NSCAA Discussion thread

[Civil Citizenry]

My sign-up would be conditional upon host.
In other words I'm not signing up until someone competent takes control of this.

Saugeais seems competent. His baseball tournament has been well-run, no major hitches or flaws. I would sign up if Saugeais ran the tournament. I lovez me some collegiate hoops. (Is it a coincidence that Civil Citizenry's best college basketball team is Duke University?)

[Cosumar]

My sign-up would be conditional upon host.
In other words I'm not signing up until someone competent takes control of this.

Saugeais seems competent. His baseball tournament has been well-run, no major hitches or flaws. I would sign up if Saugeais ran the tournament. I lovez me some collegiate hoops. (Is it a coincidence that Civil Citizenry's best college basketball team is Duke University?)

Oh yes I know Saugeais is competent. My point was that Faknan is not, and that I would also sign-up if Saugeais were to run in it. I guess that came out wrong before. I was not doubting Saugeais but Faknan.

[Saugeais]

Well, like I said once I finish my write up for this, I'll post it and start sign-ups. That may be tonight, it could be tomorrow. I don't know right now.

[Saugeais]

Here's the thread. Go for it!

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=93002

[Cosumar]

I suppose this will serve as a discussion thread for the real NSCB RP thread.
I wonder if we could get Faknan to change the name of the thread...
Anywho, I think a system like NSCF's is a good idea, but we may not get enough signups

[Saugeais]

Which is why I'm hoping for a lot of participation to make this easier. If not, I'm sure I'll come up with something that will still make it enjoyable for everyone involved.

[Churchma]

It's not like we need 100 teams in the first year of this thing for it to be successful. The first year of NSCF only had ten teams haha.

[Saugeais]

Getting back to what Newmanistan said:

– Each nation that participated offered a list of 8 or so schools from their nation, with a record and perhaps a sentence or two on how they did within their country. The selection committee (in other words, the host (me in NSCAA 1, Qazox in NSCAA 2) then set up the tournament bracket). When setting up the tournament, the host considered factors such as the IBC (International Basketball Championships) prestige of the nation, and their overall sports programs. The tournaments worked well; their wasn’t a ton of RP, but enough, in my opinion, when considering the small scale.

– My suggestion, and Saugeais is under no obligation to do this, is to take down his message in the signup thread. Again, you don’t have to do to this, I don’t want to be seen as a bully here or whatever; but... there will be an NSCAA 3 in March. So instead of having them run separate, I think it benefits all of us if work them together.

– If so, the question becomes how do we do this? The best idea, is to set up conferences. Not one. Not two, but many. One host can do this, or multiple hosts can work together. It’s probably too late to scorinate one game at a time, so perhaps we could do in the groups of 5 games, 10 games, or whatever. Details can be worked out.

– Ultimately, we can call this “The Road to NSCAA 3"... instead of NSCB or whatever. So again, let’s work these together... not separate.

Since, like I said before I didn't know if there was something like this, how about this becomes the regular season of college basketball, and then your NSCAA is the playoffs? If that's what you're saying, then I don't see a problem with it. Then Lycrabon and anyone else that wishes to RP multiple teams can do so.

[Lycrabon]

If I only end up with one this season, that's cool. I threw the other one with no expectation really of it getting in just yet.

[Saugeais]

Also, I set the signup time to be a week. If we are trying to get as many nations as possible, would this be too short?

[Newmanistan]

Since, like I said before I didn't know if there was something like this, how about this becomes the regular season of college basketball, and then your NSCAA is the playoffs? If that's what you're saying, then I don't see a problem with it. Then Lycrabon and anyone else that wishes to RP multiple teams can do so.

