NASJAR 2 Signups/Discussion Thread

[Jebslund]

Hello again.

As part of an RP idea that I've had rattling around my head, the national government of New England is ICly requesting that the race we are hosting be scheduled immediately after the one in Cassadaigua.

I'm posting about it on the forum instead of TGing in case other people want to refer to it in their RPs. And I'm posting it in the sign-up thread so I can put it out there before the schedule is set.

I will consider it, but, without IC reasons being given, the order of races will be randomly determined, with the exception of the Chase races, which will be determined based on who makes the cut. It's ICly done for reasons of fairness.


Bear this in mind: the better the IC reasons, the better the chances of the request being approved.

[The Selkie]

Hello again.

As part of an RP idea that I've had rattling around my head, the national government of New England is ICly requesting that the race we are hosting be scheduled immediately after the one in Cassadaigua.

I'm posting about it on the forum instead of TGing in case other people want to refer to it in their RPs. And I'm posting it in the sign-up thread so I can put it out there before the schedule is set.

I will consider it, but, without IC reasons being given, the order of races will be randomly determined, with the exception of the Chase races, which will be determined based on who makes the cut. It's ICly done for reasons of fairness.


Bear this in mind: the better the IC reasons, the better the chances of the request being approved.

Short question, Jebs: Can we already post here?

[Jebslund]

Short question, Jebs: Can we already post here?

You *can*, but I haven't pinned any races to the dartboard yet, nor have I completely worked out the schedule or even decided if I'm going to run an exhibition like I did last season or not (I'm leaning toward not, seeing as there's ten races not counting the Chase already, but I do like the idea of getting in a dry run before the official start of season.). My preference would be that people at least wait for the deadline to hit, but I'm not going to penalise anyone for jumping the gun.

Short answer: Nothing's stopping you.

[Vangaziland]

I'm thinking of an early post also, mainly to start establishing the characters.

[The Transmondian Commonwealth]

Hello again.

As part of an RP idea that I've had rattling around my head, the national government of New England is ICly requesting that the race we are hosting be scheduled immediately after the one in Cassadaigua.

I'm posting about it on the forum instead of TGing in case other people want to refer to it in their RPs. And I'm posting it in the sign-up thread so I can put it out there before the schedule is set.

I will consider it, but, without IC reasons being given, the order of races will be randomly determined, with the exception of the Chase races, which will be determined based on who makes the cut. It's ICly done for reasons of fairness.


Bear this in mind: the better the IC reasons, the better the chances of the request being approved.

It's just for logistical convenience. We intend to provide transportation between Brattleboro, Cassadaigua and Laconia, New England.

[The Selkie]

Short question, Jebs: Can we already post here?

You *can*, but I haven't pinned any races to the dartboard yet, nor have I completely worked out the schedule or even decided if I'm going to run an exhibition like I did last season or not (I'm leaning toward not, seeing as there's ten races not counting the Chase already, but I do like the idea of getting in a dry run before the official start of season.). My preference would be that people at least wait for the deadline to hit, but I'm not going to penalise anyone for jumping the gun.

Short answer: Nothing's stopping you.

Alright, I'll wait until Tuesday, then.

[Jebslund]

I will consider it, but, without IC reasons being given, the order of races will be randomly determined, with the exception of the Chase races, which will be determined based on who makes the cut. It's ICly done for reasons of fairness.


Bear this in mind: the better the IC reasons, the better the chances of the request being approved.

It's just for logistical convenience. We intend to provide transportation between Brattleboro, Cassadaigua and Laconia, New England.

While that's helpful, it's assumed the teams and/or their sponsors have the means to get their team members and equipment from place to place. Are there any other IC reasons?

[The Transmondian Commonwealth]

It's just for logistical convenience. We intend to provide transportation between Brattleboro, Cassadaigua and Laconia, New England.

While that's helpful, it's assumed the teams and/or their sponsors have the means to get their team members and equipment from place to place. Are there any other IC reasons?

The Commonwealth is spread across several parallel worlds, and the overwhelming majority of it, including the site of the race, is not in the same world as any other NS nation. We assume that other nations do not all have the means to travel between worlds, so we intend to provide transportation.

