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by North Prarie » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:40 pm
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by Free Republics » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:11 pm
North Prarie wrote:NVm, got it. My only question is: How do you determine skill? Should a user submit it? Use the rankings? IDK.
by Razenthuria » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:30 pm
by Amuaplye » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:18 pm
Amuaplye wrote:Every time I try to scorinate a triple jump (Men's and Women's) event on xkoranate, it crashes. Everything goes well, and the once I click the dice button to scorinate, it crashes.
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by Osarius » Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:59 am
by South Toronto » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:41 am
by Free Republics » Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:29 am
South Toronto wrote:HI, I've been thinking of making a football tournament but I have no idea how to set skill, and if you use current rankings how would you do that?
by North Prarie » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:08 am
Free Republics wrote:South Toronto wrote:HI, I've been thinking of making a football tournament but I have no idea how to set skill, and if you use current rankings how would you do that?
In xkoranate, just set the max skill to whatever the highest rank+bonus is and enter the total directly into skill. Leave the min skill at 0. You can ignore the "bonus" section of xkoranate completely unless you're hosting the Olympics or another multi-sport event.
If you're using SQIS (or any formula based upon SQIS), the max skill doesn't matter. If you're using NSFS, setting the max skill too high causes lots of randomness.
SBT BottomLine-President Valieant welcomes first child Pax, Social Democrats gain big wins in Parliament elections, Lions win NPBL, Cavaliers win Prarie Hockey Cup, NPFA announces slow move away from world affairs
by Darmen » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:43 am
North Prarie wrote:Free Republics wrote:
In xkoranate, just set the max skill to whatever the highest rank+bonus is and enter the total directly into skill. Leave the min skill at 0. You can ignore the "bonus" section of xkoranate completely unless you're hosting the Olympics or another multi-sport event.
If you're using SQIS (or any formula based upon SQIS), the max skill doesn't matter. If you're using NSFS, setting the max skill too high causes lots of randomness.
Wait, so if the highest rank is 1 (top ranking) plus bonus, would it be 1.75, or 43.75? (43 would be lowest rank besides UR)
by North Prarie » Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:29 pm
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by Drawkland » Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:29 pm
North Prarie wrote:When I copy pasted the table into the [pre] code, it looked weird. Why is this??
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by North Prarie » Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:32 pm
SBT BottomLine-President Valieant welcomes first child Pax, Social Democrats gain big wins in Parliament elections, Lions win NPBL, Cavaliers win Prarie Hockey Cup, NPFA announces slow move away from world affairs
by Drawkland » Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:36 pm
United Dalaran wrote:Goddammit, comrade. I just knew that someday some wild, capitalist, imperialist interstellar empire will swallow our country.CN on the RMB wrote:drawkland's leader has survived so many assassination attempts that I am fairly certain he is fidel castro in disguise
by Commonwealth of Baker Park » Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:46 pm
Pld W L PF PA Win %
1 Endover 10 6 4 109 96 0.600
2 Baker Park 10 6 4 150 136 0.600
3 A&M 10 6 4 124 138 0.600
4 OSH 10 5 5 124 140 0.500
5 USL 10 5 5 171 155 0.500
6 UC 10 5 5 267 172 0.500
7 EZR 10 4 6 152 146 0.400
8 COOL 10 3 7 94 208 0.300
Pld W L PF PA Win %
1 Endover 10 7 3 215 158 0.700
2 OSH 10 6 4 198 161 0.600
3 EZR 10 6 4 218 141 0.600
4 UC 10 6 4 189 180 0.600
5 USL 10 5 5 187 166 0.500
6 A&M 10 5 5 161 204 0.500
7 Baker Park 10 4 6 161 196 0.400
8 COOL 10 1 9 113 236 0.100
Pld W L PF PA
1 USL 10 7 3 417 365
2 Endover 10 7 3 313 234
3 A&M 10 6 4 342 317
4 OSH 10 5 5 352 253
5 UC 10 5 5 282 373
6 Baker Park 10 4 6 318 312
7 EZR 10 4 6 309 324
8 COOL 10 2 8 242 397
by Northwest Kalactin » Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:51 pm
Commonwealth of Baker Park wrote:So, I know we had a discussion in the NSCF discussion thread about getting scoring increased a little bit. I just did a comparison with an 8 team, 10 game setup between the current NSFS_3 and the world bowl formula that was posted there. I used the SQIS as a control. I kept the skill of the teams between 2.5 and 3.3 on a min/max scale of 1-5. I gave all the teams a bonus roughly in an inverse proportion to their skill level and assigned style fairly even between 0 and +3.SQIS with sudden death
Pld W L PF PA Win %
1 Endover 10 6 4 109 96 0.600
2 Baker Park 10 6 4 150 136 0.600
3 A&M 10 6 4 124 138 0.600
4 OSH 10 5 5 124 140 0.500
5 USL 10 5 5 171 155 0.500
6 UC 10 5 5 267 172 0.500
7 EZR 10 4 6 152 146 0.400
8 COOL 10 3 7 94 208 0.300
I kept the same setting across the board and then used the NSFS_3 with IFAF OTNSFS-3 with IFAF OT
Pld W L PF PA Win %
1 Endover 10 7 3 215 158 0.700
2 OSH 10 6 4 198 161 0.600
3 EZR 10 6 4 218 141 0.600
4 UC 10 6 4 189 180 0.600
5 USL 10 5 5 187 166 0.500
6 A&M 10 5 5 161 204 0.500
7 Baker Park 10 4 6 161 196 0.400
8 COOL 10 1 9 113 236 0.100
finally I adjusted the the styles a bit to narrow the gap to +1 and +2.4 and cut the bonus for each about 40-60%. I left the skill level the same, but changed the min/max range to 2-4.