Essentially, yes. But if we are going to have a 64-team bracket, then this needs to have people signing up probably 10-12 schools, a piece. Generally, people can RP the overall performance of the schools of their nation, then a focus on one school; though if they want they could just choose to use one school as their focal point. When I applied RP bonus in NSCAA 1, all schools of the same nation got same bonus applied to them, not just one of their schools. This way, no one as anything to lose by entering a bunch of schools. Furthermore, if someone did enter 10 schools, we can apply a rank to them that would be entered in the scorinator. 10 schools would be easy: pick one of your schools thats a 10, another a 9, another an 8, and so on.

Also, I set the signup time to be a week. If we are trying to get as many nations as possible, would this be too short?

Yes. At least 2 weeks. Also note that things are very busy right now... I think every major (US) sport other then baseball has a tournament running right now. So you'll want to go 2 weeks. If we have the tournament in April and not March, that should be ok too.

[Saugeais]

Lengthened the signup times from the 4th to the 15th. Also, I want to give as many nations a chance at this the get their schools in, and if the quotas aren't met, then I'll allow multiple entrants (more than 2, I mean).

[Sibirsky]

I like both the season, and tournament ideas.

[Clampo]

a team from Clampo want to join:
Clampo National University Cats
Starting Five:
C Jerry Jox 7'0 Jr.
F Kleen Brogide 6'6 Se.
F Joe Young 6'5 So.
G Henry Wlakins 6'4 Sn.
G Jerry Lame 5'11 Jr.
Bench:
Keven Clevage 7'1 Jr.
Sam Souter 6'9 Jr.
Mark Wilson 6'5 Fr.
Wil Adams 6'2 Fr.
Mark Morison 6'2 Sn.
George Johnson 6'0 So.
Sidney Wills 5'9 Fr.

[Saugeais]

OK Clampo, first announce yourself on the main thread, then when we have all participants ready, then you can post your rosters. The link is a few posts up.

[Civil Citizenry]

I'd just like to voice my support for the conference-feeding-into-the-NSCAA system. I would be more than happy to scorinate a conference if such an opportunity were to arise. As Newmanistan said, this is a great opportunity for newer players to get acquainted with scorinating and running tournaments.

Just to build on recent discussion, I think that if the NSCAA is a 64-team bracket, we should have four regional hosts for the first four rounds until the Final Four in Saugeais.

[Cosumar]

I'd just like to voice my support for the conference-feeding-into-the-NSCAA system. I would be more than happy to scorinate a conference if such an opportunity were to arise. As Newmanistan said, this is a great opportunity for newer players to get acquainted with scorinating and running tournaments.

Just to build on recent discussion, I think that if the NSCAA is a 64-team bracket, we should have four regional hosts for the first four rounds until the Final Four in Saugeais.

I agree with Civil Citizenry, 64 is an attainable number and the four regions (just like RL NCAA) would work very well.
As I mentioned on the main thread, I would be willing to scorinate as well if the need arose, having only hosted minor tournaments/events in the past.

[Saugeais]

So, if we had to place 64 teams into conferences, how many would be good? Eight 8-team conferences or 4 sixteen-team ones? Because I'm crunching the numbers and we could do two rounds of fifteen in the sixteen team conference, having an even 30 games played over the course of the season. Or have three rounds of 7 and four out of conference matches in the eight team conference, totaling 25 games played.

If we fill out the 64 alloted, which mode would be prefered? I'd vote for the 16 team conferences just because it would make it so much easier to scorinate without having to delve into the OOC schedule.

[Civil Citizenry]

So, if we had to place 64 teams into conferences, how many would be good? Eight 8-team conferences or 4 sixteen-team ones? Because I'm crunching the numbers and we could do two rounds of fifteen in the sixteen team conference, having an even 30 games played over the course of the season. Or have three rounds of 7 and four out of conference matches in the eight team conference, totaling 25 games played.

If we fill out the 64 alloted, which mode would be prefered? I'd vote for the 16 team conferences just because it would make it so much to scorinate without having to delve into the OOC schedule.

On one hand, I would support 8-team conferences for greater non-conference play. But as you said, scheduling-wise 16-team conferences would make more sense.

