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Postby Former Citizens of the Nimbus System » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:45 am

Haraba wrote:Hi I saw this and thought it looked kinda cool, how exactly does this stuff work? I'm genuinely interested.

Hi, Haraba! I assume that you're new to the NS Sports forum in general, since this is your first post; this is going to get a little complicated, so bear with me!

The WGPO, or World Grand Prix Organisation, can refer to both the group of users on NationStates responsible for running single-seater formula racing competitions (in the style of Formula 1, Formula 2 and so on) and the group of governing bodies, racing teams and drivers responsible for running single-seater formula racing competitions by the logic of the universe that those users have created.

To be more detailed about it: each year we collectively run two seasons: the WGPC, or World Grand Prix Championships, which is our equivalent of Formula 1, and the WGP2, or World Grand Prix Two, our equivalent of Formula 2. In each, someone is appointed to host the tournament (these days it's normally Audioslavia, though we're trying to divest much of his responsibility at the moment since it's a significant amount of work). Any user, new or not, is permitted to enter up to two drivers; meanwhile, the host selects about ten to a dozen teams normally entered by users with past experience (Sometimes particularly good team submissions from new users will be accepted too - that's how I got my start, actually!). There's then a period in which drivers compete to be offered drives with various teams; sometimes a driver is already signed to a team from the previous season, sometimes users will arrange things via telegram and then roleplay out the agreement, sometimes teams offer time trials to determine who they'll offer drives to and often recruitment will take the form of last-minute arrangements to make sure that a team has a full roster before racing begins! Of course, real life happens too and teams or, more often, drivers drop out mid-season, so there will be a few who join in later (like Jessica Franssen three years ago, Jean Mercer-Daly two years ago or Drake Stevenson in this WGPC season).

At this point, I should explain how the races are done! Circuits are also submitted and selected by the host before the season begins, each with certain characteristics represented by statistics attached to them by their creators. Teams and drivers also have their own statistics, known as 'RATings' because they list a team or driver's Reliability, Acceleration/Aggressiveness and Turning/Technical Ability. All of these come into play during races. Each one features practice, qualifying and race sessions just like Formula 1 (though qualifying types vary a little). To simulate these, the host runs a programme or, in our case, a spreadsheet known on NS Sports as a 'scorinator' designed to produce an outcome for each of these events semi-randomly. I say semi-randomly because the outcome of each practice, qualifying or race session is not fixed when the spreadsheet is activated but can be influenced. Remember those statistics? A circuit with lots of long straights and sweeping corners is going to favour the teams with cars that have a good Acceleration stat and drivers with a good Aggressiveness stat; drivers and teams with good Technical Ability and Turning stats, meanwhile, do better on twistier, more complex circuits. Reliability, meanwhile, reduces how prone a driver or team is to making mistakes on track or mechanical failure, represented in the scorinator by random losses or time or dropping out of the race entirely. There's also another factor involved: RP bonus, which is a hidden score that the host sets for how well they judge a user has roleplayed between each race which affects that user's team and driver(s). Altogether, the system is predictable enough for teams and drivers to consistently do better under certain conditions than others and for the characters whose users are roleplaying consistently and weaving entertaining stories to come out on top generally but unpredictable enough to create intrigue and drama much like a real racing season would ideally have!

After each race, the results are scored and each team and driver gets points towards the overall season and, after the final race, a Drivers' Champion and Constructors' Champion are crowned, just like a real racing season!

There's also WGP3, which is a far broader and more individual set of tournaments. Essentially, the scorinator for WGPC and WGP2 has been made available for general use and, as such, anyone who would like to can run their own regional competition, like junior single-seater racing categories. These are a significant undertaking, though, so if you'd like to get involved I would suggest doing one of two things. Firstly, the next WGP2 season will be starting relatively soon (the previous one started in July last year), so you'd be more than welcome to wait for a bit and submit a driver for that and a team as well if you're up for it! WGP2 tends to be a bit less competitive than the WGPC, so it's an excellent place to start. On the other hand, if you really can't wait and can find a team willing to swap out a driver for you, you could submit a driver for the current WGPC season; there are only four races left, so you're unlikely to win anything, but on the other hand there have been latecomers who have done very well in the WGPC! Either way would be awesome and I'd love to see you get involved!
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Postby WGPC » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:36 pm

Hey guys,

Practice and Qualifying are up.
Because of the delay, the race is going to be scorinated on Tuesday. Then the following week should be scored Saturday-Monday, but we'll keep you updated.

