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Postby Lisander » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:11 am

Vangaziland wrote:The back-to-back seasons add up. It was also good for me to relax off the chance, instead of going full greyhound mode. At least I should be more fresh for the WGP2.


Truth. But since we're talking about this: When will WGP2 start?
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Postby Audioslavia » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:08 am

An updated version of the Racing Scorinator is here. Anyone wanting to bid for WGP2 should have a look through it and figure out how it works. It's pretty much the same as the WGPC17 scorinator, which as Ethane will attest was fairly simple to run.

WGP2 bids should go here. There's no time limit.

There's still problems with the scorinator which I'd like to iron out, most notably the fact that the laptimes for race and qualifying are a little too random. This isn't a new problem, but it's one that's become more noticeable as the scorinator starts to spit out more data. It serves its purpose for now, though

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Postby Joushiki Nante Iranai » Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:27 pm

Hey Audio, I'm creating an article about the bidding being open for WGP2 hosting. What advise would you have for anyone that may be considering to make a bid?

Also, the WGPC nation CTE'd. Could the first post be edited, as WGPC17 was never added?

Edit: I'm also in the process of making a WGP3 event, but I'm concerned it may be considered gravedigging. It's fine if I post there once it starts, right?
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Postby Vangaziland » Fri Aug 09, 2019 3:26 pm

I can assure you posting in the WGP3 would not be gravedigging. It would be a great way for you to practice if you were ever interested in hosting the WGP2, or even the WGPC at this rate. It's considered open year round, I believe. Even if not, nothing else is in season so its the perfect time.

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Postby Joushiki Nante Iranai » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:10 am

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Postby Audioslavia » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:38 pm

That's very well done JNI, nice one! Sorry I didn't get back to you in time about WGP2 hosting requirements. They basically boil down to figuring out how the scorinator works and being free twice a weekend for scorinating.

Hosting a WGP3 series is excellent practice. That thread is always open. Have at it!

I'll revive the WGPC nation and update the OP when I next have time
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Postby Joushiki Nante Iranai » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:59 pm

Audioslavia wrote:That's very well done JNI, nice one! Sorry I didn't get back to you in time about WGP2 hosting requirements. They basically boil down to figuring out how the scorinator works and being free twice a weekend for scorinating.

Hosting a WGP3 series is excellent practice. That thread is always open. Have at it!

I'll revive the WGPC nation and update the OP when I next have time


Thank you very much! It's fine about the WGP2 requirements, by the way.

The WGP3 series I'm going to do is going to be one for my whole region, so I'm still doing signups. It'll probably start around September.
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Postby Aboveland » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:10 am

So what's the state of WGP22? Still waiting for bids?
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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:39 am

Aboveland wrote:So what's the state of WGP22? Still waiting for bids?

Aren't we on to WGP23? But yes, still awaiting bids.
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Postby Joushiki Nante Iranai » Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:37 pm

Announcement post for my WGP3 series is up!
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Postby Lisander » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:22 am

I'm not sure if I told people about that, but I'm thinking about a superbike series loosely based on Hodori Motorsports. This is for gathering interest.

If this one is not happening, I'd be up for a joint bid for WGP2 (I don't know if it's possible), starting from mid-october.

Shoot me a TG if you're interested in some participation/collaboration.
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Postby Vangaziland » Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:34 pm

A superbike event would be fun. I'd look forward to help develop the series IC through writing.

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Postby Audioslavia » Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:56 pm

Joushiki Nante Iranai wrote:Announcement post for my WGP3 series is up!


Looking good, JNI!

Lisander wrote:I'm not sure if I told people about that, but I'm thinking about a superbike series loosely based on Hodori Motorsports. This is for gathering interest.

If this one is not happening, I'd be up for a joint bid for WGP2 (I don't know if it's possible), starting from mid-october.

Shoot me a TG if you're interested in some participation/collaboration.


If we don't end up with a WGP2 bid by the end of the year then it could be run side by side with WGPC18. It would depend on whether the host(s) of WGPC18 would be up for scorinating the junior formula alongside the main event.

In any case, there's no strict timescale for either event. I 100% won't be hosting any racing competitions any time soon, though I have been working on an improved scorinator which will hopefully be up and running for the next cycle.

Good luck with the Superbikes, Lisander!
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Postby Former Citizens of the Nimbus System » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:34 pm

Audioslavia wrote:
Lisander wrote:If this one is not happening, I'd be up for a joint bid for WGP2 (I don't know if it's possible), starting from mid-october.

Shoot me a TG if you're interested in some participation/collaboration.

If we don't end up with a WGP2 bid by the end of the year then it could be run side by side with WGPC18. It would depend on whether the host(s) of WGPC18 would be up for scorinating the junior formula alongside the main event.

In any case, there's no strict timescale for either event. I 100% won't be hosting any racing competitions any time soon, though I have been working on an improved scorinator which will hopefully be up and running for the next cycle.

