World Baseball Classic 52- Signups (CLOSED)

[World Baseball Classic]

Greetings, World Baseball Classic Council! It is time to go to the polls for two matters at hand!

1) Vote for the World Baseball Classic 52 hosts. We have received one bid. It is from Ko-oren and Hannasea

Members of the Council (linked in signature) can vote to either:

ACCEPT the bid
to RE-OPEN bids
or to formally ABSTAIN.

2) Nominate Presidental Candidates. My term ends after WBC 52, and I am not eligible to be re-elected. Members of the Council may nominatee any other members of the Council to serve as President. (If any Council member does not wish to be nominated, please post your intent in the discussion thread).

For each matter, please send your vote to this nation, World Baseball Classic, by 8pm EDT on Friday, August 6th.

[Fondalma]

In if there are still spots.

[Murderbum]

Bollonich shall be withdrawing as we shall take their place!

[Bollonich]

Bollonich shall be withdrawing as we shall take their place!

confirmed

[Eshialand]

Withdrawing. My time is very sadly limited in the next few weeks, and I don't want to start RPing a completely new sport with all-new characters right in the middle of it.

[Ethane]

Tentative sign-up. I can't promise RP levels (#jobhunting), but Ethane's got a future in the WBC and I need something to do over the next few weeks.

[Gim]

I want to sign up.

[The Kytler Peninsulae]

...well I guess this is the place for the (latest) Kytlerian return to international sport.

[Daehae]

In.

[World Baseball Classic]

The time to vote for ended, and now let's look at the results!

1) Host Vote for World Baseball Classic 52:
Accept the Bid from Ko-oren and Hannasea: 7 votes
Re-open bids: 8 votes
Abstain: 0 votes

As such, it's time to go back to the drawing board. New bids may be submitted and Ko-oren and Hannasea are welcome to submit a revised bid in some capacity. Let's try to do this by Wednesday, August 11th, at 8pm EDT.

2) Presidental Nominations
Receiving at least 2 nominations for President are:

Nova Anglicana
South Newlandia
Ko-oren

Since there will be another host vote, we will hold the Presidential vote at the same time.

[Venmere]

Venmere WBC Host Bid

Venmere is pleased to bid to host the WBC 52. The nation, which has a rich athletic history, though not hugely on the international scale, would like to host its first major international tournament.

FORMAT: Venmere is prepared to host anywhere between 30 and 54 teams, but if necessary we may be able to push higher.
30 teams: 6 groups of 5, with the top 2 in each group and the 4 best 3rd place teams advancing.
32 teams: 8 groups of 4, with the top 2 in each group advancing.
35 teams: 7 groups of 5 with the top 2 in each group and the 2 best 3rd place teams advancing.
36 teams: 6 groups of 6, with the top 2 in each group and the 4 best 3rd place teams advancing
40 teams: 8 groups of 5, with the top 3 in each group advancing
42 teams: 6 groups of 7, with the top 2 in each group and the 4 best 3rd place teams advancing.
45 teams: 9 groups of 5, with the top 2 in each group and the 6 best 3rd place teams advancing.
48 teams: 8 groups of 6, with the top 3 in each group advancing.
50 teams: 10 groups of 5, with the top 2 in each group and the 4 best 3rd place teams advancing.
54 teams: 9 groups of 6, with the top 2 in each group and the 6 best 3rd place teams advancing.

If there are 24 teams in the playoffs, there will be a first round with the 8 best teams receiving byes and the other 16 playing. The play-in round of the tournament, if there is one, will consist of 3-game series. The first and second rounds will be 5-game series, while the semifinals and finals will be 7-game series.

TIEBREAKERS: Record, Head-to-head wins, point difference, wins against highest-ranked common opponent in same group, total points scored, total points allowed

SCORINATION: I have a formula and programs I have written to simulate games. I will use my baseball one for this tournament. RP bonus will, of course, be factored into the scorination, as well as WBC rank and other factors.

EXPERIENCE: I've never hosted a major international tournament before. I reached the quarterfinals of the International Baseball Slam XIV, and I have hosted four soccer tournaments (the "Peregrine Cup") out of the forums. I am eager to start my hosting experience with the WBC 52.

SOME NOTES: Using my own formula may raise concerns about me forcing my own team to win. In addition to this, I will be scorinating all games involving my own team. To calm fears, I will note that my baseball team has played in exactly one international tournament, and if it wins the championship or even makes a deep run, you will know something is fishy. My team is not high-caliber level.

