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Postby Free Republics » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:01 am

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Western The Eas Armyistan wrote:What is considered to be the most prestigious/most coveted Sports RP to win?

Also, thanks to Bears Armed, Free Republics, and 95X for answering my question from earlier.


Probably the World Cup, as it is the biggest event outside the Olympics.


The World Cup has to be the answer to that question, as it is the only event that draws several pages of RP per day (during Qualifying) and about a page of RP per day (for the Finals group stage). Hosting a WCC event means reading alot of RPs (and often better quality RPs than you'd see in other events). Hosting an Olympics means scorinating alot of events simultaneously. Based on that, I'd say the Olympics is the most prestigious and most difficult event to host but a World Cup title is the most prestigious prize in NS Sports.
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Postby Starblaydia » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:54 pm

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Probably the World Cup, as it is the biggest event outside the Olympics.


The World Cup has to be the answer to that question, as it is the only event that draws several pages of RP per day (during Qualifying) and about a page of RP per day (for the Finals group stage). Hosting a WCC event means reading alot of RPs (and often better quality RPs than you'd see in other events). Hosting an Olympics means scorinating alot of events simultaneously. Based on that, I'd say the Olympics is the most prestigious and most difficult event to host but a World Cup title is the most prestigious prize in NS Sports.

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Postby Huri de Wintre » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:43 pm

How many competitions can someone generally RP at a time?

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Postby Kaboomlandia » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:26 pm

Huri de Wintre wrote:How many competitions can someone generally RP at a time?

It depends. For example, I used to do all of the major ones, but I've now retired from basketball and baseball to put greater effort into soccer, football and hockey.

It's all up to you - you can put a bunch of effort into one single competition, or you can do them all. Your choice :)
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Postby Engleberg » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:56 pm

Hello everyone; I've come here to see if I can get an answer about my competition here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=400785

I was wondering if it was best to RP these races on the forums, or to use some sort of simulation program? And if the latter is the best, do you have any to recommend?


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Postby Barunia » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:52 pm

Engleberg wrote:Hello everyone; I've come here to see if I can get an answer about my competition here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=400785

I was wondering if it was best to RP these races on the forums, or to use some sort of simulation program? And if the latter is the best, do you have any to recommend?


Thank you.


The answer to the first question is both. The idea behind sports RP is to establish the results, so that you don't have evryone RPing that they won. How the participants got to the result is something that you should let them RP.

Eg. Say the results list my racer as coming last. I now have the choice of decicidng why. Will I RP a mechanical fault, or perhaps I my driving was just bad. That's my choice, but I can't ignore the result and say I didn't came last.

As to the scorinator ( the simulation programme), the most common one around here is xkoronate, which does have car racing. However, it sounds like this would work really well on Hodori's Rally Sim, where you can run multiple stages. You should be able to find both by using the search function.
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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:29 pm

Barunia wrote:
Engleberg wrote:Hello everyone; I've come here to see if I can get an answer about my competition here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=400785

I was wondering if it was best to RP these races on the forums, or to use some sort of simulation program? And if the latter is the best, do you have any to recommend?


Thank you.


The answer to the first question is both. The idea behind sports RP is to establish the results, so that you don't have evryone RPing that they won. How the participants got to the result is something that you should let them RP.

Eg. Say the results list my racer as coming last. I now have the choice of decicidng why. Will I RP a mechanical fault, or perhaps I my driving was just bad. That's my choice, but I can't ignore the result and say I came last.

As to the scorinator ( the simulation programme), the most common one around here is xkoronate, which does have car racing. However, it sounds like this would work really well on Hodori's Rally Sim, where you can run multiple stages. You should be able to find both by using the search function.


I believe the xkoranate specifies how many seconds/laps back they were or if they failed to finish. I suppose it's possible to finish 48 laps back on a 200 lap race just by being really bad, but more likely there was some other issue. Of course, you're free to specify what issue. And if you get DNF, that means you didn't finish, but you can still RP why. Crash? Blown engine? Driver got diarrhea and had to leave the race? It's up to you, but as said above, you have to abide by the scorinator result.

