General Sports Roleplaying Questions (OOC)

[Main Nation Ministry]

Should I use the xkoranite scorinator? Also how does it work?

You could probably find an option in xkoranate that would produce whatever kind of scoring system you want (with the exception of the Must-10 scoring system used in MMA and professional boxing). You can also modify the XML files for the various sports to increase/decrease scoring, increase/decrease randomness or even create scorinators for entirely new sports, but that's not something I'd recommend attempting until you're familiar with how xkoranate works.

As for using xkoranate, the main difficulty involves the interface which doesn't look like the Windows interfaces everybody's used to. The buttons at the top are (from left to right) New File, Open, Save, Save As and Table Generator. The Table Generator is mainly useful when you're doing a group stage that isn't round robin (or a tournament using Casaran or another variant of Swiss-system). To get started, just click the plus in the lower left (and ignore the section called "bonuses" which is for the Olympics) and select a sport. Then, enter your athletes/teams as "participant" (the "team" field can be left blank or used to hold trigrams or nation names). The "skill" field is the ranking+RP bonus field. The "style" field (which is only used for a few sports) is for style modifiers (which use the standard -5 to 5 scale, with negative meaning defense-oriented and positive meaning offense-oriented). The rest, I believe, is fairly self-explanatory (though keep in mind that the "table sort rules" A.K.A. tiebreakers use the soccer terminology for all sports, so in gridiron football "goals for" is actually "points scored" and in baseball "goals for" is actually "runs scored"). If you're not sure what a button does, just place your mouse over it and xkoranate will display a tooltip explaining what it does.

Yeah, this is going to take a while to get used to and figure out how to format my e-sports I planning for the Q1 of 2017. I have several more questions though, in the files for xkoranate, I came across a file labeled sports which contain all the sports that contained what appears to be code. Are these important? If so, how do I use them on Xkoranate?

[Barunia]

Open xkoronate, and the files will be there. Don't open them from the folders. If you can understand the code, you can use those folders to edit how xkoronate reads the file, but you do need to know what you are doing.

Each sport file represents the code xkoronate uses to determine how it calculates and presents the scores.

[Main Nation Ministry]

I have several last questions, on Xkoranate there is this thing called table generator which confuses me because when I generate a table from there, it lists Pld W D L GF GA Pts. The last question is what sport should I use to judge the e-sports tournament I'm planning? Note: E-sports isn't a sport listed in Xkoranate, so is there a sport that is close enough to use in the tournament?

[Drawkland]

I have several last questions, on Xkoranate there is this thing called table generator which confuses me because when I generate a table from there, it lists Pld W D L GF GA Pts. The last question is what sport should I use to judge the e-sports tournament I'm planning? Note: E-sports isn't a sport listed in Xkoranate, so is there a sport that is close enough to use in the tournament?

How does the scoring work for eSports?

Table generators are used for tournament groups, using preexisting results already generated by xkoranate (or in the same format). They arrange teams based on the Tiebreaker system you specify on the the generator page. The abbreviations stand for "Games Played," "Wins," "Draws," "Losses," "Goals For (scored)," "Goals Against (allowed)," "Points (which uses the point system you specify on the screen but defaults to 3 points per win, 1 point for draws, and 0 points for losses)."

However, you shouldn't need the table generator at this stage. They're only used for specific circumstances.

[Tobiasia]

When do the Winter Olympics start anyone?

Whenever whomever wins hosting rights says so. And we're still bid-less afaik.

Oh ok thanks what happens if we don't get a bid at all?

[Liventia]

Whenever whomever wins hosting rights says so. And we're still bid-less afaik.

Oh ok thanks what happens if we don't get a bid at all?

There are no doubt bids in the works. Winter Olympics don't usually start this early anyway – look at the earliest for a late December-early January start, possibly later.

[Main Nation Ministry]

I have several last questions, on Xkoranate there is this thing called table generator which confuses me because when I generate a table from there, it lists Pld W D L GF GA Pts. The last question is what sport should I use to judge the e-sports tournament I'm planning? Note: E-sports isn't a sport listed in Xkoranate, so is there a sport that is close enough to use in the tournament?

How does the scoring work for eSports?

Table generators are used for tournament groups, using preexisting results already generated by xkoranate (or in the same format). They arrange teams based on the Tiebreaker system you specify on the the generator page. The abbreviations stand for "Games Played," "Wins," "Draws," "Losses," "Goals For (scored)," "Goals Against (allowed)," "Points (which uses the point system you specify on the screen but defaults to 3 points per win, 1 point for draws, and 0 points for losses)."

However, you shouldn't need the table generator at this stage. They're only used for specific circumstances.

Let's see for scoring. I was planning on having both individual and teams matches for the tournament. The bids will not be about what stadium the tournament will take place in, instead nations will bid on what games the competitors will play for the tournament, both real or fictitious. The scores should be based on the person who gets the highest score wins the tournament, and I already planning a dystopian theme to the tournament by having a "you die in the game, you die in real life" rule to the game, sorta like battle royale. If there is any recommendations in which sport in Xkoranate that can be used for the scoring for eSports, I would be grateful.

[Barunia]

If it's player vs player, I'd suggest judo, which will basically generate a score that reads "player A defeats player B", or similar.

Gymnastics will give each competitor an individual point score.