[Jebslund]

While that's helpful, it's assumed the teams and/or their sponsors have the means to get their team members and equipment from place to place. Are there any other IC reasons?

The Commonwealth is spread across several parallel worlds, and the overwhelming majority of it, including the site of the race, is not in the same world as any other NS nation. We assume that other nations do not all have the means to travel between worlds, so we intend to provide transportation.

... Okay, can we not make this out to be more complicated than it needs be, please? I get it. Your nation is multiversal/multitemporal. But the assumption still holds. Most of the nations outside this event don't even necessarily share a continuity outside NS Sports. The assumption in NS sports is that everyone can get to everyone else. If you want to RP providing transport to and from your nation, go for it, but that doesn't necessitate your race being in a specific spot in the order. That's what I'm trying to get across to you.

[The Black Party]

Are participants required to write 5 paragraph, detailed, overly-in-depth RPs that nobody will ever read?

[Kyrenaia]

Are participants required to write 5 paragraph, detailed, overly-in-depth RPs that nobody will ever read?

If it is anything like last time - and Jebs, please correct me, if I am wrong - it will certainly raise your chances of winning. Besides, there's always the possibility of working together with other players to write magnificent posts.
That was a major part of the fun of last time.

[The Transmondian Commonwealth]

The Commonwealth is spread across several parallel worlds, and the overwhelming majority of it, including the site of the race, is not in the same world as any other NS nation. We assume that other nations do not all have the means to travel between worlds, so we intend to provide transportation.

... Okay, can we not make this out to be more complicated than it needs be, please? I get it. Your nation is multiversal/multitemporal. But the assumption still holds. Most of the nations outside this event don't even necessarily share a continuity outside NS Sports. The assumption in NS sports is that everyone can get to everyone else. If you want to RP providing transport to and from your nation, go for it, but that doesn't necessitate your race being in a specific spot in the order. That's what I'm trying to get across to you.

I'm withdrawing from this whole thing then.

It's one thing if I have to figure out how to make my canon work with other people's. It's something else to have my canon overridden. You don't get to tell me that people can travel to my nation by means that I say will not work.

Everyone has permission to RP about my nation unexpectedly withdrawing.

You do NOT under any circumstance have permission to scorinate races with my characters in them, to hold races in my nation, or to make any reference to people visiting my nation by means that do not involve traveling through a portal. My pilots and my course need to be removed.

[Jebslund]

Are participants required to write 5 paragraph, detailed, overly-in-depth RPs that nobody will ever read?

In my experience, those RPs do get read. If you look at the NSSCRA 7 RP thread, you'll notice a few running jokes and/or one-off moments that resulted from one player reading another's post and reacting to/playing off of it. NASJAR 1 also had the running story of a saboteur that sprang out of one player explaining a particularly poor result, if memory serves.

That said, while Kyrenaia is correct that it will increase your chances, you don't have to write long, super-in-depth RPs if you do not wish to, or RP at all, but the idea of a bonus for RP is to encourage people to RP, and, while I'm not expecting the next great [your nationality here] novel, I do expect *some* effort if you want the RP bonus. A one liner simply won't do unless it's a good one that you clearly put effort and thought into.

I'm withdrawing from this whole thing then.

It's one thing if I have to figure out how to make my canon work with other people's. It's something else to have my canon overridden. You don't get to tell me that people can travel to my nation by means that I say will not work.

Everyone has permission to RP about my nation unexpectedly withdrawing.

You do NOT under any circumstance have permission to scorinate races with my characters in them, to hold races in my nation, or to make any reference to people visiting my nation by means that do not involve traveling through a portal. My pilots and my course need to be removed.

That is unfortunate, but it's your decision. I'm not going to organize my event that you voluntarily signed up for (and withdrew from) around your insistence that you be in a certain spot in the order.

For the record, I had no intention of specifying how everyone was going to get to your nation or "overriding your canon". The assumption that the other nations have the means to get to yours means nothing more or less than, "For the sake of conservation of detail and not making things more complicated than they need be, everyone is assumed to have access to what they need to get there, be it planes, boats, trains, portals, magical unicorns that fart rainbows on Tuesdays only, etc.". The idea is that, if they need a portal to get there, the portal has been set up and they went through it, with no special ordering required.

