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Limey George
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Postby Limey George » Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:12 am

On behalf of His Georgeocity, the Limey Association Football Federation (LAFF) presents...

a Limey bid for Campionato Esportiva 39

LOCATION AND HISTORY

The Fiefdom of Limey George consists the entirety of the Isle of Albion, directly south of Apox. Known globally for its gargantuan merchant navy -- to facilitate the mass export of limes, and... some other things, I guess -- the Isle is a single fiefdom under the leadership of His Georgeousness, George XLVII.

Some have expressed concerns over such trivial things as "political freedom", "civil rights", and "human rights". His Limeyness gives his personal guarantee that the serfs workers of the Isle suffer not. They only work sixteen hours per day, and are allowed two short breaks in that time; additionally, they only work sixteen days in a row, with the seventeenth given as time off, in honour of George XVII, who instituted the rule many moons prior. Very mindful. Very gregarious Georgearious (Corrected this. Who the lemon is Greg? Are you trying to get us shut down? - Ed.).

Notably, the annual lime harvest will largely take place during the suggested tournament period (summer), meaning the majority of the serfs limeys (come on, man. You know foreigners are sensitive about that kind of language - Ed.) will likely not bother tourists too much. They also probably can't really afford tickets to most matches anyway. So... More tickets for tourists. Like you! Winning!

The concerns raised by a World Assembly observer last year, regarding the treatment of migrant workers, have also been addressed already. His Georgeness has decreed that no migrant workers will be permitted to take part in the construction of any part of the infrastructure associated with this bid. Similarly, the vile accusations of institutional discrimination on the basis of sexuality in the Fiefdom have been thoroughly disproven: there is no legislation which would restrict any action based on a person's sexuality. The Lord of the Orchards, His Limeocity George XLVII hath decreed "The Rejector of Crosses cares not who you choose to diddle", and "those who discriminate in such a way to negatively impact the productivity of the Isle shall be punished accordingly."

The details of the bid, in terms of locations and stadia, will be finalised at a later date, should the Isle be chosen as host. Along with that information, we will provide guidance for travellers, detailing some relevant history and the culture of the Isle to better equip them for their time here.

FORMAT & TIEBREAKERS

A single round-robin group stage -- with groups of 4 ideally, and certainly not larger than 5 -- with group winners and a selection of runners up (and possibly third placed teams if necessary) progressing to the knockout rounds.

Actual details will vary based on entry numbers, but no playoff will take place between the group stage and knockout rounds, and no more than 16 teams will progress to the knockout rounds. The actual number progressing will be a number such that all teams yet to be eliminated will play in any given round, so no byes will be afforded.

Group stage classification tiebreakers will be, in the following order:
  • points (3 for a win, 1 for a draw),
  • head to head points,
  • head to head goal difference,
  • wins
  • goal difference,
  • and the drawing of lots (OOC: a one-off match scorinated with RP bonus only)

The knockout rounds will not be "seeded", but pre-determined spots will be assigned based on group and finish position within the group (i.e. A1 v C2, etc). The bracket will be fixed in this manner and will remain unchanged.

Each knockout tie will be a single game, with extra time and penalty kicks employed if necessary to determine a winner when scores are level at the end of ninety minutes, or extra time respectively.

SCORINATION

All matches will be scorinated using xkoranate 0.3.3. The SQIS paradigm will be used, with additive style modifiers.
Style modifiers will be rounded to two decimal places, with any value greater than 5 capped at 5, and any value smaller than -5 capped at -5.
Scorination will take place roughly every 48 hours, depending on availability. Effort will be made to ensure that no two matchdays are cut off any closer together than 40 hours, and ample warning will be provided for any change in schedule.

ROLEPLAY BONUS

Initial ranks will be the latest available Campionato Esportiva ranks as provided by the current rankings custodian.

RP bonus will be added directly to initial rank, on a cumulative basis throughout the tournament. There will be no degradation.

All RPs posted by a nation between matchdays will be counted toward their RP bonus awarded for the next matchday.
The maximum available bonus for each matchday will be unaffected by the number of RPs posted.

An additional roster bonus will be awarded to a maximum value of a one and a half matchday's maximum RP bonus.
This will be applied at the point the roster is posted, in the same way any regular RP bonus would be.

Teams without rosters will not be eligible to accrue RP bonus at all until a roster is posted, though RPs will still be graded.
At the point a roster is posted, previously graded RPs will count toward their RP bonus.

The maximum available RP bonus per matchday will be calibrated in such a way that the median ranked team in the competition (before matchday 1, no roster bonus applied) can equal the highest ranked team (without RP bonus) at the mid-point of the tournament.
For example, if the median rank is 25 and the highest rank is 50, and the tournament consists 10 matchdays, the maximum RP bonus available per matchday will be (50-25)/((10/2)+1.5), or 3.85 (rounded to two decimal places).

