Aussie Rules World Cup I Signups thread

[United Civil Republic]

Division Games was a typo, it should have said Group Games. What you are asking about is a singular determinate used as a TieBreaker, and it will only look at the win percentage against games played within their Group, not those outside. I would use a Strength of Group formula rather than a Strength of Scheule.

In the format you propose, teams will only play against teams in their group. So unless I severely misunderstand what "strength of schedule" means, this just isn't applicable because all teams in a group will have the same schedule. Your example does not help, it doesn't explain how the ties in standings are actually being broken.

OP: I don't really know how to make this more clear, the only general exception that you may be talking about is when we only have one grouping, and that just uses a slightly adapted system, but it's really not much different. And as far as Tie-Bresaker goes, there is a list that determines seeding. You go down the list, once a team preforms better, they win the tie-breaker.

And an American Football Wildcard Game is just a way to knock out an odd-numbered team from a Play-Offs system.

Does this just mean that teams who are tied in the standings will play an extra match (or an extra round robin) between them with the winner advancing to the next round?

If I have 5 teams, I am going to take 3 teams to the Play-Offs, not 2. It gives me an odd-number and we will play an extra play-off game.

[West Pocono]

The tournament participants asked you what your experience was, so please answer that.

I hope it's not this three team league you did last year, that had a table like this:
Nation Team Pld W D L PF PA PD
United Civil Republic Colts 8 4 1 3 245 194 51
Bear Territory Bears 9 5 1 2 244 226 18
Saeythian Eagles Eagles 7 2 0 4 176 235 -59

That table would mean 665 points for and 655 points against, so you didn't use xkoranate for this; as total points for and total points against would always equal.
Is there another tournament the interested parties should be looking at?

[United Civil Republic]

The tournament participants asked you what your experience was, so please answer that.

I hope it's not this three team league you did last year, that had a table like this:
Nation Team Pld W D L PF PA PD
United Civil Republic Colts 8 4 1 3 245 194 51
Bear Territory Bears 9 5 1 2 244 226 18
Saeythian Eagles Eagles 7 2 0 4 176 235 -59

That table would mean 665 points for and 655 points against, so you didn't use xkoranate for this; as total points for and total points against would always equal.
Is there another tournament the interested parties should be looking at?

This is in reference to a set I did for a regional. I did not use xkoranate for this as it was to small to be worth the time to run it, I did a basic sim. Now then, the OP asked for my experience and I reached out to them and expressed it. Thank you for your concern, but I have responded to all inquiries placed to my bid.

In answer to your question, I have not officially hosted any tournaments in the Forums, but I am not without experience. I hosted other regional and inter-regional systems back at the end of last year. Otherwise I am a new host. And we all have to start somewhere.

[Mathuvan Union]

The tournament participants asked you what your experience was, so please answer that.

I hope it's not this three team league you did last year, that had a table like this:
Nation Team Pld W D L PF PA PD
United Civil Republic Colts 8 4 1 3 245 194 51
Bear Territory Bears 9 5 1 2 244 226 18
Saeythian Eagles Eagles 7 2 0 4 176 235 -59

That table would mean 665 points for and 655 points against, so you didn't use xkoranate for this; as total points for and total points against would always equal.
Is there another tournament the interested parties should be looking at?

This is in reference to a set I did for a regional. I did not use xkoranate for this as it was to small to be worth the time to run it, I did a basic sim. Now then, the OP asked for my experience and I reached out to them and expressed it. Thank you for your concern, but I have responded to all inquiries placed to my bid.

In answer to your question, I have not officially hosted any tournaments in the Forums, but I am not without experience. I hosted other regional and inter-regional systems back at the end of last year. Otherwise I am a new host. And we all have to start somewhere.

can we have a 'song of the game' then?

[United Civil Republic]

can we have a 'song of the game' then?

This is in reference to a set I did for a regional. I did not use xkoranate for this as it was to small to be worth the time to run it, I did a basic sim. Now then, the OP asked for my experience and I reached out to them and expressed it. Thank you for your concern, but I have responded to all inquiries placed to my bid.

In answer to your question, I have not officially hosted any tournaments in the Forums, but I am not without experience. I hosted other regional and inter-regional systems back at the end of last year. Otherwise I am a new host. And we all have to start somewhere.

Hm?