This isn't a war roleplay. It's a SPORTING EVENT. How the competitors get to your nation is, quite frankly, not important enough to bottleneck the RP by requiring your post to do so. Good RP fodder though it may be, it's not necessary to the event to know that a portal had to be set up to get everyone there and back. It's an interesting detail. It's unique in the canons of the nations I'm aware of here. It would have been fun to RP. But it's not *important*. Half the nations here, like I pointed out, don't even share a continuity or a world outside NS Sports. Heck, *most* of the RPs in NS sports involve nations that don't even interact outside of NS Sports. I even recall seeing an interstellar empire in at least one such thread.

[The Transmondian Commonwealth]

Are participants required to write 5 paragraph, detailed, overly-in-depth RPs that nobody will ever read?

In my experience, those RPs do get read. If you look at the NSSCRA 7 RP thread, you'll notice a few running jokes and/or one-off moments that resulted from one player reading another's post and reacting to/playing off of it. NASJAR 1 also had the running story of a saboteur that sprang out of one player explaining a particularly poor result, if memory serves.

That said, while Kyrenaia is correct that it will increase your chances, you don't have to write long, super-in-depth RPs if you do not wish to, or RP at all, but the idea of a bonus for RP is to encourage people to RP, and, while I'm not expecting the next great [your nationality here] novel, I do expect *some* effort if you want the RP bonus. A one liner simply won't do unless it's a good one that you clearly put effort and thought into.

I'm withdrawing from this whole thing then.

It's one thing if I have to figure out how to make my canon work with other people's. It's something else to have my canon overridden. You don't get to tell me that people can travel to my nation by means that I say will not work.

Everyone has permission to RP about my nation unexpectedly withdrawing.

You do NOT under any circumstance have permission to scorinate races with my characters in them, to hold races in my nation, or to make any reference to people visiting my nation by means that do not involve traveling through a portal. My pilots and my course need to be removed.

That is unfortunate, but it's your decision. I'm not going to organize my event that you voluntarily signed up for (and withdrew from) around your insistence that you be in a certain spot in the order.

For the record, I had no intention of specifying how everyone was going to get to your nation or "overriding your canon". The assumption that the other nations have the means to get to yours means nothing more or less than, "For the sake of conservation of detail and not making things more complicated than they need be, everyone is assumed to have access to what they need to get there, be it planes, boats, trains, portals, magical unicorns that fart rainbows on Tuesdays only, etc.".

This isn't a war roleplay. It's a SPORTING EVENT. How the competitors get to your nation is, quite frankly, not important enough to bottleneck the RP by requiring your post to do so. Good RP fodder though it may be, it's not necessary to the event to know that a portal had to be set up to get everyone there and back. It's an interesting detail. It's unique in the canons of the nations I'm aware of here. It would have been fun to RP. But it's not *important*. Half the nations here, like I pointed out, don't even share a continuity or a world outside NS Sports. Heck, *most* of the RPs in NS sports involve nations that don't even interact outside of NS Sports. I even recall seeing an interstellar empire in at least one such thread.

What insistence that I be in a certain spot in the order? The schedule is not why I'm withdrawing. I'm withdrawing because of you dictating people's ability to get to my nation without respect for my location or their tech level. The schedule is just something for the government to grump about if you don't accommodate them. Dictating the accessibility of my nation is an unacceptable breach of player autonomy, and it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth that you have made this much of a stink about a really fucking simple request instead of either accommodating it or having the NASJAR organizers say they can't accommodate it because reasons.

There would not have been an RP bottleneck because I would have explained the situation early enough for people to have the info they needed before it was time to go. In fact, most of the relevant info is already here in this thread before sign-ups are even closed.

But it's all kind of moot now. You need to update the RP thread and get my stuff out of it.

[Jebslund]

In my experience, those RPs do get read. If you look at the NSSCRA 7 RP thread, you'll notice a few running jokes and/or one-off moments that resulted from one player reading another's post and reacting to/playing off of it. NASJAR 1 also had the running story of a saboteur that sprang out of one player explaining a particularly poor result, if memory serves.