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Postby Aboveland » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:21 pm

I've done a strange. I hope it's relevant enough to make sense, though. I love writing Janne's character.

I'll try to get more nitty gritty racing stuff up tomorrow, though, feat. Terho and his friends TRÆ.
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Postby Former Citizens of the Nimbus System » Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:26 pm

Well, that cut off earlier than I'd planned for... Worry not - I'll still get the annual cover mashup out, as planned! I've had it ready for a few days now; just need to finish the post to which it's attached.

I believe that this means that Terho's only mathematically not won the Championship by now; there are three races left, meaning that Dimitrianov can only equal him on points and even then only if he wins every coming race without Terho scoring. Terho doesn't have the first place finishes to guarantee that Dimitrianov can't do that and win overall but, so long as he takes a single point, he's Drivers' Champion.

The same is almost true for the Constructors' Championship. VMR, Nexus Racing or Badai Angin must have one of their drivers win every one of the last three races with the other needing to score two seconds and a fourth or one second and two thirds at minimum to win - if TRÆ scores nothing. As for TRÆ themselves, they only need to score ten points collectively to claim the Constructors' title.

So, yeah. Congratulations, Aboveland, V&T! Mind you, the competition over second place is intense; three teams on equal points and the drivers' battle remarkably close in its own right... I'm certainly not letting up now!
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Postby Vilita and Turori » Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:08 pm

Former Citizens of the Nimbus System wrote:A lot of stuff about mathematical probabilities


...And the next race is in Vilita...

:) Looks like the biggest mistake of Terho's racing career was abandoning ole iBen!

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Postby Aboveland » Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:18 pm

Former Citizens of the Nimbus System wrote:Well, that cut off earlier than I'd planned for... Worry not - I'll still get the annual cover mashup out, as planned! I've had it ready for a few days now; just need to finish the post to which it's attached.

I believe that this means that Terho's only mathematically not won the Championship by now; there are three races left, meaning that Dimitrianov can only equal him on points and even then only if he wins every coming race without Terho scoring. Terho doesn't have the first place finishes to guarantee that Dimitrianov can't do that and win overall but, so long as he takes a single point, he's Drivers' Champion.

I did my own quick math (on a whim, before dinner) and came to the conclusion that Terho would need to score just three points to win the championship. In total, there's still 78 points up for grabs, accounting for fastest laps; without those points I guess (as I now realize this) that your calculation makes sense.
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Former Citizens of the Nimbus System wrote:A lot of stuff about mathematical probabilities


...And the next race is in Vilita...

:) Looks like the biggest mistake of Terho's racing career was abandoning ole iBen!

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Postby Former Citizens of the Nimbus System » Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:34 pm

Aboveland wrote:
Former Citizens of the Nimbus System wrote:Well, that cut off earlier than I'd planned for... Worry not - I'll still get the annual cover mashup out, as planned! I've had it ready for a few days now; just need to finish the post to which it's attached.

I believe that this means that Terho's only mathematically not won the Championship by now; there are three races left, meaning that Dimitrianov can only equal him on points and even then only if he wins every coming race without Terho scoring. Terho doesn't have the first place finishes to guarantee that Dimitrianov can't do that and win overall but, so long as he takes a single point, he's Drivers' Champion.

I did my own quick math (on a whim, before dinner) and came to the conclusion that Terho would need to score just three points to win the championship. In total, there's still 78 points up for grabs, accounting for fastest laps; without those points I guess (as I now realize this) that your calculation makes sense.

Ah, that's a good point; entirely forgot about fastest laps! Thanks, Aboveland!
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Postby Esmerel » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:46 am

While witnessing the whole "win before it's actually over" thing come to the WGPC for the first time in its history (probably) is... well, disappointing, it's not all bad. Sure, Talvela is now an absolutely dominant driver, the winningest in WGPC history and (bar unbelievable circumstances) the first double champion since Matthew Portland, but in my opinion he's closer to a Richard Petty kind of guy than a Lewis Hamilton. He wins all of the time, but when he wins, he has to earn it.

