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Postby Newmanistan » Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:59 pm

Welcome to the NSSCRA Discussion thread. Read below for how it is scorinated.

The big reason why stock car racing hasn’t been able to get off the ground as much as other motorsports is due to the lack of a true scorinator for it. Spreadsheet-based formulas have been the way the sport has been scorinated, as well as Whittoria using a video game for a couple versions of NSSCRA, with my permission to use the name of the competition for the editions he hosted, since I was well aware of the simulation game (nothing from EA Sports) he was using, and felt it would do a good job.

The real mission for me, though, has been to get xkoranate to work for stock car racing.

So, my trial and error stumbled upon this: Use the “qualifying” feature, instead of the “race” feature of xkoranate to get an average lap time for each driver. In using xkoranate, if I had just one lap of qualifying, the results were too random. If I had five, or higher, the results were too predictable. Three, was an ideal number. Here is a look at five scorinations using five drivers with skill levels applicable to the names I gave them, when doing a “3-lap” qualifying. 20.000 was entered as the track record with a 1.0 variance. This is something that could be changed from track to track.

(Using a Max-10pts: Legenary Driver had 10 pts, Very Successful had 8, Average had 6, Needing To Improve had 4, and Field Filler had 0).

1 Legendary Driver                20.117
2 Very Successful Driver 20.185
3 Average 20.579
4 Field Filler 20.884
5 Needing To Improve Driver 20.907

1 Very Successful Driver 20.160
2 Legendary Driver 20.491
3 Average 20.626
4 Needing To Improve Driver 20.736
5 Field Filler 20.877

1 Legendary Driver 20.126
2 Average 20.298
3 Very Successful Driver 20.361
4 Needing To Improve Driver 20.594
5 Field Filler 20.787

1 Legendary Driver 20.090
2 Average 20.548
3 Field Filler 20.826
4 Needing To Improve Driver 20.951
5 Very Successful Driver 21.101

1 Very Successful Driver 20.243
2 Average 20.276
3 Needing To Improve Driver 20.417
4 Legendary Driver 20.766
5 Field Filler 20.817



Therefore, I then average these five scorinations, to compute the final results based on average lap times. Now, it could be said that this was only a 15 lap race, but that’s not what I have in mind. Think of each scorination as being the drivers average lap time in each fifth of the race.

The final Results would be
1) Legendary (Avg: 20.318)
2) Very Successful (Avg: 20.410)
3) Average (Avg: 20.465)
4) Needing To Improve (Avg: 20.721)
5) Field Filler (Avg: 20.838)

Now, you may see that and think, “where was the randomness”, note that Very Successful and Average are very close, and there was two points of skill separating them. Everyone will start with the same skill (since there are no rankings now, but will be in the future); so it will be RP that differentiates drivers eventually.


It’s not “perfect” but I think it works for us.
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Postby Newmanistan » Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:59 pm

Newmanistan Signup:
#5- Bryan Harrison
#48- Shawn Curtis
#24- Ashley Matthews
#12- Scott Thompson

(You would enter your track info here, though Newmanistan will host multiple races)
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NEWMANISTAN SPORTING ACHIEVEMENTS:
CHAMPIONSHIPS: DBC 4; 27th BoF; CoH 34, 36, & 37; Oxen Cup 12; WBC 10, 12, 15, 17, 41, & 43; IBC 4 & 5; WLC 1
Runner Up: DBC 5 & 6; Oxen Cup 6; WBC 7,9 11, & 14; IBC 1; WB 4, 6 & 34; WLC 2 & 3
World Cups qualified for: 46, 48 (R of 16), 49, 50, 54
Hosted: WORLD CUP 49, WB 1, 2, & 5; WBC 8, 11, 14, 19, & 38; CoH 33, 35, & 39; WLC 2, 4 & 5; WCoH 10, IBC 24, NSSCRA, Horse Racing

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Postby Northwest Kalactin » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:03 pm

Northwest Kalactin sign up:
#16–Brandon Thomas
#82-Jason Davis
#91-Fred Moore
#21-Todd Peterson

Track info
Name: Gold Coast international circuit
City: Gold Coast
Track lap record: 33.68
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Postby Quantilia » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:30 am

#34 George Banks
#30 Bleddyn Cantrell
#76 Fiachra Montgomery
#19 Dara Thorpe

Track - Quazarton International Speedway
City - Quazarton
Lap Record - 1.20.18

Consider this a signup.