That said, while Kyrenaia is correct that it will increase your chances, you don't have to write long, super-in-depth RPs if you do not wish to, or RP at all, but the idea of a bonus for RP is to encourage people to RP, and, while I'm not expecting the next great [your nationality here] novel, I do expect *some* effort if you want the RP bonus. A one liner simply won't do unless it's a good one that you clearly put effort and thought into.



That is unfortunate, but it's your decision. I'm not going to organize my event that you voluntarily signed up for (and withdrew from) around your insistence that you be in a certain spot in the order.

For the record, I had no intention of specifying how everyone was going to get to your nation or "overriding your canon". The assumption that the other nations have the means to get to yours means nothing more or less than, "For the sake of conservation of detail and not making things more complicated than they need be, everyone is assumed to have access to what they need to get there, be it planes, boats, trains, portals, magical unicorns that fart rainbows on Tuesdays only, etc.".

This isn't a war roleplay. It's a SPORTING EVENT. How the competitors get to your nation is, quite frankly, not important enough to bottleneck the RP by requiring your post to do so. Good RP fodder though it may be, it's not necessary to the event to know that a portal had to be set up to get everyone there and back. It's an interesting detail. It's unique in the canons of the nations I'm aware of here. It would have been fun to RP. But it's not *important*. Half the nations here, like I pointed out, don't even share a continuity or a world outside NS Sports. Heck, *most* of the RPs in NS sports involve nations that don't even interact outside of NS Sports. I even recall seeing an interstellar empire in at least one such thread.

What insistence that I be in a certain spot in the order? The schedule is not why I'm withdrawing. I'm withdrawing because of you dictating people's ability to get to my nation without respect for my location or their tech level. The schedule is just something for the government to grump about if you don't accommodate them. Dictating the accessibility of my nation is an unacceptable breach of player autonomy, and it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth that you have made this much of a stink about a really fucking simple request instead of either accommodating it or having the NASJAR organizers say they can't accommodate it because reasons.

There would not have been an RP bottleneck because I would have explained the situation early enough for people to have the info they needed before it was time to go. In fact, most of the relevant info is already here in this thread before sign-ups are even closed.

But it's all kind of moot now. You need to update the RP thread and get my stuff out of it.

I'm not dictating the accessibility of your nation. I'm saying that logistics is not a reason to approve the request because the standing assumption is that your nation has no reason to deny access to competitors, and so would do what is needed to facilitate the arrival of the competitors. I'm sorry if you misunderstood or if I was unclear. Yes, technically, your nation could decide, "No, we're not summoning the portals", but it makes absolutely no sense for them to do so for a sporting event they wanted to host a race in. It's not removing player agency. It's making a rather logical assumption for the sake of simplicity.

As to updating the OP, I need to get into a different account to do so, and am waiting to see if The Black Party decides to sign up. Since I don't want to have to log in multiple times, once I get an answer on that or the deadline hits, I will update the OP. Do not tell me what I do and don't need to do. Wait for it to be done.

[The Transmondian Commonwealth]

What insistence that I be in a certain spot in the order? The schedule is not why I'm withdrawing. I'm withdrawing because of you dictating people's ability to get to my nation without respect for my location or their tech level. The schedule is just something for the government to grump about if you don't accommodate them. Dictating the accessibility of my nation is an unacceptable breach of player autonomy, and it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth that you have made this much of a stink about a really fucking simple request instead of either accommodating it or having the NASJAR organizers say they can't accommodate it because reasons.

There would not have been an RP bottleneck because I would have explained the situation early enough for people to have the info they needed before it was time to go. In fact, most of the relevant info is already here in this thread before sign-ups are even closed.

But it's all kind of moot now. You need to update the RP thread and get my stuff out of it.

I'm not dictating the accessibility of your nation. I'm saying that logistics is not a reason to approve the request because the standing assumption is that your nation has no reason to deny access to competitors, and so would do what is needed to facilitate the arrival of the competitors. I'm sorry if you misunderstood or if I was unclear. Yes, technically, your nation could decide, "No, we're not summoning the portals", but it makes absolutely no sense for them to do so for a sporting event they wanted to host a race in. It's not removing player agency. It's making a rather logical assumption for the sake of simplicity.

