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Postby Polar Svalbard » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:39 am

Athara Magarat wrote:Frankly, I don't think there's anyone in Mesder, aside from Covonant, who has the places, budget or initiative to host the 2018 IFAF Western Isles Cup. And I don't think MSFC nations will step forward for this (prove me wrong, me fellas...)

I like Neg's joint proposal with Samu idea. Sad that DS's bid was a test not a true one.

I am all for Corindia based on dope graphics as well :P

Polar Svalbard would probably be able to but I have neither the want to do it, nor do I have the same talents to do as good or outshine Corindia.
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Postby Corindia » Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:20 pm

Polar Svalbard wrote:
Athara Magarat wrote:Frankly, I don't think there's anyone in Mesder, aside from Covonant, who has the places, budget or initiative to host the 2018 IFAF Western Isles Cup. And I don't think MSFC nations will step forward for this (prove me wrong, me fellas...)

I like Neg's joint proposal with Samu idea. Sad that DS's bid was a test not a true one.

I am all for Corindia based on dope graphics as well :P

Polar Svalbard would probably be able to but I have neither the want to do it, nor do I have the same talents to do as good or outshine Corindia.

For real though, if you or anyone else end up winning I can still make a logo for the event, so don't let that deter you

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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:58 pm

Edit: Added Michigonia's information and changed the opening paragraph.
Edit2: Now with a Corindia-certified logo.
Edit3: Added one more Stadium and fixed the formatting.
Here's the complete joint bid by myself and Michigonia for the host of the 2018 IFAF Isles Cup!

Northern Stars 2018 (United Republics and Michigonia)
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Venues

Dormill and Stiura

Ile-de-Avillon
Rémy de Launey Memorial Sadium
Capacity: 65,878
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Launey
Stade sur la Rivière
Capacity: 67,371
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Kapolder
ElektroBedrijf Stadion
Capacity: 65,829
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Veldzicht
Mistlicht-Studio Stadion
Capacity: 53,289
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Michigonia

Alland
Phillips Stadion
Capacity: 28,000
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Grottingon
Clayborne Arena
Capacity: 39,000
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Cortes
Rodrigo Estadio
Capacity: 62,300
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Postby Orsandia » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:01 pm

I would jump in the bidding process too, probably in attempt to lobby samu and Negrakita into forming a triple bid (Samu-Negrakitan-Orsandian) or trying to get someone like Ains to hop aboard, but a good chunk of my country is in serious unrest at the moment so such a bid would be hard to justify.
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:25 pm

Orsandia wrote:I would jump in the bidding process too, probably in attempt to lobby samu and Negrakita into forming a triple bid (Samu-Negrakitan-Orsandian) or trying to get someone like Ains to hop aboard, but a good chunk of my country is in serious unrest at the moment so such a bid would be hard to justify.

Good thing I’m not going through unrest ;P
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Postby Fahraxi » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:54 pm

I'd like put in a team too! Tag.

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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:59 pm

Fahraxi wrote:I'd like put in a team too! Tag.

I’ve got just the thread for you, the qualifying tournament for your confederation!

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=444959
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Postby Fahraxi » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:06 pm

Dormill and Stiura wrote:
Fahraxi wrote:I'd like put in a team too! Tag.

I’ve got just the thread for you, the qualifying tournament for your confederation!

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=444959

Ah, thank you very much!

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Postby Orsandia » Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:37 pm

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Announcing the formal joint bid by Orsandia and Ainslie to host the 2018 IFAF Isles Cup.


Orsandian Stadiums

Orsfield
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Orsburgh,Orsandia


Capacity: 54,074


Air Orsandia Stadium
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Guangfeng,Orsandia


Capacity: 55,074

Shengzhou Olympic Field
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Shengzhou,Orsandia


Capacity: 63,004

Amano Motorsports Field
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Yang Kong, Orsandia


Capacity: 57,454

Portino
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Portino, Orsandia


Capacity: 37,454


Ahnslen Stadiums
Munslen Stadium
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Arobai, Ainslie


Capacity: 43,454


Norland Stadium
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Arobai, Ainslie


Capacity: 42,564


Sunset Plaza
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Mandara, Ainslie


Capacity: 34,464

Lakeside Stadium
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Morissett, Ainslie


Capacity: 40,264


Anertah Stadium
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Anertah, Ainslie


Capacity: 11,264
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Postby Fahraxi » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:51 am

When is the ultimate deadline for putting in a team?