You have my congratulations, Aboveland. Yet I do wish for this to never happen again
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Postby Mattijana » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:59 am

Esmerel wrote:While witnessing the whole "win before it's actually over" thing come to the WGPC for the first time in its history (probably) is... well, disappointing, it's not all bad. Sure, Talvela is now an absolutely dominant driver, the winningest in WGPC history and (bar unbelievable circumstances) the first double champion since Matthew Portland, but in my opinion he's closer to a Richard Petty kind of guy than a Lewis Hamilton. He wins all of the time, but when he wins, he has to earn it.

You have my congratulations, Aboveland. Yet I do wish for this to never happen again


I seem to remember that Talvela's first championship way back in WGPC14 was pretty dominant as well, to the point that MRT came second in the constructors after being nearly bottom halfway through (cheers Vang). Mattijanans seem to be making a habit of coming second without ever looking like winning.
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Postby Third Asopia » Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:09 pm

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Postby Aboveland » Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:01 pm

Esmerel wrote:While witnessing the whole "win before it's actually over" thing come to the WGPC for the first time in its history (probably) is... well, disappointing, it's not all bad. Sure, Talvela is now an absolutely dominant driver, the winningest in WGPC history and (bar unbelievable circumstances) the first double champion since Matthew Portland, but in my opinion he's closer to a Richard Petty kind of guy than a Lewis Hamilton. He wins all of the time, but when he wins, he has to earn it.

You have my congratulations, Aboveland. Yet I do wish for this to never happen again


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8 42 Alex Dimitrianov                 	00:01:26.310	00:00:00.417
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18 56 Terho Talvela 00:01:27.855 00:00:01.962


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i fucking swear
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Postby Vilita and Turori » Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:32 pm

Mattijana wrote:
Esmerel wrote:While witnessing the whole "win before it's actually over" thing come to the WGPC for the first time in its history (probably) is... well, disappointing, it's not all bad. Sure, Talvela is now an absolutely dominant driver, the winningest in WGPC history and (bar unbelievable circumstances) the first double champion since Matthew Portland, but in my opinion he's closer to a Richard Petty kind of guy than a Lewis Hamilton. He wins all of the time, but when he wins, he has to earn it.

You have my congratulations, Aboveland. Yet I do wish for this to never happen again


I seem to remember that Talvela's first championship way back in WGPC14 was pretty dominant as well, to the point that MRT came second in the constructors after being nearly bottom halfway through (cheers Vang). Mattijanans seem to be making a habit of coming second without ever looking like winning.


That season the team were dominant for sure - the Constructors ended 263-120 - but the Drivers championship wasn't clinched until the last race with Terho finished on 135 and iBen on 128

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Postby Former Citizens of the Nimbus System » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:36 pm

Aboveland wrote:
Esmerel wrote:While witnessing the whole "win before it's actually over" thing come to the WGPC for the first time in its history (probably) is... well, disappointing, it's not all bad. Sure, Talvela is now an absolutely dominant driver, the winningest in WGPC history and (bar unbelievable circumstances) the first double champion since Matthew Portland, but in my opinion he's closer to a Richard Petty kind of guy than a Lewis Hamilton. He wins all of the time, but when he wins, he has to earn it.

You have my congratulations, Aboveland. Yet I do wish for this to never happen again


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8 42 Alex Dimitrianov                 	00:01:26.310	00:00:00.417
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18 56 Terho Talvela 00:01:27.855 00:00:01.962


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i fucking swear

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Postby Former Citizens of the Nimbus System » Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:39 pm

Doing my usual segmented post thing. Expect more over the coming hours! Got what I think are some pretty good ideas floating around in my head this time.
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Postby Former Citizens of the Nimbus System » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:06 pm

Congratulations on your victories, Aboveland, Vilita! Probably not the way that Terho would have wanted to win, at least, but after iBen's late comeback I'm sure the team's happy.
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Postby Aboveland » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:21 pm

Former Citizens of the Nimbus System wrote:Congratulations on your victories, Aboveland, Vilita! Probably not the way that Terho would have wanted to win, at least, but after iBen's late comeback I'm sure the team's happy.

Thank you! I can't say I'm unhappy, really, that it's all settled for sure now, and I'm kinda still shocked that Terho's second championship actually did happen :)

I would be lying though if I didn't say that's a strange way to wrap things up, or that I'm not feeling conflicting emotions right now. The stumble came at just the right time, but it's still somewhat disappointing. TBH I'm really surprised Terho was so far off the pace (and well, did so abysmally) in Vilita: the track, the car and his own style were supposed to be perfectly matched.

