Scorinators (OOC Discussion)

[Polar Islandstates]

well, that's basically it, yeah. except that the bonus is applied as a number between 0 and 1, so you need to work out beforehand the proportional RP to be added to each team. This is why many hosts use an excel spreadsheet to tally up RP scores per MD, then having a final column that works out that nation's score as a percentage of the maximum - becoming the RP bonus as enterer into xkoranate. excel can then be used to work out fancy things like degrading bonuses and whatnot.

[United South Dominion]

We badly need to have a scorinator for High School football games.
Can anyone help us please.

By the way, you could sign up here if you wish to do so.

[Qazox]

We badly need to have a scorinator for High School football games.
Can anyone help us please.

By the way, you could sign up here if you wish to do so.

just use the Football (american) under xkoranate. and NO you can't sign-up here. as this isn't a sign-up thread.

[Vaugania]

I have some questions about xkoranate if you don't mind answering them.

In the column that says "Skill", how is that determined? I was running this in a team competition by the way. (ice hockey)

[Karditan]

In the column that says "Skill", how is that determined? I was running this in a team competition by the way. (ice hockey)

You input it yourself. The higher the skill, the more likely that participant is to win.

[Vaugania]

In the column that says "Skill", how is that determined? I was running this in a team competition by the way. (ice hockey)

You input it yourself. The higher the skill, the more likely that participant is to win.

Does skill have anything to do with rankings?

[Karditan]

Does skill have anything to do with rankings?

Well, the higher ranked participants would get higher skill ratings, yeah.

[Vaugania]

I was running some numbers for a domestic hockey league on xkoranate and one of my teams seemed a little out of whack. After the first game (which it lost), the standings stated that they had played twice and had two wins. Every other team had played only one game. As I went onward and eventually got to 10 games, every team had played ten, except for that same team. They had supposedly played 20.

Is anyone else having this problem or does anyone have a solution?

[Kinitaria]

I was running some numbers for a domestic hockey league on xkoranate and one of my teams seemed a little out of whack. After the first game (which it lost), the standings stated that they had played twice and had two wins. Every other team had played only one game. As I went onward and eventually got to 10 games, every team had played ten, except for that same team. They had supposedly played 20.

Is anyone else having this problem or does anyone have a solution?

Check to make sure you haven't entered that particular team twice.

[Vaugania]

I was running some numbers for a domestic hockey league on xkoranate and one of my teams seemed a little out of whack. After the first game (which it lost), the standings stated that they had played twice and had two wins. Every other team had played only one game. As I went onward and eventually got to 10 games, every team had played ten, except for that same team. They had supposedly played 20.

Is anyone else having this problem or does anyone have a solution?

Check to make sure you haven't entered that particular team twice.

That is exactly what I did. Thank you.

[Free South Califas]

The quoted text is from the Football Friendly Scheduler thread; I've moved my part of the conversation to this thread.

ETA: It appears that jumping threads has cut off the quoted material. To fill you in, a friendly between Apox and NSI was scorinated several times by Slembana before he found the result acceptably realistic and posted it.

Dude, I promise that I actually did get scores like 145-0. I think I might have got scores in the thousands! No offence, but I actually got those scores. I think you should re-sim a match if you got 145-0 or something.

Anyway, moving on.

My understanding of the football scorinator is that scores in the hundreds or thousands are not possible. I thought a team could only score in some 30 or 40 opportunities per match, or something like that. One of the participants in the game in question has said he's fine with what happened, but we haven't heard from the other, and thread opinion is strongly against such tampering. What could explain Slembana's results, and what should he do--reinstall NSFS, make extra double triple sure that he's using the right option...?

Just to be clear, this is not for piling on Slembana - he didn't break any forum rules and he has been well reproached in the other thread for this relatively small mistake in the grand scheme of things. I am asking for supportive or constructive feedback for the Slemster and other people who face this issue in the future.

[Saugeais]

The quoted text is from the Football Friendly Scheduler thread; I've moved my part of the conversation to this thread.

ETA: It appears that jumping threads has cut off the quoted material. To fill you in, a friendly between Apox and NSI was scorinated several times by Slembana before he found the result acceptably realistic and posted it.

Dude, I promise that I actually did get scores like 145-0. I think I might have got scores in the thousands! No offence, but I actually got those scores. I think you should re-sim a match if you got 145-0 or something.

Anyway, moving on.

My understanding of the football scorinator is that scores in the hundreds or thousands are not possible. I thought a team could only score in some 30 or 40 opportunities per match, or something like that. One of the participants in the game in question has said he's fine with what happened, but we haven't heard from the other, and thread opinion is strongly against such tampering. What could explain Slembana's results, and what should he do--reinstall NSFS, make extra double triple sure that he's using the right option...?