Let's just compare the week 1 from the control test and the World Bowl formula test, shall we?week 1--SQIS
A&M 20–10 USL
Baker Park 24–30 UC
COOL 24–9 OSH
EZR 7–10 Endoverweek 1--NSFS
A&M 20–27 USL
Baker Park 3–30 UC
COOL 10–20 OSH
EZR 24–13 Endoverweek 1--World bowl
Endover 60–34 EZR
Baker Park 89–16 USL
UC 43–40 OSH
COOL 43–35 A&M
not much a difference at all, you see....
here's the final table for another comparison to the other tablesWB with sudden death
Pld W L PF PA
1 USL 10 7 3 417 365
2 Endover 10 7 3 313 234
3 A&M 10 6 4 342 317
4 OSH 10 5 5 352 253
5 UC 10 5 5 282 373
6 Baker Park 10 4 6 318 312
7 EZR 10 4 6 309 324
8 COOL 10 2 8 242 397
Yes COOL was meant to be the worst team although I doubled their skill and cut their bonus less than the rest of them for the third go-round. But you'll note how bunched together everyone is, and some of the scores made no sense at all--take a look and compare these 2 scores from week 2 of the WB with the results from the week prior above:USL 66–29 UC
Endover 56–19 Baker Park
I don't know if this will impress anyone, I did it for my own benefit to see how to to set up parameter for my domestic stuff. But comments and questions are welcome.
by Schiltzberg » Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:52 am
by Darmen » Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:00 pm
Schiltzberg wrote:Hello, I tried downloading some of these scorinators, but it just downloaded them as zip files, and I do not know how to actually use them from there. Also worth noting, I am using a Chromebook, which might not be capable of doing scorinators.
by 95X » Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:37 pm
According to Wikipedia, Chromebooks run Chrome OS and I'm unaware of any downloadable scorinator that works with it. (Under other Linux distributions, the source code and the compatible compilers can be downloaded so the program is built from that.) You might be able to use something that's hosted online and/or an online spreadsheet.Schiltzberg wrote:Hello, I tried downloading some of these scorinators, but it just downloaded them as zip files, and I do not know how to actually use them from there. Also worth noting, I am using a Chromebook, which might not be capable of doing scorinators.
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by Schiltzberg » Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:43 pm
by Free Republics » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:22 pm
Schiltzberg wrote:This may be a dumb question, but it just downloaded as a text file, so how do I open it as an application?
95X wrote:According to Wikipedia, Chromebooks run Chrome OS and I'm unaware of any downloadable scorinator that works with it. (Under other Linux distributions, the source code and the compatible compilers can be downloaded so the program is built from that.) You might be able to use something that's hosted online and/or an online spreadsheet.Schiltzberg wrote:Hello, I tried downloading some of these scorinators, but it just downloaded them as zip files, and I do not know how to actually use them from there. Also worth noting, I am using a Chromebook, which might not be capable of doing scorinators.
by 95X » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:08 am
It's probably also worth mentioning that the scorinators we have today are the result of those skilled in computer programming being members of the NS Sports community and programming them.Free Republics wrote:Just as an aside, given how often questions about running scorinators on devices other than PCs come up, I'd actually be interested, I think, in creating a general web-based scorinator with a database, user accounts and all the features you'd need to host tournaments (plus ideally the ability to create the equivalent of xkoranate's XML files) but I wouldn't want to spend money to host it.
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by Schiltzberg » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:39 am
by Darmen » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:08 am
Tobiasia wrote:How do you use scorinators?
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