As to updating the OP, I need to get into a different account to do so, and am waiting to see if The Black Party decides to sign up. Since I don't want to have to log in multiple times, once I get an answer on that or the deadline hits, I will update the OP. Do not tell me what I do and don't need to do. Wait for it to be done.

It ICly incurs a bunch of extra traveling expenses if people have to travel by a less convenient route. I gave you an IC reason for an IC request by my government. For you to tell me that such an issue doesn't exist absolutely is dictating the accessibility of my nation and overriding my player autonomy. You're taking an IC justification for an IC action and telling me it's not valid.

[Jebslund]

I'm not dictating the accessibility of your nation. I'm saying that logistics is not a reason to approve the request because the standing assumption is that your nation has no reason to deny access to competitors, and so would do what is needed to facilitate the arrival of the competitors. I'm sorry if you misunderstood or if I was unclear. Yes, technically, your nation could decide, "No, we're not summoning the portals", but it makes absolutely no sense for them to do so for a sporting event they wanted to host a race in. It's not removing player agency. It's making a rather logical assumption for the sake of simplicity.

As to updating the OP, I need to get into a different account to do so, and am waiting to see if The Black Party decides to sign up. Since I don't want to have to log in multiple times, once I get an answer on that or the deadline hits, I will update the OP. Do not tell me what I do and don't need to do. Wait for it to be done.

It ICly incurs a bunch of extra traveling expenses if people have to travel by a less convenient route. I gave you an IC reason for an IC request by my government. For you to tell me that such an issue doesn't exist absolutely is dictating the accessibility of my nation and overriding my player autonomy. You're taking an IC justification for an IC action and telling me it's not valid.

And I'm saying those expenses are not reason enough to shift the schedule, because those expenses will be covered anyway (Saying that it's not important to the story isn't the same as saying it's not existent). No team would enter the event if they couldn't afford to be in it, nor would any sponsor sponsor the event if they couldn't afford to sponsor it. The most convenient route would be a circle if they were all on the same world, but the course order is randomized (and your race ended up being the race before, anyway, when I put the courses through the randomizer. The numbers beside the courses are the order I put them in the randomizer, not the order they'll be run. Apologies if that wasn't clear.). I have already mentioned the order being random for IC reasons. No one else seems to have a problem with that, or, if they do, they've yet to speak up. No one, to my knowledge, had a problem with that last season. Neither I nor any other players, to my knowledge, in Newmanistan's NSSCRA 6 or 7 had a problem with the assumption that everyone can get to everyone else and any details could be explained in RP or OOC.

You are basically throwing a fit because you want to have it explicitly stated out that your nation is a special place that can only be accessed from one point in the world, so that race has to be the one right before yours or else people won't be able to get to it. That is taking agency from other players by forcing them to have to explicitly justify their nations getting to yours unless I change the schedule to suit your plot. You want me to basically ignore everyone else's canon to suit yours, and add factors to the RP that are not important to the event at hand. That's not happening. If you are willing to accept my decision, fine. If not, fine. Either way, I'm tired of this thread being derailed by an argument that doesn't need to be happening over a detail that could easily have just been left to the RP to sort out.

[The Transmondian Commonwealth]

It ICly incurs a bunch of extra traveling expenses if people have to travel by a less convenient route. I gave you an IC reason for an IC request by my government. For you to tell me that such an issue doesn't exist absolutely is dictating the accessibility of my nation and overriding my player autonomy. You're taking an IC justification for an IC action and telling me it's not valid.