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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:50 am

Fahraxi wrote:When is the ultimate deadline for putting in a team?

3PM EST tomorrow for the host nation.I’ll post the survey and host vote tomorrow at that time or shortly sooner.

As for teams, I’m going to set a provisional limit for next Friday.
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Postby Agadar » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:31 pm

Dormill and Stiura wrote:
Fahraxi wrote:When is the ultimate deadline for putting in a team?

3PM EST tomorrow for the host nation.I’ll post the survey and host vote tomorrow at that time or shortly sooner.

As for teams, I’m going to set a provisional limit for next Friday.


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Postby Corindia » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:27 pm

I'm adding an addendum to my bid with stadium info because that seems to be the way to go:
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Capacity: 59k
City: Carmo

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Capacity: 60k
City: Stone Point

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Capacity: 107k
City: Via Azul

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Capacity: 72k
City: Greenwall

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Capacity: 52k
City: Balenamar

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Capacity: 84k
City: Gran Lago
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Postby Orsandia » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:53 pm

Agadar wrote:
Dormill and Stiura wrote:3PM EST tomorrow for the host nation.I’ll post the survey and host vote tomorrow at that time or shortly sooner.

As for teams, I’m going to set a provisional limit for next Friday.


Where do Gael nations sign up?


Hi Agadar,

Dorm and Mich are supposed to set up a thread for qualifiers this weekend concluding the GFA Champions League Final.
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:03 am

Orsandia wrote:
Agadar wrote:
Where do Gael nations sign up?


Hi Agadar,

Dorm and Mich are supposed to set up a thread for qualifiers this weekend concluding the GFA Champions League Final.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=445399

A few days late to what I said, but here is the GFA Qualifier. And now I have some questions to ask.

1) Considering Argus at this point is a lost cause with people taking their nations into other confederations, the IFAF has a bit of a problem getting to FIFA's 32 teams. Now as it stands there is a possibility to have all confederations get ten and then also find a way to add two more elsewhere, there's also a possibility of each confederation getting an uneven amount of berths to send to the cup based on the number of nations that reside in their confederation, this is the fairest option at the moment. Once that's dealt with, we can move on to set up the cup.

2) There are 15 active nations in the GFA, with the inactive Archvenland making 16. Unless Archvenland becomes active, I cannot use LeagueSim to construct the GFA Qualifier with all of the GFA's teams. Since I've learned a bit of xkornate, I can start advocating its use and using it, in this case, to perform the GFA Qualifier with all the nations in the area. The only issue I find in it now is whether or not it should be considered "legal" in the sense that it will be accepted at large by the community. Personally, as long as there is a way to reflect the skill scores used for LeagueSim into the skill points used in xkornate, there won't be a problem. Fortunately for me, I've already come up with one.

Xkornate has two places to put definitive numbers, skill and style. Skill is defined as the ability of the team to perform in general and can be scaled between any two numbers (for my purposes I've used the standard 1-10). The Style Point is defined as the team's orientation towards either attacking and defending on a scale from -5 (most defensive) to +5 (most offensive). What I propose is that the Skill point given is defined by the following equation: Skill Point = (Offensive Point + Defensive Point)/2. The Style Point will be determined by the much simpler equation: Style = Offensive Point - Defensive Point.

