Nation States College Football (NSCF) Discussion Thread

[Osarius]

Quick question, though a good discussion: How many teams make the playoffs, and who qualifies?

This season its 16 teams. Top two in each conference plus the six next best records.

[Homelands our]

I would love the idea too maybe the maybe the top 2 in each conference would make the playoffs and then the next 16 best teams could play for 6 places

[Mytannion]

Well, certainly lots to think about - I've not got much time now, but when I'm back - I'll have a look at some of the things said and we can hopefully get some discussion going.

[Arkinesia]

Hey Mytannion, could you put the Woodlands Conference results on a delay today? I've got a busy day between now and the cutoff and I don't think I can make an RP before the end of my class at 16:45 EST today I'll try to get one in ASAP after class, though. Maybe make the cutoff 18:00 or 19:00?

[Mytannion]

Hey Mytannion, could you put the Woodlands Conference results on a delay today? I've got a busy day between now and the cutoff and I don't think I can make an RP before the end of my class at 16:45 EST today I'll try to get one in ASAP after class, though. Maybe make the cutoff 18:00 or 19:00?

See, I live in the UK and if I've converted correctly (and correctly understood what you have said), that'll mean I have to scorinate at around 11PM/Midnight, as a 14-year old, I have school tomorrow - and have to play some football (or soccer, if you insist!) for my school team after school, so I need to get some rest tonight. I'll try to delay it as much as possible though, but I can't make any promises.

[Michael VII]

Sorry guys, I am just going to have to do a boring RP today because I spent over two hours writing an RP, and then my battery died before going to sleep (NZ time is really annoying to put up with!), and when I woke up Chrome wouldn't respond, so I lost everything. I'll just do something to get an RP bonus and hope it gets me over an embarrassing loss.

[Arkinesia]

Hey Mytannion, could you put the Woodlands Conference results on a delay today? I've got a busy day between now and the cutoff and I don't think I can make an RP before the end of my class at 16:45 EST today I'll try to get one in ASAP after class, though. Maybe make the cutoff 18:00 or 19:00?

See, I live in the UK and if I've converted correctly (and correctly understood what you have said), that'll mean I have to scorinate at around 11PM/Midnight, as a 14-year old, I have school tomorrow - and have to play some football (or soccer, if you insist!) for my school team after school, so I need to get some rest tonight. I'll try to delay it as much as possible though, but I can't make any promises.

It turns out I've got some time so I'll crank out an RP post ASAP. One of these days I'll update the stats…

[Michael VII]

Yo, could you please hold off the Woodlands cutoff until at least I, [and Arkinesia], get an RP in. I won't take long, this one is only a short one because of my reasons stated above. Thanks

[Yesopalitha]

I would like to start participating in this as well. My Nation only has one national college, so if you could give me some pointers in how to get on board, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks!

[Mytannion]

I would like to start participating in this as well. My Nation only has one national college, so if you could give me some pointers in how to get on board, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks!

Well, this season has just gone past its' mid-point - so if you keep an eye on the NSCF 4 RP/Roster Thread, you'll see the quality of role-playing and what sort of things go on in the season, and there are various links showing the results and such.

Sign-ups for NSCF 5 will appear about a month after this season is over, so if you keep checking back to here - you'll be able to see when the sign-up thread is up and then there will be a simple guide in that thread that shows you what you have to do to sign your team up for next season.

[Michael VII]

I would like to start participating in this as well. My Nation only has one national college, so if you could give me some pointers in how to get on board, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks!

Yeah, we are currently in the middle of NSCF 4 at the moment, but when NSCF 5 comes around be sure to look out for it, if you'll RP, then we're definitely interested in having you around! But check out the RPs and see what its like and how people do, and stay keen on joining.