On a separate note, what will the ranking system be? Will it be updated every few games for real-time rank bonuses and more realistic gameplay, or will they only be updated after every season?

Now that I think about it (sorry for the topic changes), I realized that every team that plays in the regular season qualifies for the NSCAA. Is that going to be okay?

[Stannge]

So, if we had to place 64 teams into conferences, how many would be good? Eight 8-team conferences or 4 sixteen-team ones? Because I'm crunching the numbers and we could do two rounds of fifteen in the sixteen team conference, having an even 30 games played over the course of the season. Or have three rounds of 7 and four out of conference matches in the eight team conference, totaling 25 games played.

If we fill out the 64 alloted, which mode would be prefered? I'd vote for the 16 team conferences just because it would make it so much to scorinate without having to delve into the OOC schedule.

But Faknan closed the signups. Want me to ask him to reopen them ?

[North Klent]

So, if we had to place 64 teams into conferences, how many would be good? Eight 8-team conferences or 4 sixteen-team ones? Because I'm crunching the numbers and we could do two rounds of fifteen in the sixteen team conference, having an even 30 games played over the course of the season. Or have three rounds of 7 and four out of conference matches in the eight team conference, totaling 25 games played.

If we fill out the 64 alloted, which mode would be prefered? I'd vote for the 16 team conferences just because it would make it so much to scorinate without having to delve into the OOC schedule.

On one hand, I would support 8-team conferences for greater non-conference play. But as you said, scheduling-wise 16-team conferences would make more sense.

On a separate note, what will the ranking system be? Will it be updated every few games for real-time rank bonuses and more realistic gameplay, or will they only be updated after every season?

Now that I think about it (sorry for the topic changes), I realized that every team that plays in the regular season qualifies for the NSCAA. Is that going to be okay?

Well 16 team conferences would be to big I would reccomend 10 to 11 team conferences just because 16 team conferences would not help when trying to scorinate the conference tournaments and the selections for the tournament

[Civil Citizenry]

On one hand, I would support 8-team conferences for greater non-conference play. But as you said, scheduling-wise 16-team conferences would make more sense.

On a separate note, what will the ranking system be? Will it be updated every few games for real-time rank bonuses and more realistic gameplay, or will they only be updated after every season?

Now that I think about it (sorry for the topic changes), I realized that every team that plays in the regular season qualifies for the NSCAA. Is that going to be okay?

Well 16 team conferences would be to big I would reccomend 10 to 11 team conferences just because 16 team conferences would not help when trying to scorinate the conference tournaments and the selections for the tournament

16-team conferences would set up conference tournaments much better than 10- or 11-team conferences would. And every one of the 64 teams gets to the NSCAA, so that renders null the selection point.

[Saugeais]

@Civil Citizenry: Rankings will be updated after every three games (which will simulate a week like the NCAA does). It will be a top 20 system.

@Stannge: This is separate from Faknan's. He closed his down and asked my to start one up, which in turn Newmanistan said I could combine my system with his, mine being the regular season and his the playoffs.

@North Klent: I know, some RL conference like the Big Ten and Mountain West have odd ball numbers, but for the sake of simplicity right now, I'm going to put them into conferences divisible by 4.

[Saugeais]

But that now leads me to another major issue. Yes, a 64 team cap would make everyone eligible for the NSCAA tournament at the end of the season. BUT, what would you say if I allowed more than that, which in turn would change the number of teams in the conferences, which would then affect how many games are played throughout the season.

Would you want reality or simplicity for this?

[Lycrabon]

If it is needed to make even numbers (and only if needed), I do have a plethora of schools I could throw in, by way of saved document on the PC. Just throwing it in advance of it remotely being needed.

If we get a good response overall (say, 64 plus teams), disregard this.


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Saugeais, I'd rather have reality. Why have a 2-28 team qualify for the dance? In RL NCAA, the best someone could theoretically do is like 4-27 ish.