Scorinators (OOC Discussion)

[Sarzonia]

I don't know. It's not something I think we'd develop in NS Sports.

That said, I think Pacitalia might be able to help you with some info.

[Northwest Kalactin]

We have this .xlsx file, dunno about anything else though.

[Bluecliff]

I don't know. It's not something I think we'd develop in NS Sports.

That said, I think Pacitalia might be able to help you with some info.

Thank you for looking! It didn't seem like the type of thing NS Sports would have handy, but I figure the type of nerds who run sophisticated domestic football leagues online might have some overlap with the type of nerds who enjoy election systems and data (with all affection!)

I scrolled through Pacitalia's factbook, and it does indeed look like they might be able to help. This is more of a technical question, but did you "tag" them just here with this reply? That is, will they be likely to see this thread, or is the nation link so I can send them a TG?

We have this .xlsx file, dunno about anything else though.

This is awesome! It seems like the competently coded and well-thought out version of what I slapped together. It seems like it'll need some tweaking based on different electoral systems and the possibility of regionally-based parties, but I'll play around with it. Those discussions about the specifics of domestic political systems seem more suited to another forum, in any case. This is great though, did you come up with it? I see the link is from discord and I know NS Sport has a discord but I'm otherwise unfamiliar.

Thank you both for the help! Those couple sentences put me on the right track

[Graintfjall]

The spreadsheet NWK linked was created by Vephrall (also known as Bedistan) an old NS user who isn't around now.

Not an electionator, but once you have generated your results you may find this tool useful for representing them.

[Bluecliff]

The spreadsheet NWK linked was created by Vephrall (also known as Bedistan) an old NS user who isn't around now.

Not an electionator, but once you have generated your results you may find this tool useful for representing them.

Haha, this is one of my most-visited sites, to the point that the link was already blue. Thanks all for the help and thank you to Bedistan as well!

[Sarzonia]

I scrolled through Pacitalia's factbook, and it does indeed look like they might be able to help. This is more of a technical question, but did you "tag" them just here with this reply? That is, will they be likely to see this thread, or is the nation link so I can send them a TG?

The tag serves as a way to get a player's attention because you get a notification when someone tags you thusly. It's also an avenue for you to send a TG if you'd like.

I don't know what Pacitalia's RL schedule is like in terms of his ability to pop onto NS Sport, but you at least have a way of getting in touch to find out if he can help you with doing an election sim.

[Bluecliff]

I scrolled through Pacitalia's factbook, and it does indeed look like they might be able to help. This is more of a technical question, but did you "tag" them just here with this reply? That is, will they be likely to see this thread, or is the nation link so I can send them a TG?

The tag serves as a way to get a player's attention because you get a notification when someone tags you thusly. It's also an avenue for you to send a TG if you'd like.

I don't know what Pacitalia's RL schedule is like in terms of his ability to pop onto NS Sport, but you at least have a way of getting in touch to find out if he can help you with doing an election sim.

I sent a TG but this is good to know, thanks for the help!

[Zwangzug]

I have a very janky system of spreadsheets for redistributing IRV votes in multiparty elections that I'm happy to share, but it's rather ad hoc and not super automated. Feel free to TG if you're interested.

[Northwest Kalactin]

Kalactinator 1.00 Release

Web Browser Version——Source Code

Kalactinator is a Lacrosse scorinator, that you can run on mobile straight out of your web browser. It only offers lacrosse currently, although more sports are in the works.

How to Use the Program
This program was built in a web browser called repl.it, it is an online IDE for many languages of code. To use the program within the web browser, all you have to do is hit the big green button that looks like an arrow at the top of the screen, and it will ask you for input in a small window next to the encodement of the the program. You will then be asked for the name of Team 1:, then Team 2, and the skill and style modifiers for each team. After entering each field, hit enter or return to have the program ask you for the next input field. After you enter the final field, which is the max rank, and hit “enter”, the program will scorinate the match for you.

Why Should I use this program over Xkoranate?
• Easier Interface and less of a learning curve
• Ability to score 1 match at once
• Style Modifiers and Home Field Advantage for Lacrosse
• Style Modifiers apply during the scorination, rather than after
• Arguably Less randomness than the xkoranate lacrosse function
• Usable on any device, and no downloads needed

If you have any questions, or feature requests for Kalactinator, please do contact me. I am looking to turn Kalactinator into a scorinator with multi-sport functionality, so if you want any sport added in, just ask me.

[Hebitaka]

Need a scorinator to scorinate inter divisional leagues for baseball or football(can it be done using xkorinator?)

[Zwangzug]

Need a scorinator to scorinate inter divisional leagues for baseball or football(can it be done using xkorinator?)

xkoranate is not good at interdivisional leagues, but NSFS3 has a feature for "play X games against each team in your division, and Y teams against each team in the other division(s)."

[Commonwealth of Baker Park]

Need a scorinator to scorinate inter divisional leagues for baseball or football(can it be done using xkorinator?)

xkoranate is not good at interdivisional leagues, but NSFS3 has a feature for "play X games against each team in your division, and Y teams against each team in the other division(s)."