There's 5 games left in the regular season, which means that in two weeks time, the season ends, on the 2nd of December (NZT), and then there's four matchdays of playoffs, which will go until the 16th of December (again NZT), and then we'll be in signups about a month after that, and looking at starting again in February I guess...Sadly, these things take time, so make sure you keep a look out for when NSCF 5 signups start and especially when we begin playing because we don't want more people that sign up and don't do any RP!

Oh, and make sure that in the meantime you become a fan of Frbiba State University!

[Mytannion]

Hrrright, I'll get that discussion going then.

@ Civil Citizenry - I didn't mean for there to be both a bowl system and a play-off system or anything like that, I think we should go the whole way and decide whether we're having one or the other really, both have their merits and they both are fairly easy to work if we can find a simplistic way of running the bowl system.

@ Churchma - Aye, I did mean the FBS - I just call it the NCAA as it is basically the only NCAA college football we see in Europe, so I sort of use NCAA as a catch-all term for all the top-level college sports we see over here. I have to agree that starting with NSCF 5 we should cut down on teams in the play-offs or in the bowl games (whichever ends up happening).

Anyway, as CC said - I think the main discussion here needs to be about whether we're satisfied with the current system, or whether we want to change to a bowl format. Or, the other option - is to have bowl games between certain conferences just to develop some IC rivalry or have bowl games for teams who have winning records but don't make the 12-team play-offs (which I feel would be another important change we should make).

[Carasatoga]

Omigod! It's C-A-R-O-G-A! I can understand spelling Carasatoga wrong, but Caroga is only 6 letters!

[Michael VII]

Hrrright, I'll get that discussion going then.

@ Civil Citizenry - I didn't mean for there to be both a bowl system and a play-off system or anything like that, I think we should go the whole way and decide whether we're having one or the other really, both have their merits and they both are fairly easy to work if we can find a simplistic way of running the bowl system.

@ Churchma - Aye, I did mean the FBS - I just call it the NCAA as it is basically the only NCAA college football we see in Europe, so I sort of use NCAA as a catch-all term for all the top-level college sports we see over here. I have to agree that starting with NSCF 5 we should cut down on teams in the play-offs or in the bowl games (whichever ends up happening).

Anyway, as CC said - I think the main discussion here needs to be about whether we're satisfied with the current system, or whether we want to change to a bowl format. Or, the other option - is to have bowl games between certain conferences just to develop some IC rivalry or have bowl games for teams who have winning records but don't make the 12-team play-offs (which I feel would be another important change we should make).

The problem I have with the bowl system is, what is there to say that a 13-1 Utica is better or worse than a 14-0 Colden or Bugny A&M, or a 12-2 UAD/RMU/USJI is better than those teams. Since we don't have OOC games between top teams, how can we really decide who the top two teams are. Also, in NSCF 3, Darien-Pushania and FSU were ranked 1 and 2 at the end, or the two teams who would play for the NSCF Championship, and Utica were only ranked #5. Now we all know that Utica ended up winning the entire thing, so that's enough to say that the whole pit #1/#2 thing doesn't work, otherwise Utica wouldn't have won (I would have! ), and we'd also say goodbye to huge playoff runs that get teams from low seeds to championship contenders!

And yeah, if we [outside of America] ever say NCAA Football, we mean FBS, its the only thing that shows outside of the US! But I'd love to be able to see the FCS/D2/D3 playoffs on TV!

I say stick with playoff, perhaps reduce the teams, and allow winning teams that don't qualify the chance to play in a bowl game the week of (or before) the playoffs begin just for some RP ability after their team has been eliminated. It would be a nice thing, I'd like to think if I went 8-6 but didn't qualify for the playoffs, that I'd get a bowl game just as a reward for active RPing! But I vote for 16 team playoff...

[Arcatea]

Hrrright, I'll get that discussion going then.

@ Civil Citizenry - I didn't mean for there to be both a bowl system and a play-off system or anything like that, I think we should go the whole way and decide whether we're having one or the other really, both have their merits and they both are fairly easy to work if we can find a simplistic way of running the bowl system.