[Mathuvan Union]

Hm?

arggghh put it in the wrong spot edited it now

[United Civil Republic]

Hm?

arggghh put it in the wrong spot edited it now

I'm not against doing it, if that's what the majority of participants want, but that was more of a Discord thing.

[Mathuvan Union]

arggghh put it in the wrong spot edited it now

I'm not against doing it, if that's what the majority of participants want, but that was more of a Discord thing.

ah rightio

[Sylestone]

Just a friendly reminder that this is an interest and signup thread, not a discussion one.

[Baggieland]

Just a friendly reminder that this is an interest and signup thread, not a discussion one.

Mega-apologies for continuing this discussion, but I feel we need to draw a line under this, so we can get on with our rosters and begin the tournament.

Here's my official +1 for UCR being the host.

UCR has regional hosting experience and as they rightly said:

we all have to start somewhere.

UCR has a scorinator and knows how to use it. The only thing I'm worried about is the suggested format which seems complicated and there's also mention of an American football style decider, which is alien to me.

My suggestion is as follows. Bearing in mind that there are 11 confirmed interested nations, I suggest all 11 teams play each other in a league format. We can either play each other home and away, which produces 20 matchdays. Or the 11 teams can play each other once, producing 10 matchdays, five at home - five away. I prefer 10 matchdays as I found the 24 game football world cup qualifiers a bit too much.

Once the league format is complete, the top four teams go straight into the semi-finals, to be played at the host nation. This way, I believe, is closer to how the RL AFL season works.

The main thing that needs to be decided is how to separate teams on the same points after the league format is concluded.

Those are my thoughts.

I'd like to see this tournament up and running asap, sorry for my impatience!

[United Civil Republic]

Just a friendly reminder that this is an interest and signup thread, not a discussion one.

Mega-apologies for continuing this discussion, but I feel we need to draw a line under this, so we can get on with our rosters and begin the tournament.

Here's my official +1 for UCR being the host.

UCR has regional hosting experience and as they rightly said:

we all have to start somewhere.

UCR has a scorinator and knows how to use it. The only thing I'm worried about is the suggested format which seems complicated and there's also mention of an American football style decider, which is alien to me.

My suggestion is as follows. Bearing in mind that there are 11 confirmed interested nations, I suggest all 11 teams play each other in a league format. We can either play each other home and away, which produces 20 matchdays. Or the 11 teams can play each other once, producing 10 matchdays, five at home - five away. I prefer 10 matchdays as I found the 24 game football world cup qualifiers a bit too much.

Once the league format is complete, the top four teams go straight into the semi-finals, to be played at the host nation. This way, I believe, is closer to how the RL AFL season works.

The main thing that needs to be decided is how to separate teams on the same points after the league format is concluded.

Those are my thoughts.

I'd like to see this tournament up and running asap, sorry for my impatience!

My apologies for my continuing this as well, and I ask all that we end this here, but I want to thank Baggieland for his comments and suggestions, and I also would like to see us moving along asap too, I am very impatient as well.

[Sylestone]

Mega-apologies for continuing this discussion, but I feel we need to draw a line under this, so we can get on with our rosters and begin the tournament.

Here's my official +1 for UCR being the host.

UCR has regional hosting experience and as they rightly said:


UCR has a scorinator and knows how to use it. The only thing I'm worried about is the suggested format which seems complicated and there's also mention of an American football style decider, which is alien to me.

My suggestion is as follows. Bearing in mind that there are 11 confirmed interested nations, I suggest all 11 teams play each other in a league format. We can either play each other home and away, which produces 20 matchdays. Or the 11 teams can play each other once, producing 10 matchdays, five at home - five away. I prefer 10 matchdays as I found the 24 game football world cup qualifiers a bit too much.

Once the league format is complete, the top four teams go straight into the semi-finals, to be played at the host nation. This way, I believe, is closer to how the RL AFL season works.

The main thing that needs to be decided is how to separate teams on the same points after the league format is concluded.

Those are my thoughts.

I'd like to see this tournament up and running asap, sorry for my impatience!

My apologies for my continuing this as well, and I ask all that we end this here, but I want to thank Baggieland for his comments and suggestions, and I also would like to see us moving along asap too, I am very impatient as well.

As we haven’t had many signups over the past few days, I will bring the closure forward to 26 June (one week from now). Ultimately, the format is 100% up to the host, but I strongly suggest a league like this, too, especially if we don’t get a set number of teams that UCR suggested in his host bid. Also remember that due to a miscalculation of mine, there are actually twelve teams signed up at present.

