Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:40 pm
NVm, got it. My only question is: How do you determine skill? Should a user submit it? Use the rankings? IDK.
Because sometimes even national leaders just want to hang out
https://forum.nationstates.net/
North Prarie wrote:NVm, got it. My only question is: How do you determine skill? Should a user submit it? Use the rankings? IDK.
Amuaplye wrote:Every time I try to scorinate a triple jump (Men's and Women's) event on xkoranate, it crashes. Everything goes well, and the once I click the dice button to scorinate, it crashes.
South Toronto wrote:HI, I've been thinking of making a football tournament but I have no idea how to set skill, and if you use current rankings how would you do that?
Free Republics wrote:South Toronto wrote:HI, I've been thinking of making a football tournament but I have no idea how to set skill, and if you use current rankings how would you do that?
In xkoranate, just set the max skill to whatever the highest rank+bonus is and enter the total directly into skill. Leave the min skill at 0. You can ignore the "bonus" section of xkoranate completely unless you're hosting the Olympics or another multi-sport event.
If you're using SQIS (or any formula based upon SQIS), the max skill doesn't matter. If you're using NSFS, setting the max skill too high causes lots of randomness.
North Prarie wrote:Free Republics wrote:
In xkoranate, just set the max skill to whatever the highest rank+bonus is and enter the total directly into skill. Leave the min skill at 0. You can ignore the "bonus" section of xkoranate completely unless you're hosting the Olympics or another multi-sport event.
If you're using SQIS (or any formula based upon SQIS), the max skill doesn't matter. If you're using NSFS, setting the max skill too high causes lots of randomness.
Wait, so if the highest rank is 1 (top ranking) plus bonus, would it be 1.75, or 43.75? (43 would be lowest rank besides UR)
North Prarie wrote:When I copy pasted the table into the [pre] code, it looked weird. Why is this??
Commonwealth of Baker Park wrote:So, I know we had a discussion in the NSCF discussion thread about getting scoring increased a little bit. I just did a comparison with an 8 team, 10 game setup between the current NSFS_3 and the world bowl formula that was posted there. I used the SQIS as a control. I kept the skill of the teams between 2.5 and 3.3 on a min/max scale of 1-5. I gave all the teams a bonus roughly in an inverse proportion to their skill level and assigned style fairly even between 0 and +3.
I kept the same setting across the board and then used the NSFS_3 with IFAF OT
finally I adjusted the the styles a bit to narrow the gap to +1 and +2.4 and cut the bonus for each about 40-60%. I left the skill level the same, but changed the min/max range to 2-4.
Let's just compare the week 1 from the control test and the World Bowl formula test, shall we?
not much a difference at all, you see....
here's the final table for another comparison to the other tables
Yes COOL was meant to be the worst team although I doubled their skill and cut their bonus less than the rest of them for the third go-round. But you'll note how bunched together everyone is, and some of the scores made no sense at all--take a look and compare these 2 scores from week 2 of the WB with the results from the week prior above:
I don't know if this will impress anyone, I did it for my own benefit to see how to to set up parameter for my domestic stuff. But comments and questions are welcome.
Schiltzberg wrote:Hello, I tried downloading some of these scorinators, but it just downloaded them as zip files, and I do not know how to actually use them from there. Also worth noting, I am using a Chromebook, which might not be capable of doing scorinators.
According to Wikipedia, Chromebooks run Chrome OS and I'm unaware of any downloadable scorinator that works with it. (Under other Linux distributions, the source code and the compatible compilers can be downloaded so the program is built from that.) You might be able to use something that's hosted online and/or an online spreadsheet.Schiltzberg wrote:Hello, I tried downloading some of these scorinators, but it just downloaded them as zip files, and I do not know how to actually use them from there. Also worth noting, I am using a Chromebook, which might not be capable of doing scorinators.
Schiltzberg wrote:This may be a dumb question, but it just downloaded as a text file, so how do I open it as an application?
95X wrote:According to Wikipedia, Chromebooks run Chrome OS and I'm unaware of any downloadable scorinator that works with it. (Under other Linux distributions, the source code and the compatible compilers can be downloaded so the program is built from that.) You might be able to use something that's hosted online and/or an online spreadsheet.Schiltzberg wrote:Hello, I tried downloading some of these scorinators, but it just downloaded them as zip files, and I do not know how to actually use them from there. Also worth noting, I am using a Chromebook, which might not be capable of doing scorinators.
It's probably also worth mentioning that the scorinators we have today are the result of those skilled in computer programming being members of the NS Sports community and programming them.Free Republics wrote:Just as an aside, given how often questions about running scorinators on devices other than PCs come up, I'd actually be interested, I think, in creating a general web-based scorinator with a database, user accounts and all the features you'd need to host tournaments (plus ideally the ability to create the equivalent of xkoranate's XML files) but I wouldn't want to spend money to host it.