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Postby Newmanistan » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:37 am

Both signups above are accepted, but I would like to point out for future signups, if we can get those lap record times down.
An average lap time on a typical NASCAR cookie cutter track is between 45 and 50 seconds; around 30 seconds on a mile oval, and 15-20 second on a short track.
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NEWMANISTAN SPORTING ACHIEVEMENTS:
CHAMPIONSHIPS: DBC 4; 27th BoF; CoH 34, 36, & 37; Oxen Cup 12; WBC 10, 12, 15, 17, 41, & 43; IBC 4 & 5; WLC 1
Runner Up: DBC 5 & 6; Oxen Cup 6; WBC 7,9 11, & 14; IBC 1; WB 4, 6 & 34; WLC 2 & 3
World Cups qualified for: 46, 48 (R of 16), 49, 50, 54
Hosted: WORLD CUP 49, WB 1, 2, & 5; WBC 8, 11, 14, 19, & 38; CoH 33, 35, & 39; WLC 2, 4 & 5; WCoH 10, IBC 24, NSSCRA, Horse Racing

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#9 - Hyemi Pyo
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Track: Seoul Metropolitan Circuit
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Postby Aji No Moto » Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:49 am

Aji No Moto Signups:
#0 - Chiemi Hino
#00 - Eiji Ibi (if not possible #18 will do)
#71 - Noriyasu Nagai
#93 - Shigeru Tsuchie

Track Name: Sankyoku Tri-Oval (1 mile)
City: Sankyoku (Town)
Lap Record: 31.224
Characteristics: Three-turn (a-la Pocono, with medium banking).

Questions:

1. Will we have the same number format as RL NASCAR as number formats are concerned (i.e. #1 is different from #01)?
2. How will manufacturers be selected? If we can put forward a manufacturer, I can submit a car signup.
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Postby Cassadaigua » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:01 am

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#27- Stacie Houston
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Track- Concord Heights Motor Speedway; Track Record: 16.221
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Postby Newmanistan » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:43 pm

Aji No Moto wrote:
1. Will we have the same number format as RL NASCAR as number formats are concerned (i.e. #1 is different from #01)?
2. How will manufacturers be selected? If we can put forward a manufacturer, I can submit a car signup.


1) Yes, #01, #02, etc, are treated as different numbers then #1, and #2, and are eligible numbers.
2) I give free reign to the RPer over this. Ideally, it should be a manufacturer in your nation, or from someone else's nation. Seems like it would be a good opportunity for a storefront if say one of your manufacturers wanted to produce vehicles for other race teams. One thing I am not looking for here those (though someone is allowed to do it, is to use the RL manufactuerers).
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Runner Up: DBC 5 & 6; Oxen Cup 6; WBC 7,9 11, & 14; IBC 1; WB 4, 6 & 34; WLC 2 & 3
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Hosted: WORLD CUP 49, WB 1, 2, & 5; WBC 8, 11, 14, 19, & 38; CoH 33, 35, & 39; WLC 2, 4 & 5; WCoH 10, IBC 24, NSSCRA, Horse Racing

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Postby The Sherpa Empire » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:02 pm

Not a big NASCAR buff IRL, but I figure it doesn't hurt to give this a try.

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Postby Vangaziland » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:17 pm

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Using the Vannish Motors Hammerhead as the chassis. I have the storefront to show the stock version, making it a legit 'stock car' here. Vannish Motors helps sponsor the team but it's not exactly a factory team like VMR. Vannish Motors would also supply this vehicle to interested teams with a partial sponsorship.
Storefront: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=297549

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Postby Saint Kanye » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:01 pm

#46 Thea Alvarez
#18 Jeremiah Brooke
#3 Skip Stiller
Cutoff: #05 Philip West

Track: Jalton Superspeedway
City: Jalton, St. Kanye
Length: 2.6 mi
Record: 50.52 sec
Info: Oval; Turns banked 33°
Event title: Pencurve Electronics 500 (sponsorship reasons)
Laps: 192 (if not used for scorination, used for RP)
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Postby Free Republics » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:56 pm

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#23 Speranza Pisani
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Track: Kohlington Raceway
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Postby Saint Kanye » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:48 am

I have some questions about this. Will every race be limited to 40 cars? That will make it more realistic. And will there be a "Chase" (playoffs)?
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Postby Newmanistan » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:52 am

Saint Kanye wrote:I have some questions about this. Will every race be limited to 40 cars? That will make it more realistic. And will there be a "Chase" (playoffs)?