Feel free to ask me any questions about anything in this bid, and thank you for considering me!

[Quebec and Shingoryeo]

I'll keep this straightforward - What scorination experience do you have to warrantee hosting a large sized tournament, the one that often does triple-scorination in a single MD, in WBC?

[Hapilopper]

What is your scorination program, and what is your formula?

[Kohnhead]

Venmere, we certainly all appreciate your enthuiasm at hosting this tournament.

In the case of new hosts we often like to say, try hosting a smaller tournament before you jump into a big one like this without any hosting experience. If you are planning to use your own scorinator that we've never seen I'd also certainly recommend hosting a small test tournament just to show how it works. I'm glad to see you trying to get engaged with this but I'd recommend starting smaller and in a few cycles you can certainly be hosting a tournament like this.

[Venmere]

I'll keep this straightforward - What scorination experience do you have to warrantee hosting a large sized tournament, the one that often does triple-scorination in a single MD, in WBC?

As my experience section says, I've hosted some small tournaments in my own nation. In addition to this, I am the President of the ATA Olympic Committee and am in charge of scorinating soccer, baseball, basketball, etc. at the ATA Olympic Games.

[Venmere]

Venmere, we certainly all appreciate your enthuiasm at hosting this tournament.

In the case of new hosts we often like to say, try hosting a smaller tournament before you jump into a big one like this without any hosting experience. If you are planning to use your own scorinator that we've never seen I'd also certainly recommend hosting a small test tournament just to show how it works. I'm glad to see you trying to get engaged with this but I'd recommend starting smaller and in a few cycles you can certainly be hosting a tournament like this.

I have hosted several small tournaments, though they have not been on the forums. I have been watching hosts and looking back through the last 50 WBCs to see how the hosts run things, and I feel ready.

[Sarzonia]

Your (complete lack of) experience does not warrant your hosting a tournament of this size and complexity.

I'd welcome a bid if you had smaller tournaments under your belt first. Right now, I wouldn't feel comfortable turning the keys over to you.

[Venmere]

Your (complete lack of) experience does not warrant your hosting a tournament of this size and complexity.

I'd welcome a bid if you had smaller tournaments under your belt first. Right now, I wouldn't feel comfortable turning the keys over to you.

All right, although I fail to see how I will get to host a smaller tournament if I lack experience, while hosting a smaller tournament is the very experience I lack.

[Sarzonia]

Hosting smaller tournaments gives you technical know-how to operate scorinators, but more importantly, it gives you experience in evaluating roleplays from people with varying writing styles and skill levels.

It gives you the experience to handle things like players who don't follow another person's permissions or two RP'ers who RP the same match within minutes of each other and neither one is willing to change their interpretation of the game. It gives you precedent for handling issues like plagiarism and other issues experienced hosts here face on a regular basis.

We're not saying never try to bid. We're just saying we need to see more experience with smaller competitions first before jumping into the deep end.

[Hannasea]

It's not clear to me whether you're proposing the group stages be series or not.

What is your scorination program, and what is your formula?

Seconded. This is much more important than the question of experience!

[Super-Llamaland]

As my experience section says, I've hosted some small tournaments in my own nation. In addition to this, I am the President of the ATA Olympic Committee and am in charge of scorinating soccer, baseball, basketball, etc. at the ATA Olympic Games.

Would you mind providing links to these tournaments / wherever the ATA Olympic Committee results are posted so we can see what you've been like as a host in the past, and what sorts of competitions you've helped administrate?

[Venmere]

It's not clear to me whether you're proposing the group stages be series or not.

What is your scorination program, and what is your formula?

Seconded. This is much more important than the question of experience!

I was not proposing the group stage be series, but now that I think about it I think they would be.

I understand your reticence, and if I was in all of your positions, I would feel uncomfortable with me hosting as well. The ATA Olympics, which take place next month, will take place on the forums and you can get a look at my hosting style as well as my formula there.

I can see that I was jumping the gun a little. I just got so excited about hosting an event that I never realized how farfetched it would be for me to host. It's kind of like Liechtenstein trying to host the World Cup. It's not that, given time, they couldn't. It's that currently, I can't imagine how they would and I would think they would do a terrible job. So I'll withdraw my bid, but look for me again come WBC 55 or 56!

[The Sherpa Empire]

It's not clear to me whether you're proposing the group stages be series or not.

Seconded. This is much more important than the question of experience!

