in luck on that one, if TBI's previous scorinators are anything to go by.

And, as one of only two extant nations to have previously played a Test match (Starblaydia being the other, way back in the early days of Jolt), I request that Krytenia's "Cyan Caps" are the first opponents of the Babbage team.
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Postby Tanzoria » Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:58 pm

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Postby The Babbage Islands » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:31 am

Krytenia wrote:
Genyria wrote:And, as one of only two extant nations to have previously played a Test match (Starblaydia being the other, way back in the early days of Jolt), I request that Krytenia's "Cyan Caps" are the first opponents of the Babbage team.


We'd be happy to oblige for a two-test series, either in TBI or in Krytenia.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:37 am

Krytenia wrote:And, as one of only two extant nations to have previously played a Test match (Starblaydia being the other, way back in the early days of Jolt), I request that Krytenia's "Cyan Caps" are the first opponents of the Babbage team.


I'm sure the monks have played cricket before.... On Jolt.

Couldn't tell you offhand if it was a test or a one day match, but I distinctly remember that one member of the team was called Fr. <Something> the Willow Carver.

I suppose it wouldn't surprise anyone to read that the monks wear magnificent - if slightly untraditional - black caps?

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Postby Mytannion » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:05 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Krytenia wrote:And, as one of only two extant nations to have previously played a Test match (Starblaydia being the other, way back in the early days of Jolt), I request that Krytenia's "Cyan Caps" are the first opponents of the Babbage team.


I'm sure the monks have played cricket before.... On Jolt.

Couldn't tell you offhand if it was a test or a one day match, but I distinctly remember that one member of the team was called Fr. <Something> the Willow Carver.

I suppose it wouldn't surprise anyone to read that the monks wear magnificent - if slightly untraditional - black caps?

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I'd like to see their helmets..

Maybe we'll just be the Baggy Greens...
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Postby Old Havansk » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:00 pm

can not wait for the cricket scorinator
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Postby Krytenia » Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:49 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:
Krytenia wrote:And, as one of only two extant nations to have previously played a Test match (Starblaydia being the other, way back in the early days of Jolt), I request that Krytenia's "Cyan Caps" are the first opponents of the Babbage team.


I'm sure the monks have played cricket before.... On Jolt.

Couldn't tell you offhand if it was a test or a one day match, but I distinctly remember that one member of the team was called Fr. <Something> the Willow Carver.

I suppose it wouldn't surprise anyone to read that the monks wear magnificent - if slightly untraditional - black caps?

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Possibly. I remember NEWI's attempt at this, and that myself, NEWI, and Star participated; I may have missed you.
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Postby Silver Beach » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:50 pm

OK are we posting rosters/stadia now? And plus, whenever we start, I get Khytenna as the first game. They are our archrivals, and we have the Silver Islands cup between us(when this starts). Gosh this will be fun
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Postby The Babbage Islands » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:56 pm

Silver Beach wrote:OK are we posting rosters/stadia now? And plus, whenever we start, I get Khytenna as the first game. They are our archrivals, and we have the Silver Islands cup between us(when this starts). Gosh this will be fun


I would discourage posting rosters and stadia now. I will start a GCF thread sometime during the football World Cup to house all of that and start a formal calendar, with a target of the first week of March for the first tests.
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