To check this calculation, we can take a starting rank of 25, and maximum roster bonus (3.85*1.5), and maximum RP bonus on 5 matchdays (5*3.85) and sum them.
25+(3.85*1.5)+(3.85*5) = 50.025.

I feel this approach should provide significant incentive for the majority of teams to actively RP throughout the tournament, while not harshly negating any advantage a higher ranked side may possess.

Prompts may be provided at various points of the competition, though there is no obligation to engage, and there will be no impact on RP bonus as a result of that decision. They will serve simply as an assist for those who would like to roleplay off something.

HOSTING EXPERIENCE

The user behind Limey George has hosted other events of a varying nature, including parts of FLAGS on two occasions (as Cobrio/Osarius), the U-18 World Cup (Sporting World Cup 3), and Rabastor Unity Trophy 54 (both as Osarius). They have also previously been the NSCF Commissioner for multiple seasons -- which involved co-ordinating between multiple hosts, alongside scorinating various conferences as well as the playoffs at times -- and is the current organiser of CAFA LigAnaia (since its formation).

In addition, this user has been directly involved in the development and maintenance of numerous scorinators, including the IFCF scorinator and CAFA LigAnaia scorinator -- both of which were adapted for purpose from existing files -- and is currently leading efforts to port xkoranate into Python for future development. As a result, their understanding of the scorinator is likely significantly above average.



Questions are welcomed, and I'll answer as best I can.

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Tumbra
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Postby Tumbra » Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:17 am

This bid has been acknowledged and registered. Other bids have 5 days/120 hours to appear.

It (hopefully) shouldn't appear this tournament, but what is this bid's perspective on the use of AI for roleplaying?
THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF TUMBRA
Tumbra - a sprawling, modern federal democratic republic located in Esportiva. Strong economy, strong civil rights, strong freedoms.
Population: 121 million | TLA: TMB | Capital City: Straton | Largest City: Couno
Constitution | Domestic Database | Domestic Football | Domestic Motorsports | Wiki Article
President: David Hardcastle (Labour) | Prime Minister: Bertram Andrews (Labour)
U-18 World Cup 13, 21 Champions | Di Bradini Cup 51, 57 Champions | Campionato Esportiva 31, 33, 34, 38 Champions

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Limey George
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Postby Limey George » Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:41 am

Tumbra wrote:It (hopefully) shouldn't appear this tournament, but what is this bid's perspective on the use of AI for roleplaying?

AI-generated images will be judged appropriately when an attributing note is provided. I can acknowledge the usefulness of some of these systems for generating useful images for RP, and that's fine. Just don't pass it off as your own work.

If AI is used for text, it's a bit more complicated. I would expect a note of attribution to explain what was AI-generated and what was the work of the user, etc so the RP can be fairly judged, though.

If no attribution is provided, and any part of an RP is deemed to be the work of AI (there are tools for this sort of thing), it will be treated as plagiarism, and no RP bonus will be awarded. Previously accrued bonus will also be reduced to zero.

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Josifovo
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Postby Josifovo » Tue Sep 24, 2024 9:11 am

cao

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Sangti and the Filindo Isles
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Postby Sangti and the Filindo Isles » Wed Sep 25, 2024 5:24 am

Some queries to both the organizers and prospective hosts:
1. Directed to the organizer - Not sure on previous editions, but would nations that has not been in the last three CE's but has KPB/WR points due to participation in previous WCC-sanctioned events, would have a rank in this edition of the CE?

2. For prospective hosts, if these nations would be considered unranked, would the KPB/WR points be used in the group draw to distinguish them from those who are completely not in either of the rankings table?
THE ROYAL UNION OF SANGTI AND THE FILINDO ISLES
Region: Esportiva | Sportswire | Trigramme: SFI | Leader: Alfonso Arias| Libertad Sportswear
Founder, Trofeo de Paz
Winners, World Baseball Classic 29, NSCAA 6, Federation Club Cup I, Rugby Union World Cup 23 | Qualified for World Cup 68, 69 and 71

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Postby Tumbra » Wed Sep 25, 2024 6:30 am

Sangti and the Filindo Isles wrote:Some queries to both the organizers and prospective hosts:
1. Directed to the organizer - Not sure on previous editions, but would nations that has not been in the last three CE's but has KPB/WR points due to participation in previous WCC-sanctioned events, would have a rank in this edition of the CE?


A few cycles ago I decided to give TJUN-ia and Hapilopper, both of whom had recently moved to the region but had yet to participate in a CE, their KPB points. I will keep this precedent going (unless it turns out there is now major sustained opposition to this).