[Northwest Kalactin]

]Just my 2 cents here on the thoughts of Baggieland

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UCR has regional hosting experience

Yes, but it was clear he did not use a scorinator for the tournament, which worries me about his hosting abilities.

UCR has a scorinator and knows how to use it.

Again, we never really saw that he was able to use a scorinator in his competition, it would make sense for him to do a domestic league first, instead of jumping right into a minor world championship.

My suggestion is as follows. Bearing in mind that there are 11 confirmed interested nations, I suggest all 11 teams play each other in a league format. We can either play each other home and away, which produces 20 matchdays. Or the 11 teams can play each other once, producing 10 matchdays, five at home - five away. I prefer 10 matchdays as I found the 24 game football world cup qualifiers a bit too much.

I really don’t think this format will work for a competition like this, it would make sense to run a host vote, and then have an either 12 or 16 team tournament. With a group stage with 4 or 6 teams per group.

. This way, I believe, is closer to how the RL AFL season works.

Yes, but this isn’t a domestic league. Usually world championships don’t happen over the course of half a year in RL

I believe I have been one of the biggest critics of UCRs hosting abilities lately. Therefore, I will be signing up if UCR is the host.

[Baggieland]

Yes, but this isn’t a domestic league. Usually world championships don’t happen over the course of half a year in RL

The last cricket world cup was done this way. Ten teams played each other once - producing a round robin league table - the top four went into the semis. So it has been done.

[Megistos]

My apologies for my continuing this as well, and I ask all that we end this here, but I want to thank Baggieland for his comments and suggestions, and I also would like to see us moving along asap too, I am very impatient as well.

As we haven’t had many signups over the past few days, I will bring the closure forward to 26 June (one week from now). Ultimately, the format is 100% up to the host, but I strongly suggest a league like this, too, especially if we don’t get a set number of teams that UCR suggested in his host bid. Also remember that due to a miscalculation of mine, there are actually twelve teams signed up at present.

okay.

[Megistos]

Yes, but this isn’t a domestic league. Usually world championships don’t happen over the course of half a year in RL

The last cricket world cup was done this way. Ten teams played each other once - producing a round robin league table - the top four went into the semis. So it has been done.

NZ should have won!

[Baggieland]

NZ should have won!

Fantastic final, wasn't it? But the 'right' team won.

[Megistos]

NZ should have won!

Fantastic final, wasn't it? But the 'right' team won.

yea

[Ko-oren]

Three cents on how long World Cups should last:
- The (football) WC85 qualifiers are insane for lasting 26 matchdays, and I don't think anyone wants that for another sport, especially one that's not as established on here.
- Sure, the RL Cricket WC had ten matchdays followed by semis, but the scheduling and intensity of cricket make that far more possible than, say, for Aussie Rules (but I think the at the end of Baggie's post means that they already knew that).
- For this tournament, I'd look towards other sports of its caliber, say Field Hockey, or Quidditch, and make far smaller groups. Small sports + long tournament tend to equal very little to no RP involvement down the stretch, leading to non-RPing teams in the knockouts, or even non-RPing teams in the final. I'd recommend to go for engagement and a short tournament over a marathon that very, very few players are committed to.

- Let it be known that the wrong team won the Cricket World Cup (do not take this bullet point too seriously). Also, where my associate teams at, ICC?

[Lisander]

I'm pre-confirming my puppet, Alice Bay, if it's still time for this.

[Halaethaed Commune]

I sign up.

[Alice Bay]

I'm pre-confirming my puppet, Alice Bay, if it's still time for this.

Ditto. Alice Bay is much more like Aussie than Lisander.

[Sylestone]

This thread is now CLOSED for signups. Now if you have signed up, (or if you are Northwest Kalactin, due to their terms of participation), you may vote for who hosts the inaugural Aussie Rules World Cup!
The options are:
United Civil Republic
Re-open bidding

To bid, telegram me before this time Monday (4pm AEST).

[Sylestone]

The bidding unfolded as follows:

United Civil Republic: 3
Re-open Bidding: 0

Therefore, congratulations to United Civil Republic for winning the bidding and becoming the hosts of the inaugural Aussie Rules WC!

[Baggieland]

the inaugural Aussie Rules WC!

Are you going to create a new 'everything' thread for rosters and RPs?