Nation States College Football (NSCF) Discussion Thread

[Osarius]

If I win out I control my own destiny to that elusive Woodlands Conference title…

Utica still have to lose one for you to take that, or you have to absolutely slaughter FSU. Head to head point differential, baby!

[Mytannion]

lol, Myt... Heartbeat? Really?

What? Don't understand this.. Anyway, mad conference you have there Osarius.

Oh yeah, Ark, you are behind because of Head-to-Head Points Differential...So, that's why you're currently losing the tiebreaker...

@ Ark, this.

Can't see anymore questions, but if there are any - direct them this way. The Woodlands is so good to scorinate, I get to read some great role-plays, which is all good.

EDIT: Also, who would be up for doing a proper american football league, as in a professional one? I know that West Guiana is doing one - and don't really want to belittle him or anything, but I mean doing one with trades, drafts, free agency and all that - basically a proper league. I'd be trying to keep it as realistic as possible, so everything that could be accurately included would be..

[Arcatea]

Also, who would be up for doing a proper american football league, as in a professional one? I know that West Guiana is doing one - and don't really want to belittle him or anything, but I mean doing one with trades, drafts, free agency and all that - basically a proper league. I'd be trying to keep it as realistic as possible, so everything that could be accurately included would be..

That would be an awesome idea. Although, that would require a lot of management and work to keep everything realistic. I'd be willing to help out if you'd like. We could have the seniors for NSCF be included in the yearly drafts.

[Arkinesia]

Also, who would be up for doing a proper american football league, as in a professional one? I know that West Guiana is doing one - and don't really want to belittle him or anything, but I mean doing one with trades, drafts, free agency and all that - basically a proper league. I'd be trying to keep it as realistic as possible, so everything that could be accurately included would be..

That would be an awesome idea. Although, that would require a lot of management and work to keep everything realistic. I'd be willing to help out if you'd like. We could have the seniors for NSCF be included in the yearly drafts.

ICly UArk's old quarterback, Matthew Coulter (they're brothers, if you couldn't tell) got drafted in the newly-formed APGL (Arkinesian Professional Gridiron League) and is now playing for the Kotaharapan Wyverns.

Kotaharapan's uniforms look much the same but they use navy instead of the brighter royal blue on the UArk unis.

[Homelands our]

I'm up for it too

[Michael VII]

If I win out I control my own destiny to that elusive Woodlands Conference title…

Utica still have to lose one for you to take that, or you have to absolutely slaughter FSU. Head to head point differential, baby!

Yeah, that's not gonna happen!

Its funny, only two of our wins haven't been shutouts so far, so our defense must be amazing this year! haha, I remember last year how even with my -4 style I'd still regularly score 35-40 points, is the AQIQ formula more defensive than the NSFS formula?

[New West Guiana]

EDIT: Also, who would be up for doing a proper american football league, as in a professional one? I know that West Guiana is doing one - and don't really want to belittle him or anything, but I mean doing one with trades, drafts, free agency and all that - basically a proper league. I'd be trying to keep it as realistic as possible, so everything that could be accurately included would be..

It's ok, If you want I could merge the PFL into your's because for the second season I'm doing a draft, but not sure how to run it effticively. I'm waiting to start it until at lest after the World Bowl.
A draft was started but the first season try the league "folded"
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[Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuk]

lol, Myt... Heartbeat? Really?

What? Don't understand this.. Anyway, mad conference you have there Osarius.

Oh yeah, Ark, you are behind because of Head-to-Head Points Differential...So, that's why you're currently losing the tiebreaker...

@ Ark, this.

Can't see anymore questions, but if there are any - direct them this way. The Woodlands is so good to scorinate, I get to read some great role-plays, which is all good.

EDIT: Also, who would be up for doing a proper american football league, as in a professional one? I know that West Guiana is doing one - and don't really want to belittle him or anything, but I mean doing one with trades, drafts, free agency and all that - basically a proper league. I'd be trying to keep it as realistic as possible, so everything that could be accurately included would be..

I'd be in. I set up my own, but I could put a team in

[Yesopalitha]

If this gets set up, and works, I'd be delighted to join.

[Osarius]

lol, Myt... Heartbeat? Really?

What? Don't understand this.. Anyway, mad conference you have there Osarius.

well...

'Vaclav, Vaclav Treblik doesn't have a clue! Doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.'

sounded a bit like this in my head, lol

is the AQIQ formula more defensive than the NSFS formula?

NSFS 3 didnt take style modifiers into consideration, so it was pretty random in that sense. That was the major factor in the decision to change the scorinator to xkoranate.





Also, I'd be down to send seniors to a professional draft. Not sure if I'd have time to RP a team though.

[Michael VII]

is the AQIQ formula more defensive than the NSFS formula?

NSFS 3 didnt take style modifiers into consideration, so it was pretty random in that sense. That was the major factor in the decision to change the scorinator to xkoranate.

Oh really, so a team with a style modifier of -4 really had nothing defensive over a team with a style modifier of +4? Average, I preferred the interface of NSFS, but xkoranate kind of dominates it.