I'll use my National Team to give an example:

Offensive: 8
Defensive: 6

Skill = (8+6)/2 = 7
Style = 8-6 = 2

Therefore, on xkornate, when I add in the Dormill and Stiura National Team, I'll put skill at 7 and style at 2. Now I realize that due to the hard cap, this will produce teams with the same skill with only variations in style, but it will probably be for the better that xkornate is used as a supplement to LeagueSim if LeagueSim can't be used.
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Postby Orsandia » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:37 pm

Also since dorm has not mentioned, the deadline to submit host bids is now UP.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I have:

-Dormill and Stiura / Michigonia
- Samudera / Negrakita
- Ainslie / Orsandia
- Corindia

I will set up a google poll for it
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:59 pm

Orsandia wrote:Also since dorm has not mentioned, the deadline to submit host bids is now UP.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I have:

-Dormill and Stiura / Michigonia
- Samudera / Negrakita
- Ainslie / Orsandia
- Corindia

I will set up a google poll for it

https://goo.gl/forms/AQiupTGJsBT6JZ3V2

Did that in advance and forgot when I made lunch.

Samu and Neg didn’t submit an actual application so they aren’t counted.
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Postby Orsandia » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:11 pm

Dormill and Stiura wrote:
Orsandia wrote:Also since dorm has not mentioned, the deadline to submit host bids is now UP.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I have:

-Dormill and Stiura / Michigonia
- Samudera / Negrakita
- Ainslie / Orsandia
- Corindia

I will set up a google poll for it

https://goo.gl/forms/2uA6S8oKD9lIivvm2

Did that in advance and forgot when I made lunch.

Samu and Neg didn’t submit an actual application so they aren’t counted.


They indicated they would earlier throughout the week. I will make one exception and give them the benefit of the doubt. This will allow them to submit venues should they still want to compete.

-Bhik and Samu, you have limited time. Get on it.
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Postby Verdon » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:34 pm

So I'll go ahead and throw this out there, In the likely possibility that we get less than 32 teams to participate in the qualifiers, we ought to just nix the qualifier results. Call it a pre-season and get on with the big show.

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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:53 pm

Verdon wrote:So I'll go ahead and throw this out there, In the likely possibility that we get less than 32 teams to participate in the qualifiers, we ought to just nix the qualifier results. Call it a pre-season and get on with the big show.

Hopefully 32 or more people show up to the qualifiers but that’s nearly 90% of TWI’s map population, and I’ve yet to see that many people in a single UCR that isn’t massive do that.

So I’m hoping this changes things, otherwise the tournament will go on with a smaller roster.
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Postby Menna Shuli » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:28 pm

Dormill and Stiura wrote:
Verdon wrote:So I'll go ahead and throw this out there, In the likely possibility that we get less than 32 teams to participate in the qualifiers, we ought to just nix the qualifier results. Call it a pre-season and get on with the big show.

Hopefully 32 or more people show up to the qualifiers but that’s nearly 90% of TWI’s map population, and I’ve yet to see that many people in a single UCR that isn’t massive do that.

So I’m hoping this changes things, otherwise the tournament will go on with a smaller roster.

Asking for 32 was ridiculously ambitious, IMO.

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Postby Corindia » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:38 pm

Verdon wrote:So I'll go ahead and throw this out there, In the likely possibility that we get less than 32 teams to participate in the qualifiers, we ought to just nix the qualifier results. Call it a pre-season and get on with the big show.

Yeah, unless there's a major reassignment of berths everyone in CEFA is just going to get in by default

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Postby Orsandia » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:15 pm

Menna Shuli wrote:
Dormill and Stiura wrote:Hopefully 32 or more people show up to the qualifiers but that’s nearly 90% of TWI’s map population, and I’ve yet to see that many people in a single UCR that isn’t massive do that.

So I’m hoping this changes things, otherwise the tournament will go on with a smaller roster.

Asking for 32 was ridiculously ambitious, IMO.



It was also overly ambitious last year too. I think we got to 25-27 for the actual tourney. 32 for the big tourney seems kind of stretching it, but If we are aggressive with outreach, I think its doable. May be just my blind optimism though.
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Postby Verdon » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:45 pm

Orsandia wrote:It was also overly ambitious last year too. I think we got to 25-27 for the actual tourney. 32 for the big tourney seems kind of stretching it, but If we are aggressive with outreach, I think its doable. May be just my blind optimism though.

Yeah but that's the thing, if we want 32 in the final tourney, we have to have even more in the qualifiers and that I don't see happening.

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