But hey, I'm not going to complain for real :) Let's hope I can finish off the last few races in style!
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Postby Esmerel » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:58 pm

Before anybody asks, yes, I've been very much quiet these last few weeks. I just got tired after so many weeks of competition. From April 2017 it was pretty much action every week. Of course, I do greatly enjoy this still, though it's pretty much certain now that I've made an early exit from this season's RP. Congratulations to Aboveland for their absolutely dominant victory once again, as well as TRAE securing the Constructors', and I look forward to competing with you and everyone else next year.

-There will probably be time still for a few more posts, though there's no promises at hand.

-I'll also definitely be passing on this year's WGP2 season so I can get some energy back for the future, as well as focus on the NSSCRA season going on now.

-The WGP3 Atlantic Division's second season will be back in September/October and more professional than the first. I have two team spots still open for any foreign entries looking to participate, so send me a message if you're interested in sending a team and driver combination.

I'll be away from the WGPC circuit for a bit, but there's no doubt I'll be back... and with a vengeance. Take care,

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P.S. In the Vilitian GP Dimitrianov (Talvela's only mathematical championship contender) retired on lap 13, Talvela on lap 14. Maybe Talvela knew his championship was now safe and just decided to retire the car he had obviously struggled with during the weekend. It would have been a fitting end to the championship, actually, and something pretty smug to do as well.
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Postby Aboveland » Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:55 pm

Esmerel wrote:Before anybody asks, yes, I've been very much quiet these last few weeks. I just got tired after so many weeks of competition. From April 2017 it was pretty much action every week. Of course, I do greatly enjoy this still, though it's pretty much certain now that I've made an early exit from this season's RP. Congratulations to Aboveland for their absolutely dominant victory once again, as well as TRAE securing the Constructors', and I look forward to competing with you and everyone else next year.

P.S. In the Vilitian GP Dimitrianov (Talvela's only mathematical championship contender) retired on lap 13, Talvela on lap 14. Maybe Talvela knew his championship was now safe and just decided to retire the car he had obviously struggled with during the weekend. It would have been a fitting end to the championship, actually, and something pretty smug to do as well.

TBH I'd been thinking about how you haven't sprung up any posts in the week. I do miss them :(

And I enjoy your completely rational way of looking at it but I have something a little more catastrophic in mind :D still not done yet tho oops

I think Terho would be neither full enough of himself or responsible enough to retire his car like that.
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Postby WGPC » Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:59 pm

That's it folks. Here's your final results. Thanks for a great season.
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Postby Mattijana » Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:54 am

That is indeed a wrap...

Thanks everyone for a great season. Apologies for being a bit quiet towards the end of the season, but exam season hit and I didn't really get going afterwards. It was great to finally see Alex Dimitrianov break out of his mid-table shackles and score well however!

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Postby Savojarna » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:16 am

Mattijana wrote:That is indeed a wrap...

Thanks everyone for a great season. Apologies for being a bit quiet towards the end of the season, but exam season hit and I didn't really get going afterwards. It was great to finally see Alex Dimitrianov break out of his mid-table shackles and score well however!

Already looking forward to the next season, and indeed WGP2.


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Postby Vangaziland » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:41 am

Congrats to Terho and iBen. My apologies for fading away. Once the ‘chip’ seemed out of reach, I had to take a break. I’ve been writing heavily for the past few seasons. I needed to take a break so I can come back fresh. But thanks to Audio and any other hosts (edit: Ethane) I may have missed. All is well here, just writing other genres.

Apologies to Sherpa for not pushing harder for Constructors.
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Postby The Sherpa Empire » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:28 am

Vangaziland wrote:Congrats to Terho and iBen. My apologies for fading away. Once the ‘chip’ seemed out of reach, I had to take a break. I’ve been writing heavily for the past few seasons. I needed to take a break so I can come back fresh. But thanks to Audio and any other hosts I may have missed. All is well here, just writing other genres.

Apologies to Sherpa for not pushing harder for Constructors.


No problem. I was starting to run out of steam too.
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Vangaziland » Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:17 pm

The back-to-back seasons add up. It was also good for me to relax off the chance, instead of going full greyhound mode. At least I should be more fresh for the WGP2.

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