(That being said, several nations, including myself, Free Republics, and Hicana, have at various times RP-ed an unreliable press that claims their nation won everything, often by ridiculous margins, even though they didn't. This can be fine as long as you make clear what is going on and that the press reports aren't supposed to be true.)
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Postby Populi-Terrae » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:15 am

I've been thinking of hosting a hybrid of the Hunger Games and Survivor on this forum. Would that be allowed?
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Postby Drawkland » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:04 am

Populi-Terrae wrote:I've been thinking of hosting a hybrid of the Hunger Games and Survivor on this forum. Would that be allowed?

If you can find a way to generate or otherwise come up with results, then people would be willing to join.

Some people here may dispute whether that sort of thing belongs here or the NationStates forum or P2TM, but I think if you do it right it could excel here.
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Postby 95X » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:35 am

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Populi-Terrae wrote:I've been thinking of hosting a hybrid of the Hunger Games and Survivor on this forum. Would that be allowed?

If you can find a way to generate or otherwise come up with results, then people would be willing to join.

Some people here may dispute whether that sort of thing belongs here or the NationStates forum or P2TM, but I think if you do it right it could excel here.
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Postby Always Picking the First Option » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:49 am

Has anyone ever organized and run a sports roleplay based on competing in multiplayer games (e.g. FIFA for football, etc.) rather than just on scorination? If so, would anyone have a link to such a thread?

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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:45 am

Always Picking the First Option wrote:Has anyone ever organized and run a sports roleplay based on competing in multiplayer games (e.g. FIFA for football, etc.) rather than just on scorination? If so, would anyone have a link to such a thread?


Unless you managed to create an NS Sports mod for FIFA or something, that would probably belong in P2TM as it would involve RL teams. I know somebody (perhaps Northern Surnise Islands or Valanora) made an NS mod for Football Manager but to my knowledge it's never been used for anything IC and I don't even know if it's fleshed out enough for that to be possible.
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Postby Osarius » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:00 am

Always Picking the First Option wrote:Has anyone ever organized and run a sports roleplay based on competing in multiplayer games (e.g. FIFA for football, etc.) rather than just on scorination? If so, would anyone have a link to such a thread?

Like an e-sports tournament?
I just tried a search for esports but the search function is acting up (for me at least), so I can't be certain (or provide links). But it wouldn't be difficult to find an existing sport that produces scores akin to an e-sports tournament, so I reckon it's likely it's been done here somewhere.

If you mean using a multiplayer game as a means of deciding results for a tournament... yes. That has been done.
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How do you generate a league season as in football (soccer)
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Lisianski wrote:How do you generate a league season as in football (soccer)


Here's a small guide.
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Postby New Serrland » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:08 pm

It has been quite a few years since I was last active here (3 maybe?). Have there been any earth-shattering moments in NS Sports that have entered the Mythos of the Forum lately? I'll spend the next few days digging through old threads before diving into it NS Sports again...

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Domestic championship I RP on my own? Just describing season and it's results.

And is there smth like NSFS on android?

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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:04 pm

Kyrgyz Kaganate wrote:Domestic championship I RP on my own? Just describing season and it's results.


Yes. There are often club competitions like the UEFA Champions League, depending on the sport, which you are certainly encouraged to enter in the relevant newswire thread. And how much detail you want to go into is up to you.

And is there smth like NSFS on android?


Unfortunately, no, there is no scorinator app for android or iPhone, and since they charge developer fees to make an app and release it, it is unlikely there will be unless someone wants to foot the bill.
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Postby Saintland » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:41 pm

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And is there smth like NSFS on android?


Unfortunately, no, there is no scorinator app for android or iPhone, and since they charge developer fees to make an app and release it, it is unlikely there will be unless someone wants to foot the bill.


Its possible to make a scorinator app for Android without paying Google, though you probably wouldn't be able to distribute it through Google Play without paying Google money. It may be possible, in fact, to port xkoranate to Android (but somebody who knows how to program is going to have to actually spend time doing the porting and parts of the code may or may not have to be completely rewritten to get it to compile and run on Android).

With iPhone, you'd have to pay money to Apple (and get their approval), so I doubt we'll ever see a scorinator for any iDevice.

If phone browsers support repl.it, then its possible to write a scorinator in a standard programming language and post it on there. Spaam's quidditch scorinator was written in Python but it appears that they also support most other major programming languages.

Given how often this question comes up, I think somebody probably needs to make a decent scorinator option for phones eventually (and I might take a crack at it if/when I have the time and interest).
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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:46 pm

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Unfortunately, no, there is no scorinator app for android or iPhone, and since they charge developer fees to make an app and release it, it is unlikely there will be unless someone wants to foot the bill.