Hmm. In terms of the narrative that I'm thinking of (and the way that Nexus Racing does the WGP2 generally, treating it as a prototyping stage for the WGPC proper), I'd much prefer the WGP2 to be run prior to the WGPC... As such I would offer myself as a partner in this, Lisander, but I'm concerned that I a) wouldn't be able to be consistent with timings and b) wouldn't be able to grade RPs consistently enough, especially considering that I have a horse in the race. Even then, I might come round if things get late enough.
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Postby Audioslavia » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:48 pm

Former Citizens of the Nimbus System wrote:Hmm. In terms of the narrative that I'm thinking of (and the way that Nexus Racing does the WGP2 generally, treating it as a prototyping stage for the WGPC proper), I'd much prefer the WGP2 to be run prior to the WGPC...


Totally cool with me. Like I said, we can be flexible with timings. Back when I was running WGPC I had to do it all between January and May/June as I knew I wouldn't be about so much for the summer. Whoever takes it on can do it at their own pace.

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Postby Joushiki Nante Iranai » Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:45 am

Former Citizens of the Nimbus System wrote:
Audioslavia wrote:If we don't end up with a WGP2 bid by the end of the year then it could be run side by side with WGPC18. It would depend on whether the host(s) of WGPC18 would be up for scorinating the junior formula alongside the main event.

In any case, there's no strict timescale for either event. I 100% won't be hosting any racing competitions any time soon, though I have been working on an improved scorinator which will hopefully be up and running for the next cycle.

Hmm. In terms of the narrative that I'm thinking of (and the way that Nexus Racing does the WGP2 generally, treating it as a prototyping stage for the WGPC proper), I'd much prefer the WGP2 to be run prior to the WGPC... As such I would offer myself as a partner in this, Lisander, but I'm concerned that I a) wouldn't be able to be consistent with timings and b) wouldn't be able to grade RPs consistently enough, especially considering that I have a horse in the race. Even then, I might come round if things get late enough.


I'd like to help too, but I feel I'm not experienced enough yet.
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Postby Vilita and Turori » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:58 am

Former Citizens of the Nimbus System wrote:Hmm. In terms of the narrative that I'm thinking of (and the way that Nexus Racing does the WGP2 generally, treating it as a prototyping stage for the WGPC proper), I'd much prefer the WGP2 to be run prior to the WGPC...


I would respond with 2 things

1) Generally this approach is the opposite of reality. Feeder series generally run the same schedule and often at the same tracks as the top level divisions. Additionally the cars wouldnt be considered similar enough to be used for any direct prototyping from one level to another as the Top Level is generally 'a league of its own' while all lower levels of competition would struggle with cost limits and financial struggles many of which would drive the desire to run as support events on the same schedule as the main series.

2) This is NS, so none of #1 has to apply. Time is Fluid and Rules aren't that clearly defined. I would just avoid putting all of the rest of your competitors into a 'box' by trying to strictly define something that is either open for interpretation or generally 180-degrees opposite of what the expected position would be. Just take a "You do you" approach and try to generally fit things in the way that works for you without setting a precedent that starts imposing those standards on others and all will be well

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Postby Former Citizens of the Nimbus System » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:56 am

Vilita and Turori wrote:
Former Citizens of the Nimbus System wrote:Hmm. In terms of the narrative that I'm thinking of (and the way that Nexus Racing does the WGP2 generally, treating it as a prototyping stage for the WGPC proper), I'd much prefer the WGP2 to be run prior to the WGPC...


I would respond with 2 things

1) Generally this approach is the opposite of reality. Feeder series generally run the same schedule and often at the same tracks as the top level divisions. Additionally the cars wouldnt be considered similar enough to be used for any direct prototyping from one level to another as the Top Level is generally 'a league of its own' while all lower levels of competition would struggle with cost limits and financial struggles many of which would drive the desire to run as support events on the same schedule as the main series.

2) This is NS, so none of #1 has to apply. Time is Fluid and Rules aren't that clearly defined. I would just avoid putting all of the rest of your competitors into a 'box' by trying to strictly define something that is either open for interpretation or generally 180-degrees opposite of what the expected position would be. Just take a "You do you" approach and try to generally fit things in the way that works for you without setting a precedent that starts imposing those standards on others and all will be well

That all makes sense!
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Postby Vangaziland » Wed Sep 11, 2019 12:56 pm

Scheduling both events at the same time might not work for a lot of people. It would take a lot of writing to be competitive in both. Or someone could just write one article for each, but that's going to add up. Especially as other sports rotate over that long time span. I get that feeder series run congruent with F1 in real life. Still, that'd take a major effort. More likely, the WGP2 might just get less attention.

Imagine having to come up with two separate story lines, two race weekends, two-four driver reactions..... Unless we put them in the same forum. That would have to mean shared RP bonus, where articles count for both regardless of which side you mention. But that would be a lot for one host, so that likely wouldn't happen.

If it has to be skipped until after next WGPC, it wouldn't be so bad.
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Postby Joushiki Nante Iranai » Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:56 pm

Okay, I think I found a problem with qualifying in the scorinator.

I have my WGP3 cars set to 85% speed. Practice works - they do 2:24-2:26 laps for a 2:17.3 lap record. But in qualifying, the slowest is 2:24 - and the fastest is 2:17:334 (it's elimination qualifying). I feel like the speed modifier isn't being implemented here.

I'll post the qualifying, but if this did indeed happen, I'll manually increase the times to reflect the 85% speed. Also note that I haven't tested races yet.
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