[Main Nation Ministry]

Alright, this should be useful. Thanks for the help, also. Glory to the Main Nation Ministry!

[Qasden]

Anyone down for a little holiday bowling tourney? Last time I checked, Oisin's 10-pin tournament died awhile back.

[Islana Lunigo]

(To avoid double-post)

So...is that a no? (⁎⁍̴̆Ɛ⁍̴̆⁎)

[Nephara]

(To avoid double-post)

So...is that a no? (⁎⁍̴̆Ɛ⁍̴̆⁎)

Doubleposting with an alt is still, astonishingly, a double-post. Don't spam.

The answer is easy. Have you made a signup thread? Did anyone sign up?

[Qasden]

Doubleposting with an alt is still, astonishingly, a double-post. Don't spam.

Sorry brother. I'll stand back for a bit.

[Raven Landing]

My Question is does the sport have to have a scorinator?


My country plays Blood Bowl a fast growing sport where occasionally people die.

It has an entire rule system and rolling system and can be played without a scorinator in a RP format.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02fZAQAc85g

[Gregoryisgodistan]

My Question is does the sport have to have a scorinator?


My country plays Blood Bowl a fast growing sport where occasionally people die.

It has an entire rule system and rolling system and can be played without a scorinator in a RP format.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02fZAQAc85g

Technically it doesn't have to use a scorinator, as long as it's a Sport. But it's certainly forum convention, and you're unlikely to get many signups without one. You're welcome to try though, there's no rule against it. But I'll point out that just because something can be done without a scorinator doesn't mean it has to be.

[Western The Eas Armyistan]

How is the winner for a Sports RP determined?

I understand from the sticky guide that it is based on RNG. Does this mean that Random Nation can just sign up for an RP and be declared the winner at random without doing anything? Or is the person with the best RP posts declared the winner?

[Bears Armed]

How is the winner for a Sports RP determined?

I understand from the sticky guide that it is based on RNG. Does this mean that Random Nation can just sign up for an RP and be declared the winner at random without doing anything? Or is the person with the best RP posts declared the winner?

The 'scorinator' programmes generally used are a bit more sophisticated than just RNG, and in most cases posting good RP will result in you being given a bonus to your chances of success. In some cases, such as the [Assocation Football] World Cup, the teams' records of past performance also influence matters.

[Free Republics]

How is the winner for a Sports RP determined?

I understand from the sticky guide that it is based on RNG. Does this mean that Random Nation can just sign up for an RP and be declared the winner at random without doing anything? Or is the person with the best RP posts declared the winner?

Its true that somebody could win any tournament by doing absolutely nothing other than signing up once but the odds of that happening are very close to zero. When it became clear that the odds of that happening in the WBC weren't actually close to zero, the tournament format and scorinator were tweaked so that it wouldn't.

Those that RP regularly do better in the long term than those that don't (proportionate to RP quality) and those that rely on rank coasting tend to see their rank slowly erode as time goes by.

[95X]

How is the winner for a Sports RP determined?

I understand from the sticky guide that it is based on RNG. Does this mean that Random Nation can just sign up for an RP and be declared the winner at random without doing anything? Or is the person with the best RP posts declared the winner?

The biggest difference between a random number generator and a scorinator is two-fold: a scorinator has a "skill" rating for each team (and occasionally a skill modifier) usually based on afforementioned rank and RP, and will generate a final score for that sport that looks like a final score.

Also, as has been said to many newcomers to NS Sport, RPing increases your chances of winning but does not guarantee it, and all good tournament hosts grade RPs so for example a long and dry RP might receive less of an RP bonus than a well-written and relevant paragraph.

[The Federation of Kendor]

Is car racing, like a grand prix considered a sport?

[Free Republics]

Is car racing, like a grand prix considered a sport?

Yes. There's a recurring event called the World Grand Prix Championship (WGPC) and there have been several other auto racing events here over the years. There's also a scorinator for auto racing built into xkoranate (which is flexible enough that it can also be used to scorinate horse racing and chariot racing) and I'm pretty sure Hodori used a spreadsheet scorinator for his domestic circuit.

[Sulimany]

How do I participate in the World Cup?

[North Carcossia and the Hesperides]

How do I participate in the World Cup?

All you need to do to take part in the World Cup is to say that you are participating in the relevant sign-up thread; this thread is the relevant one for the upcoming edition. It’s currently on wait list, though, so there is no guarantee that you’ll make the cut. It’s also recommended that you take part in the Baptism of Fire (a competition solely for débutante nations) before your first World Cup, as it gives you practice role playing and snags you some ranking points before the qualifiers, but this is not a requirement and sign-ups for the BoF have closed.

The Guide to Sports Roleplaying is a good read before you take part in your first tournament. I’d also recommend reading the Quickstart RP Guide in the first post of the current BoF thread.

Best of luck to you.

[Western The Eas Armyistan]

What is considered to be the most prestigious/most coveted Sports RP to win?

Also, thanks to Bears Armed, Free Republics, and 95X for answering my question from earlier.

[Barunia]

What is considered to be the most prestigious/most coveted Sports RP to win?

Also, thanks to Bears Armed, Free Republics, and 95X for answering my question from earlier.

Probably the World Cup, as it is the biggest event outside the Olympics.