Its possible to make a scorinator app for Android without paying Google, though you probably wouldn't be able to distribute it through Google Play without paying Google money. It may be possible, in fact, to port xkoranate to Android (but somebody who knows how to program is going to have to actually spend time doing the porting and parts of the code may or may not have to be completely rewritten to get it to compile and run on Android).

With iPhone, you'd have to pay money to Apple (and get their approval), so I doubt we'll ever see a scorinator for any iDevice.

If phone browsers support repl.it, then its possible to write a scorinator in a standard programming language and post it on there. Spaam's quidditch scorinator was written in Python but it appears that they also support most other major programming languages.

Given how often this question comes up, I think somebody probably needs to make a decent scorinator option for phones eventually (and I might take a crack at it if/when I have the time and interest).


Don't you need to jailbreak an Android to download an app that's not in the Google Play store? Or whatever the equivalent term for Android is?
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Postby Saintland » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:02 pm

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Its possible to make a scorinator app for Android without paying Google, though you probably wouldn't be able to distribute it through Google Play without paying Google money. It may be possible, in fact, to port xkoranate to Android (but somebody who knows how to program is going to have to actually spend time doing the porting and parts of the code may or may not have to be completely rewritten to get it to compile and run on Android).

With iPhone, you'd have to pay money to Apple (and get their approval), so I doubt we'll ever see a scorinator for any iDevice.

If phone browsers support repl.it, then its possible to write a scorinator in a standard programming language and post it on there. Spaam's quidditch scorinator was written in Python but it appears that they also support most other major programming languages.

Given how often this question comes up, I think somebody probably needs to make a decent scorinator option for phones eventually (and I might take a crack at it if/when I have the time and interest).


Don't you need to jailbreak an Android to download an app that's not in the Google Play store? Or whatever the equivalent term for Android is?


No, all you have to do on Android is change a setting under security called "unknown sources" (and you'd probably want to anyway to be able to download from Amazon's app store).
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Postby Arkosis » Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:18 pm

So . . . Arkosisan Raptor Jousting, would that qualify as a sport?

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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:01 am

Arkosis wrote:So . . . Arkosisan Raptor Jousting, would that qualify as a sport?


So are humans jousting raptors, or are sapient raptors jousting each other? Either way, jousting is a sport. And the State Sport of Maryland, I might add, albeit without raptors. I don't know if xkoronate has a scorinator specifically for jousting, and I haven't installed it on my new computer yet so I can't check, but I suppose if you just need a winner and loser (x defeats y) then you could use the judo scorinator.
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Postby Drawkland » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:08 am

Gregoryisgodistan wrote:
Arkosis wrote:So . . . Arkosisan Raptor Jousting, would that qualify as a sport?


So are humans jousting raptors, or are sapient raptors jousting each other? Either way, jousting is a sport. And the State Sport of Maryland, I might add, albeit without raptors. I don't know if xkoronate has a scorinator specifically for jousting, and I haven't installed it on my new computer yet so I can't check, but I suppose if you just need a winner and loser (x defeats y) then you could use the judo scorinator.

House of Judah/Korizland made a Jousting Scorinator that uses Google Docs. Assuming Raptor Jousting uses the same scoring system as normal Medieval horse jousting, then you could probably use that if you were to host a Raptor Jousting competition.

Which, by the way, I'd totally be into participating in.
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Postby Frenline Delpha » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:10 am

Drawkland wrote:
Gregoryisgodistan wrote:
So are humans jousting raptors, or are sapient raptors jousting each other? Either way, jousting is a sport. And the State Sport of Maryland, I might add, albeit without raptors. I don't know if xkoronate has a scorinator specifically for jousting, and I haven't installed it on my new computer yet so I can't check, but I suppose if you just need a winner and loser (x defeats y) then you could use the judo scorinator.

House of Judah/Korizland made a Jousting Scorinator that uses Google Docs. Assuming Raptor Jousting uses the same scoring system as normal Medieval horse jousting, then you could probably use that if you were to host a Raptor Jousting competition.

Which, by the way, I'd totally be into participating in.

Luckily, Frenline just so happens to have a small farm for raptor breeding created through gentic engineering.
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