Affected this cycle by this would be the following nations: Katzeburg, Kanzlia, Sangti and the Filindo Isles, Alanis Star, the Grearish Union (the latter if they choose to sign up).
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THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF TUMBRA
Tumbra - a sprawling, modern federal democratic republic located in Esportiva. Strong economy, strong civil rights, strong freedoms.
Population: 121 million | TLA: TMB | Capital City: Straton | Largest City: Couno
Constitution | Domestic Database | Domestic Football | Domestic Motorsports | Wiki Article
President: David Hardcastle (Labour) | Prime Minister: Bertram Andrews (Labour)
U-18 World Cup 13, 21 Champions | Di Bradini Cup 51, 57 Champions | Campionato Esportiva 31, 33, 34, 38 Champions

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Irithoren
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Postby Irithoren » Wed Sep 25, 2024 12:21 pm

In again

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Limey George
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Postby Limey George » Thu Sep 26, 2024 1:06 am

Sangti and the Filindo Isles wrote:2. For prospective hosts, if these nations would be considered unranked, would the KPB/WR points be used in the group draw to distinguish them from those who are completely not in either of the rankings table?

As stated in the bid:
Initial ranks will be the latest available Campionato Esportiva ranks as provided by the current rankings custodian.

No alterations or special considerations will be made. If the ranks provided list a nation as unranked, they will be unranked in the draw.

I do not feel that hosting a tournament should give one any sort of authority over how rankings are calculated or maintained.

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Dod Rava
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Postby Dod Rava » Thu Sep 26, 2024 11:27 am

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REPUBLIKA DOD RAVY
Republic of Dod Rava
Population: 18 million ☆ Capital: Rawa

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Pre-confirming Cheetahs and reptiles Coalison
Champions of the Londinium 7s Tournament II!!! fourth place in AVBF 7s,Plate champion at AVBF 7s III,URSA 7s 2 and Watson's Bay Int'l and also:
we reached the play-ins at WLC 22,quarter finals at WLC 26 and WLC 27 and Ro16 at WLC 28!
Hosted:WLC 27

International Geese Brigade - Celebrating 0 Radiation and 3rd Place!
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Postby Cheetahs and reptiles Coalison » Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:05 pm

Natanians and Nosts wrote:In



Pre-confirming Cheetahs and reptiles Coalison



Leek

Confirming that we do sign up...

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Tumbra
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Postby Tumbra » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:49 am

5 days have passed since the bid by Limey George was presented. With no additional bids being presented, we now proceed to voting.

The deadline for competing bids has passed. All nations that have signed up for the tournament, minus puppets, may telegram the nation of Kyrast with their vote. There are two options:

1. ACCEPT the bid by Limey George;
2. REJECT the bid by Limey George;
3. ABSTAIN.

Additionally, all nations that have signed up for the tournament, minus those bidding, should telegram the nation of Kyrast with their vote on the new ranking system. There are two options:

1. ACCEPT the new ranking system;
2. REJECT the new ranking system;
3. ABSTAIN

Voting will last for 72 hours from the time of this post.
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THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF TUMBRA
Tumbra - a sprawling, modern federal democratic republic located in Esportiva. Strong economy, strong civil rights, strong freedoms.
Population: 121 million | TLA: TMB | Capital City: Straton | Largest City: Couno
Constitution | Domestic Database | Domestic Football | Domestic Motorsports | Wiki Article
President: David Hardcastle (Labour) | Prime Minister: Bertram Andrews (Labour)
U-18 World Cup 13, 21 Champions | Di Bradini Cup 51, 57 Champions | Campionato Esportiva 31, 33, 34, 38 Champions

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Kyrast
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Postby Kyrast » Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:13 am

8 votes were received by the time of the voting cutoff.

Of the 8 votes, 8 chose to accept the Limey George bid. Congratulations!

Of the 8 votes, 7 expressed an opinion on the new ranking system. 5 chose to accept the new ranking system. 1 voted against. 1 chose to abstain. The new ranking system therefore PASSES.
THE REPUBLIC OF KYRAST
Kyrast - A cold, maritime, close-knit yet diverse nation with eight states, forging a way forward together as one.
Population: 22 million | TLA: KYR | Capital and Largest City: New Couno
Domestic Sports | More to come
President: Lionel Holloway (Independent Democratic) | Prime Minister: Jeanette Hewitt (Democratic Party)
Puppet of Tumbra

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Limey George
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Postby Limey George » Thu Oct 03, 2024 2:48 am

Excellent, thank you.

I aim to have the RP thread and IC information up before this weekend, with a schedule to be announced shortly afterwards.
Matchday one cutoff will not be any sooner than the evening of October 12th as it stands, to give a full week for people to sort rosters and for me to get everything else prepped.

Checking the OP, we currently have 29 entrants (plus one "numbers puppet") but an ideal number would be 32, to make things easy in terms of format.
So if anyone is on the fence about signing up, now is a good time.

Test Anchor
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Starszia
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Postby Starszia » Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:38 pm

I'm in.

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Riena
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Riena » Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:58 pm

Hello.

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Limey George
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Postby Limey George » Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:29 am

That's 32 by my count.

If we get another entrant before I do the draw (which I'll probably do in the next 36 hours at some point), I'll drop the numbers puppet for them.

Everything thread coming shortly.

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