[Osarius]

Yeah. Its still a good program, but style modifiers are a major factor in a team's performance in some ways, so using a system where they became irrelevant seemed a bit unfair in some ways. Particularly considering the massive RP bonus in NSCF (its enough to see an unranked team reach parity with the reinging champs in theory).

[Mytannion]

What? Don't understand this.. Anyway, mad conference you have there Osarius.

well...

'Vaclav, Vaclav Treblik doesn't have a clue! Doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.'

sounded a bit like this in my head, lol

Ah, yes - that was what that was. I didn't realise that was what you were directing it towards though!

What's so bad about the Heartbeat tune? It works for chants quite well really...

EDIT: Also, thanks for the support about the league too. It's in its' embryonic stages now, so don't expect anything too quickly - if I can work out a way to get it working and people want to join, then I'd start it up.

[Silver Beach]

I wouldn't mind merging the PFL and Mytannion's league.

However, for my roster, would we have a draft of players from this league? Almost everybody has a roster, and it would be cool to see players progress from college to professionals. At least, can I do that with my own players?

[Churchma]

I love the thoughts of creating a (greater/larger) PFL- if that's the route that you want to take this Mytannion; but let's keep the discussion in this thread NSCF-related. I understand Myt's idea is just in the early stages, and it may have just blossomed here, but I'd like to prevent this thread being filled up with non-NSCF related discussion. So if you create a PFL discussion thread, just let me know and I'll link it to this post!

[Osarius]

Again, my bad on the lack of power rankings. I know some of you really liked them, and I've enjoyed putting them together, but I'm struggling a bit lately. I've had a pretty hectic week and every time I sit down to RP on any event I had intentions of taking part in recently... I'm struggling. Various RL crap going on, which I don't wanna get into. I'm doing what I can though, and I'll be able to continue scorinating at the very least. I'm gonna try and get a quick RP in now, but it's not gonna be anything special, I'm afraid.

[Mytannion]

This is replying to what Ark said in the RP thread.

Right, I'm pretty fed up of people complaining about it when they lose. Ark, I counted your role-play - but Arcatea (sp?) also role-played, and I'm going to brutally honest about it - his role-play was better than yours, in my opinion, okay? Thus, I allocated role-play bonus as I saw fit (that is what I'm meant to do as a scorinator, is it not?), then I simply copied and pasted the results the scorinator gave me into the results thread.

If you have any complaints about this and perhaps think I'm untrustworthy or don't want me scorinating your games, I'm sorry - but that is your problem, if you wish to direct these complaints to anybody - I suggest Churchma or Osarius and they will remove me from my role of scorinator, if they see fit.

EDIT: Also, if Silver Beach role-plays first can you please make my scores three touchdowns (with three two-point conversions), all passed in by Ostgurn - evidently, it is part of my role-playing arc - the other score would be a safety, obviously.

[Homelands our]

I have a idea on how teams qualify for NSCF5 forward

You could make a ranking system of nations that have competed before and that would say how many teams they can enter.
1 win is worth 2 points
The most recent NSCF is x by 3
Next recent is x by 2
Third x by 1
After that result are null in the ranking

EG: for NSCF5
Hupo university
NSCF2-10 wins x 1 = 10
NSCF3-8 wins x 2 = 16
NSCF4 9 wins x 3 = 27

Total points would be 53 if that is the only team from that nation

All nations that are in the rankings can enter 2 and first-timers only one

[New West Guiana]

I have a idea on how teams qualify for NSCF5 forward

You could make a ranking system of nations that have competed before and that would say how many teams they can enter.
1 win is worth 2 points
The most recent NSCF is x by 3
Next recent is x by 2
Third x by 1
After that result are null in the ranking

EG: for NSCF5
Hupo university
NSCF2-10 wins x 1 = 10
NSCF3-8 wins x 2 = 16
NSCF4 9 wins x 3 = 27

Total points would be 53 if that is the only team from that nation

All nations that are in the rankings can enter 2 and first-timers only one

There already is a ranking system it sounds like you want to make this look like the WC, it isn't this league play. Ex: your team may have sucked in NSCF 3 and went 3-9, doesn't mean you have a smaller chance to win game in the next one. At the start of a new season everyone is a on a level playing field, older teams don't have and advantage over newer teams just because they've been here longer.

[Homelands our]

I have a idea on how teams qualify for NSCF5 forward

You could make a ranking system of nations that have competed before and that would say how many teams they can enter.
1 win is worth 2 points
The most recent NSCF is x by 3
Next recent is x by 2
Third x by 1
After that result are null in the ranking

EG: for NSCF5
Hupo university
NSCF2-10 wins x 1 = 10
NSCF3-8 wins x 2 = 16
NSCF4 9 wins x 3 = 27

Total points would be 53 if that is the only team from that nation

All nations that are in the rankings can enter 2 and first-timers only one

There already is a ranking system it sounds like you want to make this look like the WC, it isn't this league play. Ex: your team may have sucked in NSCF 3 and went 3-9, doesn't mean you have a smaller chance to win game in the next one. At the start of a new season everyone is a on a level playing field, older teams don't have and advantage over newer teams just because they've been here longer.