@ Churchma - Aye, I did mean the FBS - I just call it the NCAA as it is basically the only NCAA college football we see in Europe, so I sort of use NCAA as a catch-all term for all the top-level college sports we see over here. I have to agree that starting with NSCF 5 we should cut down on teams in the play-offs or in the bowl games (whichever ends up happening).

Anyway, as CC said - I think the main discussion here needs to be about whether we're satisfied with the current system, or whether we want to change to a bowl format. Or, the other option - is to have bowl games between certain conferences just to develop some IC rivalry or have bowl games for teams who have winning records but don't make the 12-team play-offs (which I feel would be another important change we should make).

The problem I have with the bowl system is, what is there to say that a 13-1 Utica is better or worse than a 14-0 Colden or Bugny A&M, or a 12-2 UAD/RMU/USJI is better than those teams. Since we don't have OOC games between top teams, how can we really decide who the top two teams are. Also, in NSCF 3, Darien-Pushania and FSU were ranked 1 and 2 at the end, or the two teams who would play for the NSCF Championship, and Utica were only ranked #5. Now we all know that Utica ended up winning the entire thing, so that's enough to say that the whole pit #1/#2 thing doesn't work, otherwise Utica wouldn't have won (I would have! ), and we'd also say goodbye to huge playoff runs that get teams from low seeds to championship contenders!

And yeah, if we [outside of America] ever say NCAA Football, we mean FBS, its the only thing that shows outside of the US! But I'd love to be able to see the FCS/D2/D3 playoffs on TV!

I say stick with playoff, perhaps reduce the teams, and allow winning teams that don't qualify the chance to play in a bowl game the week of (or before) the playoffs begin just for some RP ability after their team has been eliminated. It would be a nice thing, I'd like to think if I went 8-6 but didn't qualify for the playoffs, that I'd get a bowl game just as a reward for active RPing! But I vote for 16 team playoff...

I'd love to see the D2 playoff's on TV here in the states too! (As well as the FCS and D3, but I'm a fan of D2, even walked onto a D2 team for about a week ) It looks like the system that is in place now works fine. If you wanted to use a bowl type system, you could merge the two ideas, and have a playoff to determine which teams play in the Championship Bowl, have the 3rd place match have a bowl, and then a few more to have the rest of the teams in the playoffs. But then you get into which teams play which bowls, and then we start having a BCS type argument.

If you want to make any changes, I'd like to see a two division system. But I've seen that discussed and I'm not going to hold my breath.

[Yesopalitha]

In the meantime I'll work on my team, names, height, weight, strengths, weaknesses, etc., and then post it here for you all to see and critique.

Is that okay?

And what is Style of play (+5) mean?

[Michael VII]

In the meantime I'll work on my team, names, height, weight, strengths, weaknesses, etc., and then post it here for you all to see and critique.

Is that okay?

And what is Style of play (+5) mean?

Style of play is a number between -5 and +5 that determines the mentality of your team. It is used in the scorination of the games to determine the result. For Example, one of my teams, Frbiba State has a -3.5 (I think?) style, and that reflects its defensive prowess, as it has now recorded 5 shutouts in 10 games. However, my other team, Jagoza has a +4 style, and regularly scores more on average, but also conceded a lot more points on average. If you want a high scoring team, go for +1-+5, if you want a low scoring team, go for -1--5 style. It doesn't really matter all that much, but its an easy indicator of what your team considers important.

[Yesopalitha]

In the meantime I'll work on my team, names, height, weight, strengths, weaknesses, etc., and then post it here for you all to see and critique.

Is that okay?

And what is Style of play (+5) mean?

Style of play is a number between -5 and +5 that determines the mentality of your team. It is used in the scorination of the games to determine the result. For Example, one of my teams, Frbiba State has a -3.5 (I think?) style, and that reflects its defensive prowess, as it has now recorded 5 shutouts in 10 games. However, my other team, Jagoza has a +4 style, and regularly scores more on average, but also conceded a lot more points on average. If you want a high scoring team, go for +1-+5, if you want a low scoring team, go for -1--5 style. It doesn't really matter all that much, but its an easy indicator of what your team considers important.