I was not proposing the group stage be series, but now that I think about it I think they would be.

I understand your reticence, and if I was in all of your positions, I would feel uncomfortable with me hosting as well. The ATA Olympics, which take place next month, will take place on the forums and you can get a look at my hosting style as well as my formula there.

I can see that I was jumping the gun a little. I just got so excited about hosting an event that I never realized how farfetched it would be for me to host. It's kind of like Liechtenstein trying to host the World Cup. It's not that, given time, they couldn't. It's that currently, I can't imagine how they would and I would think they would do a terrible job. So I'll withdraw my bid, but look for me again come WBC 55 or 56!

If you are planning to use your own scorinator in future hosting, I think sharing the scorinator and letting people try it out might help build confidence in it.

[Chromatika]

Chromatik Bid to Host the 52nd WBC

Sponsored By:

The Chromatika Sports Commission, along with the Regional Transit Corporation of Banija, is bidding to host the 52nd WBC.

Chromatik National Info:
A group of islands located in the far northeast of Anaia, Chromatika is a land finally getting back on its feet after overcoming an apartheid caste system and going through a messy first free election. Gone are the days of the Chromatik Party through the efforts of the Rainbow Revolution; the Rainbow Party, under the new leadership of Keri Wyse Aart, is making strides on correcting past wrongs and uniting the Chromatik populace to be one people working toward the same goal.

A very strict nation in terms of recreation, smoking of any drug is banned in Chromatika to Chromatiks; any visitors are to express their intent before entering the nation. Drinking is allowed but only in moderation at designated restaurants and bars; personal possession of alcohol in one’s residence is also prohibited.

Please fly to Anaia, namely Ramusok (Cosumar), Quebec City (Quebec and Shinguryeo), Cathair (Audioslavia), or Jhanna (Starblaydia) before flying to Chromia.

Format:
I believe we are at 56 nations or thereabouts. 60 teams would be ideal - 10 groups of 6 - but we can make 56 work

With sixty, we'd have ten groups of six with top three plus two best fourth placed teams to be in the Round of Thirty Two

There will be eight groups of seven, and the top two in each group will advance to the Round of Sixteen.

The playoffs will be held in Chromatika consisting of best-of-five series, except for the final, which will be best-of-seven, as always. Playoff series will be scored two games at a time, except the final game if necessary. The bracket will be seeded, with no reseeding in between rounds. Teams that played against each other in the group stage will only be able to play against each other starting with the second knock-out round. Cutoff will be almost every day, with a few rest days in between (Likely after MD4, after MD8).
The tiebreakers for both group stage advancement and playoff seeding will be, in this order: Group Stage placement (only for Playoff seeding), wins, H2H results, H2H run differential, overall run differential, RP Bonus (IC coin flip), OOC coin flip. If a tie between multiple teams must be broken and one team wins the tiebreaker at any stage, while the remaining teams are still tied, the tiebreakers start at the top of the list again to break the tie between the remaining teams.

Scorination and RP Bonus:
I plan to run the tournament in groups of six playing a double-round robin, with each of those being a series of three games. The group table will be scored by using three concurrent double round-robins, and using the Table Generator function in xkoranate to compile the results. This also allows all games involving Chromatika and Le Choix to be scored by a third party, as I can just input that result into the Group Table. Cutoff will happen between 10PM and 11PM Pacific Time.

Host experience:
WCC events: Cohost of WC 88, BoF 46, BoF 73, and CoH 52, CR 11 (as Falconfar), AOCAF 53, Cohost of AOCAF 59
Also: 12th U-18 WC, WCoH 18 and WBC 36, WB 41, IBC 32, Playoffs of NSCF 22, NSCF 23, and NSCAA 12

Other Notes:
Banija's involvement is IC only, as he will not be helping me host the event. The IBC should be all but done by the time the WBC starts, so I won't have any issues with having too much on my plate. As for the playoffs of the NSCF, the cutoff for that is 9:30 PM, so there shouldn't be an issue. If another bid comes to fruition before the vote, and I deem it to be a great bid, I reserve the right to retract this bid. (Mostly, I'm worried about this not getting completed for too long, and do think that the WBC is an important competition that needs to have its time in the spotlight. I'm willing to host it, but if someone else comes along and wants to try, all the power to them.)

[Cassadaigua]

Thank you for the bid, Chromatika!
I've been notified another is in the works too, so I am not going to cut this process off right away.