They would still be on a level playing field this is to calculate how many teams a nation can send to NSCF

[New West Guiana]

They would still be on a level playing field this is to calculate how many teams a nation can send to NSCF

You don't qualify for anything but the playoffs. You teams are already in the NSCF league, the max some one can sign-up is two rankings don't matter, they are their just to flash around at opponents.

[Arkinesia]

This is replying to what Ark said in the RP thread.

Right, I'm pretty fed up of people complaining about it when they lose. Ark, I counted your role-play - but Arcatea (sp?) also role-played, and I'm going to brutally honest about it - his role-play was better than yours, in my opinion, okay? Thus, I allocated role-play bonus as I saw fit (that is what I'm meant to do as a scorinator, is it not?), then I simply copied and pasted the results the scorinator gave me into the results thread.

If you have any complaints about this and perhaps think I'm untrustworthy or don't want me scorinating your games, I'm sorry - but that is your problem, if you wish to direct these complaints to anybody - I suggest Churchma or Osarius and they will remove me from my role of scorinator, if they see fit.

EDIT: Also, if Silver Beach role-plays first can you please make my scores three touchdowns (with three two-point conversions), all passed in by Ostgurn - evidently, it is part of my role-playing arc - the other score would be a safety, obviously.

Sorry, I didn't realize Arcatea was the controlling nation for Bucktown.

[Michael VII]

I have a idea on how teams qualify for NSCF5 forward

You could make a ranking system of nations that have competed before and that would say how many teams they can enter.
1 win is worth 2 points
The most recent NSCF is x by 3
Next recent is x by 2
Third x by 1
After that result are null in the ranking

EG: for NSCF5
Hupo university
NSCF2-10 wins x 1 = 10
NSCF3-8 wins x 2 = 16
NSCF4 9 wins x 3 = 27

Total points would be 53 if that is the only team from that nation

All nations that are in the rankings can enter 2 and first-timers only one

There already is a ranking system it sounds like you want to make this look like the WC, it isn't this league play. Ex: your team may have sucked in NSCF 3 and went 3-9, doesn't mean you have a smaller chance to win game in the next one. At the start of a new season everyone is a on a level playing field, older teams don't have and advantage over newer teams just because they've been here longer.

I'm fairly sure that we factor in rankings in the xkoranate formula, seeing as max ranking is 7.000, so that's what I did for my conference. RP bonuses take precedence but rankings still play some role...

[Arcatea]

This is replying to what Ark said in the RP thread.

Right, I'm pretty fed up of people complaining about it when they lose. Ark, I counted your role-play - but Arcatea (sp?) also role-played, and I'm going to brutally honest about it - his role-play was better than yours, in my opinion, okay? Thus, I allocated role-play bonus as I saw fit (that is what I'm meant to do as a scorinator, is it not?), then I simply copied and pasted the results the scorinator gave me into the results thread.

If you have any complaints about this and perhaps think I'm untrustworthy or don't want me scorinating your games, I'm sorry - but that is your problem, if you wish to direct these complaints to anybody - I suggest Churchma or Osarius and they will remove me from my role of scorinator, if they see fit.

EDIT: Also, if Silver Beach role-plays first can you please make my scores three touchdowns (with three two-point conversions), all passed in by Ostgurn - evidently, it is part of my role-playing arc - the other score would be a safety, obviously.

Sorry, I didn't realize Arcatea was the controlling nation for Bucktown.

Hey, Its ok, I'm shocked I won too.

[Osarius]

I'm fairly sure that we factor in rankings in the xkoranate formula

Correct. But the RP bonus is massive (the weekly max RP bonus alone would outrank a non-RPing max ranked team) so it will outweigh that in many ways. So established teams get a slight advantage, so its nothing major.

See, the ranking points are calculated in a way that means no team has a particularly high total. Therefore a team with a decent standard of RP can have a decent shot at an upset over the top teams. Cases in point: Utica lost to unranked FSU last season; Touffer took out both FSU and Utica this season; Bucktown just took out UArk...and so on. In all of those cases, the losing team was higher ranked (top 5, in fact) and both teams were actively RPing. Those are the major ones I can remember, but there are more, less obvious upsets. To me that's proof that the system generally works and requires no alteration.

There is also a system to decide how many teams a nation can send. You send one team in your first season (unless an eception is made for signup total purposes), you can send two the following season if you RP'd consistently, and possibly a third team in subsequent seasons, providing you have RP'd consistently in the past. There is no qualification quota based on rank, like there is with UICA, and I really don't think we need one. With 40 teams, we're hardly struggling to fit everyone in. If we had lik... 150 teams entering, then sure, I'd be more inclined to agree with a ranking-based limitation of entries though, as previous rankings seem to be a decent barometer of RP activity. But thats not the case, and I think if it aint broke, we shouldnt be trying to fix it.