And I'm saying those expenses are not reason enough to shift the schedule, because those expenses will be covered anyway (Saying that it's not important to the story isn't the same as saying it's not existent). No team would enter the event if they couldn't afford to be in it, nor would any sponsor sponsor the event if they couldn't afford to sponsor it. The most convenient route would be a circle if they were all on the same world, but the course order is randomized (and your race ended up being the race before, anyway, when I put the courses through the randomizer. The numbers beside the courses are the order I put them in the randomizer, not the order they'll be run. Apologies if that wasn't clear.). I have already mentioned the order being random for IC reasons. No one else seems to have a problem with that, or, if they do, they've yet to speak up. No one, to my knowledge, had a problem with that last season. Neither I nor any other players, to my knowledge, in Newmanistan's NSSCRA 6 or 7 had a problem with the assumption that everyone can get to everyone else and any details could be explained in RP or OOC.

You are basically throwing a fit because you want to have it explicitly stated out that your nation is a special place that can only be accessed from one point in the world, so that race has to be the one right before yours or else people won't be able to get to it. That is taking agency from other players by forcing them to have to explicitly justify their nations getting to yours unless I change the schedule to suit your plot. You want me to basically ignore everyone else's canon to suit yours, and add factors to the RP that are not important to the event at hand. That's not happening. If you are willing to accept my decision, fine. If not, fine. Either way, I'm tired of this thread being derailed by an argument that doesn't need to be happening over a detail that could easily have just been left to the RP to sort out.

I did not say that other people couldn't provide their own transportation if they have the means to do so; I just said where my nation is located. I did not say that transportation was dependent on the schedule being adjusted, only that it would be ICly inconvenient to travel from anywhere else. I did not tell you to ignore anyone else's canon.

Maybe nobody in NSSCRA ever made a request like this because none of us -- including me -- were playing nations that had an IC reason for such a request. And it was, once again, an IC request, not an OOC demand. But then you chose to make a mountain out of a molehill for the second time since I arrived in this thread, and I decided it wasn't worth it.

You can prattle on as much as you like about how nobody else ever made a request about the order of the schedule, but the fact is it was a pretty simple request that could have been easily accommodated or declined without you making such a big deal about it.

[Vangaziland]

Transmodian. Relax. Jebslund is not saying anything out of the ordinary. Keep this in mind. Even if the results weren't right next to each other, you could have still RP'd that there were only 1 or 2 ways into your nation. The way to do that is through RP. If they were on different weeks, so what? If you explained that there was only one way in through an RP, I would have responded in kind.

I suggest you calm down. I've left a tournament before. So you made your choice. Embrace it. Start by discontinuing this rant.

[Jebslund]

And I'm saying those expenses are not reason enough to shift the schedule, because those expenses will be covered anyway (Saying that it's not important to the story isn't the same as saying it's not existent). No team would enter the event if they couldn't afford to be in it, nor would any sponsor sponsor the event if they couldn't afford to sponsor it. The most convenient route would be a circle if they were all on the same world, but the course order is randomized (and your race ended up being the race before, anyway, when I put the courses through the randomizer. The numbers beside the courses are the order I put them in the randomizer, not the order they'll be run. Apologies if that wasn't clear.). I have already mentioned the order being random for IC reasons. No one else seems to have a problem with that, or, if they do, they've yet to speak up. No one, to my knowledge, had a problem with that last season. Neither I nor any other players, to my knowledge, in Newmanistan's NSSCRA 6 or 7 had a problem with the assumption that everyone can get to everyone else and any details could be explained in RP or OOC.

You are basically throwing a fit because you want to have it explicitly stated out that your nation is a special place that can only be accessed from one point in the world, so that race has to be the one right before yours or else people won't be able to get to it. That is taking agency from other players by forcing them to have to explicitly justify their nations getting to yours unless I change the schedule to suit your plot. You want me to basically ignore everyone else's canon to suit yours, and add factors to the RP that are not important to the event at hand. That's not happening. If you are willing to accept my decision, fine. If not, fine. Either way, I'm tired of this thread being derailed by an argument that doesn't need to be happening over a detail that could easily have just been left to the RP to sort out.

I did not say that other people couldn't provide their own transportation if they have the means to do so; I just said where my nation is located. I did not say that transportation was dependent on the schedule being adjusted, only that it would be ICly inconvenient to travel from anywhere else. I did not tell you to ignore anyone else's canon.

Maybe nobody in NSSCRA ever made a request like this because none of us -- including me -- were playing nations that had an IC reason for such a request. And it was, once again, an IC request, not an OOC demand. But then you chose to make a mountain out of a molehill for the second time since I arrived in this thread, and I decided it wasn't worth it.