Thanks! So say +5 as Green Bay, and -5 as Pittsburgh? give or take. lol

[Arcatea]

Style of play is a number between -5 and +5 that determines the mentality of your team. It is used in the scorination of the games to determine the result. For Example, one of my teams, Frbiba State has a -3.5 (I think?) style, and that reflects its defensive prowess, as it has now recorded 5 shutouts in 10 games. However, my other team, Jagoza has a +4 style, and regularly scores more on average, but also conceded a lot more points on average. If you want a high scoring team, go for +1-+5, if you want a low scoring team, go for -1--5 style. It doesn't really matter all that much, but its an easy indicator of what your team considers important.

Thanks! So say +5 as Green Bay, and -5 as Pittsburgh? give or take. lol

Yes. Ugh... Green Bay.....

[Darmen]

Green Bay is da BEST!

[Osarius]

Thanks! So say +5 as Green Bay, and -5 as Pittsburgh? give or take. lol

Pretty much, yeah.

I always think of it as +5 is likely to be a pass-first team led by a gunslinger QB, with a dodgy defense... where -5 is more your aggressive defensive team with shutdown corners, who probably get a lot of turnovers, but run the ball a lot on offense and have a weak passing game. Of course, your defensive team might actually have a great quarterback but a terrible O-line, or the offensive team might have two dominant runningbacks, and so on... its up to you how you RP it all. The value can influence the scores a lot though, as a point of comparison, my team are a +2.5 and have only just picked up their first shutout after three and a half seasons, lol.

It's also important to note that its possible to be successful with either end of the spectrum, although most people tend to go for offensive values.

[Yesopalitha]

Thanks! So say +5 as Green Bay, and -5 as Pittsburgh? give or take. lol

Pretty much, yeah.

I always think of it as +5 is likely to be a pass-first team led by a gunslinger QB, with a dodgy defense... where -5 is more your aggressive defensive team with shutdown corners, who probably get a lot of turnovers, but run the ball a lot on offense and have a weak passing game. Of course, your defensive team might actually have a great quarterback but a terrible O-line, or the offensive team might have two dominant runningbacks, and so on... its up to you how you RP it all. The value can influence the scores a lot though, as a point of comparison, my team are a +2.5 and have only just picked up their first shutout after three and a half seasons, lol.

It's also important to note that its possible to be successful with either end of the spectrum, although most people tend to go for offensive values.

What about a team that relies heavily on opportunistic trick plays?

I am creating my team now so I can run it by you folks, and then join NSCF 5.

[Osarius]

That's your call. I suppose I'd RP them as a somewhat defensive side.
But I'd be assuming they rely on trick plays because their offense isnt particularly strong, though...


There's no need to run anything by us, btw. Its your creation, you can make a team of clones if you want (I did that in NSCF 2), or send a team of professionals who have been forced to enrol in college for eligibility purposes by a gridiron-loving dictator. You can make your team be sentient animals. They could be a team for proper the other football (soccer, if you must) who got mixed up (Bluth did the reverse in the World Cup once, I think) ... and so on. There's no limit to what you can do with your team, really. As long as you follow the generated results and don't godmod, really. And even then, sometimes people won't mind you godmodding a bit in the name of fun/entertainment.

But if you're doing it now, by all means, I'll take a look.

[Yesopalitha]

Here's my team. Constructive Criticism would be appreciated.

The Freedom's Altar University Flames
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=151082&p=7644392#p7644392

[Michael VII]

They could be a team for proper the other football (soccer, if you must)

Codes of Football in coolness.

Rugby>Grid Iron>Australian>League>Gaelic>Soccer. Yeah, I call the others proper football before soccer!