I concur that interdivisional stuff is hard on xkorinate. I've done it for one of my leagues, where I did the entire season of the two separate divisions, then set it up as series of individual matches for Team A vs all of the teams in opposite division, then then just replace Team A with B, C...etc. It takes a bit of time to get the end result info--W/D/L/GF/GA/Pts--sorted for each team to add into the season table.
TG me and I can explain it better if you're interested.

[Ontorisa]

Any scorinators for the newest mac? I've tried using xkorinator, but it's out of date.

[Osarius]

Any scorinators for the newest mac? I've tried using xkorinator, but it's out of date.

You can run xkoranate in a virtual machine if your machine is running the latest macOS, I'm told.
I believe kalactin is working on a mobile port of xkoranate, too. But that probably won't be complete for a long time.

I'm not sure if NSFS 3 works on mac, but as it only requires the Java Runtime Environment, it might.
That's limited to football and american football, though, if I remember correctly. Maybe ice hockey?

[The Sarian]

Any scorinators for the newest mac? I've tried using xkorinator, but it's out of date.

You can run xkoranate in a virtual machine if your machine is running the latest macOS, I'm told.
I believe kalactin is working on a mobile port of xkoranate, too. But that probably won't be complete for a long time.

I'm not sure if NSFS 3 works on mac, but as it only requires the Java Runtime Environment, it might.
That's limited to football and american football, though, if I remember correctly. Maybe ice hockey?

Oh my god it does.

I've spent so long hand-scoring every game using Vilita's online scorinator, trying and failing to make VirtualBox work, finally finding a VM that works only for it to be prohibitively expensive after the free trial period. And then NSFS3 worked all along. I'm both celebrating and crying.

UPDATE: I got excited too early. Whilst it lets you open existing files, it doesn't let me start new leagues or cups. I've searched this forum and others have had the same issue, but I haven't seen anyone get a fix. Does anyone know one?

[Tequilo]

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I asked about this and had this from Liventia which I haven’t set up yet but certainly will work.

As an alternative, are you not able to partition your drive and install Mojave on the partition? You wouldn't need it to be very big if it's just xkoranate and a web browser to post scores. It's what I currently do (11.0.1 Big Sur boot drive, 10.14 Mojave on a partition).

[Northwest Kalactin]

UPDATE: I got excited too early. Whilst it lets you open existing files, it doesn't let me start new leagues or cups. I've searched this forum and others have had the same issue, but I haven't seen anyone get a fix. Does anyone know one?

Make sure that you have JRE installed on your Mac, version 5 or later. Another user was also having trouble with this, and they have not been able to find a fix later, which could be troubling. Also, make sure that your version of Java is running on 64-bit, rather than 32-bit.

If it is running on 32-bit, then key in:

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 java -d64 -jar nsfs301.jar

into a notepad or TextEdit file, and then save it as a file named “runNSFS.bat”, and place it in the NSFS “com” folder. If this doesn’t work, I’ll try it out on my Mac also, and see if NSFS has somehow stopped working on MacOS.

[Rokoroa]

Yeah, I am having the same problem as the Sarian- I have the most recent JRE installed but I can't run a new league. Sad day for us Mac users who are semi-ludditesque.

[Ontorisa]

Yeah, I am having the same problem as the Sarian- I have the most recent JRE installed but I can't run a new league. Sad day for us Mac users who are semi-ludditesque.

I still have my PC but I don't wanna use it because it's slow as hell.

[Silvedania]

Is there any scorinator compatible with Chromebooks?

[Hebitaka]

Is there any drafting simulator or player auction simulator out there?

[Garbelia]

I have just started chess up as an NS Sport again, and used a mostly random spreadsheet for the first tournament.

So that I know what to tell future hosts, and how to compile the rankings moving forward, what kind of ranking system does xkoranate use for chess, and would it be possible to reconfigure it to use proper chess rankings (approximately from 800 to 3101) with minimal effort/coding?

[Filindostan]

I have just started chess up as an NS Sport again, and used a mostly random spreadsheet for the first tournament.

So that I know what to tell future hosts, and how to compile the rankings moving forward, what kind of ranking system does xkoranate use for chess, and would it be possible to reconfigure it to use proper chess rankings (approximately from 800 to 3101) with minimal effort/coding?

You can use spreadsheets to compile the rankings. The usual pointing system for rankings here in NS Sports takes into the participant's previous n performances, usually 3, and the metric usually used is wins over the maximum number of matches the participant can have while in contention.

You may also use actual chess rankings as needed, and in xkoranate, this can be used to set the Minimum (although either never or very rarely used), and Maximum skill for the section used to insert the participants.


Of course for the tournament, you should be able to consider how the three R's (Rank, RP, and Randomness) will affect the scorination of chess matches, although that would be a separate discussion altogether.

[Lisander]

Is there any drafting simulator or player auction simulator out there?

A simple draft can be run with a spreadsheet or even with random.org. Just pair numbers to values.

Example:

John VeryGood is assigned number 1.
Anthony Rea Sonable is assigned number 2.
Paul V. Erybad is assigned number 3.

Team North is assigned number 1.
Eastern Team is assigned number 2.
Southwestern United is assigned number 3.

You just need to randomly generate the numbers.

[South Americanastan]

Does anyone have a scorinator compatible with chromebook? I'm thinking of starting a boxing championship, since NS hasn't had one in a bit