Just to be clear, this is not for piling on Slembana - he didn't break any forum rules and he has been well reproached in the other thread for this relatively small mistake in the grand scheme of things. I am asking for supportive or constructive feedback for the Slemster and other people who face this issue in the future.

We are talking about soccer scores, right? Not American football ones?

In none of my thousands of simulated scores over the past year or so have I ever gotten a score higher than 10. Of course, the boundaries could be a little higher than that (there was an 11 and 12 this past World Cup), but I highly doubt he could've come up with a score as ridiculous as that, unless he himself did some major tweaking to the code. Other than that, he appears to just be exaggerating a lopsided score not in his favor.

[Blouman Empire]

The quoted text is from the Football Friendly Scheduler thread; I've moved my part of the conversation to this thread.

ETA: It appears that jumping threads has cut off the quoted material. To fill you in, a friendly between Apox and NSI was scorinated several times by Slembana before he found the result acceptably realistic and posted it.

Dude, I promise that I actually did get scores like 145-0. I think I might have got scores in the thousands! No offence, but I actually got those scores. I think you should re-sim a match if you got 145-0 or something.

Anyway, moving on.

My understanding of the football scorinator is that scores in the hundreds or thousands are not possible. I thought a team could only score in some 30 or 40 opportunities per match, or something like that. One of the participants in the game in question has said he's fine with what happened, but we haven't heard from the other, and thread opinion is strongly against such tampering. What could explain Slembana's results, and what should he do--reinstall NSFS, make extra double triple sure that he's using the right option...?

Just to be clear, this is not for piling on Slembana - he didn't break any forum rules and he has been well reproached in the other thread for this relatively small mistake in the grand scheme of things. I am asking for supportive or constructive feedback for the Slemster and other people who face this issue in the future.

I will say that I have got scores like that from using NSFS, I am sure I am using it incorrectly as I am getting scores that high. I am not tweaking with the code but just doing what I think is right. Maybe Slembana did the same thing and got that sort of result, but when I have done dummy tests I have also got scores in the hundreds.

I would like to know what I am doing wrong and what I should be doing. It is the main reason why I haven't placed any bids in for events

[Commerce Heights]

NSFS doesn’t check whether teams’ ranks are greater than the maximum rank. If they are, you can get ridiculous results.



I do this deliberately (and to a much lesser extent, obviously) in my domestic league to create a sufficient disparity in skill between Élite League clubs and teams at the bottom of the pyramid.

[Farfadillis]

NSFS doesn’t check whether teams’ ranks are greater than the maximum rank. If they are, you can get ridiculous results.

Then the explanation is simple: we never tried having a team with a better rank than the maximum and Slembana didn't know what the maximum rank in NSFS works for. Thank you a lot.

[Kinitaria]

Just a little test using my own league: this also works in xkoranate, using the NSFS formula, if you import teams from a .txt file.
Here, Mi'ato City have been given a value of ten times what they normally have.
I do the same thing for my domestic cups, incidentally - Premier Division teams get a large multiplier to their values, teams further down the pyramid, a lower or non-existent multiplier.

[Blouman Empire]

NSFS doesn’t check whether teams’ ranks are greater than the maximum rank. If they are, you can get ridiculous results.

Then the explanation is simple: we never tried having a team with a better rank than the maximum and Slembana didn't know what the maximum rank in NSFS works for. Thank you a lot.

I'll have to have a look over that and see if that is the reason for my scores.

[Birolika]

Is there a scorinator for rounders?

[Qazox]

Is there a scorinator for rounders?

I don't think so.

[Birolika]

Is there a scorinator for rounders?

I don't think so.

Do you reckon there is a sport that comes up with similar scores then that does have a scorinator?

[Liventia]

I don't think so.

Do you reckon there is a sport that comes up with similar scores then that does have a scorinator?

Presumably baseball or softball, since the sports are similar in nature.

[Birolika]

Maybe, although you get points for every base taken and you don't get struck out. However the fact games only last two innings might balance that out.

[Cyborg Holland]

Maybe, although you get points for every base taken and you don't get struck out. However the fact games only last two innings might balance that out.

And you can't get half scores. That's the real clincher.

[Liventia]

Maybe, although you get points for every base taken and you don't get struck out. However the fact games only last two innings might balance that out.

And you can't get half scores. That's the real clincher.

It's really not that difficult to edit the sport file to make that possible.

[Saugeais]

I'm sure CH as no problem adding a rounders scorinator to xkoranate if someone wants develop it.