You can prattle on as much as you like about how nobody else ever made a request about the order of the schedule, but the fact is it was a pretty simple request that could have been easily accommodated or declined without you making such a big deal about it.

You are the one who flipped out and pulled a, "I'm LEAVING!" fit when told the decision and the grounds upon which the decision was made. The decision *was* simply made. It was declined, the reason for the declining was given, and you were asked if there were any other reasons to consider. YOU chose to argue that my reasons were not sufficient. I explained why they were. You continued to lambast me. As for the first time, me requesting that all portions of your course be reasonably accessible is not "making a mountain out of a molehill". You had not specified the ground portals were there and a common thing. The way you had described the post, the portal thing sounded like an experimental thing. I objected on those grounds. You explained further. I approved once I had a clear picture. I am not a rubber stamp. I have the right to, and will, ask questions if something seems unworkable/not something the NASJAR officials would approve.

If you change your mind about leaving, you have until 1430 Arizona time tomorrow and are welcome back. If you do not, no further comment is needed, your decision will be respected. I am done having this argument.

The Transmondian Commonwealth, we are done here. As OP, I am saying that this discussion is over and any attempt to continue it will be considered posting past a ban from this thread. You are welcome to discuss the event, but NOT to continue this argument.

Transmodian. Relax. Jebslund is not saying anything out of the ordinary. I see no reason why people should fly to the Transmodian Commonwealth and then move to those other locations. You can have a company that offers transit. You cannot assume that most or even any of the teams or fans will utilize your service. There's no need to organize the schedule that way because of your company's transportation.

Now if you said it's because the nations are close and in the same region, then leave it at that.

Thank you.

[Vangaziland]

I edited my post after seeing there was a chain of messages explaining it. I can see what he says, but I think my edit addresses my view. As an RPer, it could still have been or still be RP'd even if they are separated race days. Just provide transport on different occasions. RPers will follow your lead. It's just better asked as an IC thing.

At the time of my post above, I figured you were just trying to sell plane tickets. Either way, Jebslund isn't saying anything worth a tirade.

[Jebslund]

I edited my post after seeing there was a chain of messages explaining it. I can see what he says, but I think my edit addresses my view. As an RPer, it could still have been or still be RP'd even if they are separated race days. Just provide transport on different occasions. RPers will follow your lead. It's just better asked as an IC thing.

At the time of my post above, I figured you were just trying to sell plane tickets. Either way, Jebslund isn't saying anything worth a tirade.

I may have also misspoken earlier. Suffice it to say, I'm not neurotypical, so there are times I phrase things in a way I think is perfectly clear but with slightly different meaning/connotation than intended. I also have a slight tendency to pull an Ulath and skip to the end of the thought chain without realizing I've done so.

[Jebslund]

NEW RULE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY: No portals or limited accessibility nations. I'm not dealing with this again.

I hate to make a rule that limits good RP fodder, but this entire business left a bad enough taste in my mouth that I'm just not dealing with it again.

EDIT: I will edit the post I originally stated this in once Moderation makes a decision, but, until then, I will note it here:

The Transmondian Commonwealth, as stated in Moderation, I, as OP, told you earlier you were welcome back on the condition that you not attempt to continue the argument. You have elected to continue. As a result, you are officially banned from this and any other NASJAR threads. No reply is needed.

[Jebslund]

2 hours 20 minutes until the deadline! There will be a exhibition round in Jebsheim as the starter, with the cutoff being an hour later Saturday. The rest of the schedule is TBD.

For the purposes of RP, the following pilots were never signed up:

18: Victoria Morris
39: Carl Labelle

Additionally, the following course was never registered:
The White Mountains

I am willing to reconsider if enough people want to RP them having suddenly pulled out before the start, but would prefer they be left out of the RP altogether.

[Kyrenaia]

2 hours 20 minutes until the deadline! There will be a exhibition round in Jebsheim as the starter, with the cutoff being an hour later Saturday. The rest of the schedule is TBD.
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So, we can post on the IC?