Good questions. I'll be looking for a field size somewhere within a range of the mid-30's and no more then 44. (44 as opposed to 43, since its an easier number to work with). Right now we are sitting right on 44 with accepting all four drivers from each nation, but if a couple more nations signed up, then cutting everyone to three drivers should get us within the desired range. Since NASCAR regularly had 43-car field sizes, I'm fine with the 43 (or 44) car field size.

As for the Chase, as much as I would like to be "old school", its a part of the sport now. This will be the first time I implement a Chase in NSSCRA, and want to see how the final signup numbers look before setting up the Chase, where the elimination cutoffs will be, and how many drivers move on, etc etc.

On this note, I will formally close signups at 8pm EST on Monday, Feb. 19. This is when I will create the everything thread.
Participants should be prepared for the race to be on Thursday, Feb. 22.
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CHAMPIONSHIPS: DBC 4; 27th BoF; CoH 34, 36, & 37; Oxen Cup 12; WBC 10, 12, 15, 17, 41, & 43; IBC 4 & 5; WLC 1
Runner Up: DBC 5 & 6; Oxen Cup 6; WBC 7,9 11, & 14; IBC 1; WB 4, 6 & 34; WLC 2 & 3
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Hosted: WORLD CUP 49, WB 1, 2, & 5; WBC 8, 11, 14, 19, & 38; CoH 33, 35, & 39; WLC 2, 4 & 5; WCoH 10, IBC 24, NSSCRA, Horse Racing

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Postby Vilita and Turori » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:20 am

VIlita & Turori:
#2: Centur Tiones
#14: River 'Shark' Suzgar
#41: Yraaga Gilli'i
#60: Rockii Ezis


We have a couple of tracks depending on what diversity you would like to add to the schedule


Track: Vilitan Mountain Challenge Course
Type: High Speed banked Road Course
City: Rockii Coast, Vilita
Lap Record: 60.0 seconds

Track: Lonngeylin Ring
Type: Classic Bull-Ring Short Track
City: Lonngeylin, Vilita
Lap Record: 14.77 seconds

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Postby Newmanistan » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:10 am

Newmanistan wrote:
On this note, I will formally close signups at 8pm EST on Monday, Feb. 19. This is when I will create the everything thread.
Participants should be prepared for the race to be on Thursday, Feb. 22.


I was feeling quite under the weather yesterday (somewhat better today), and didn't "bump" this in a timely manner to note that the signup cutoff was imminent. So I am going to keep them open until 8pm EST today (Tuesday Feb 20).

First race will now be Friday. More details provided when the everything thread is created tonight.
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CHAMPIONSHIPS: DBC 4; 27th BoF; CoH 34, 36, & 37; Oxen Cup 12; WBC 10, 12, 15, 17, 41, & 43; IBC 4 & 5; WLC 1
Runner Up: DBC 5 & 6; Oxen Cup 6; WBC 7,9 11, & 14; IBC 1; WB 4, 6 & 34; WLC 2 & 3
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Hosted: WORLD CUP 49, WB 1, 2, & 5; WBC 8, 11, 14, 19, & 38; CoH 33, 35, & 39; WLC 2, 4 & 5; WCoH 10, IBC 24, NSSCRA, Horse Racing

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Postby Vilita and Turori » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:41 am

Might I suggest a little bit more of a delay before the first race?

I would give at least a week from the close of signups to the start so maybe starting next weekend would make more sense. No one has had a chance to RP yet and you are already thinking about the first cutoff :)

Unless its just a test event like winter testing before the season starts, that would be ok since it would aide RP
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Postby West-East Timor » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:34 am

#20 Timo Beniani
#55 Simon McAthon
#28 Shnarik Arghnagash
#63 Allan Aulton

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City: Isnas
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Postby The Sherpa Empire » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:40 am

Vilita and Turori wrote:Might I suggest a little bit more of a delay before the first race?

I would give at least a week from the close of signups to the start so maybe starting next weekend would make more sense. No one has had a chance to RP yet and you are already thinking about the first cutoff :)

Unless its just a test event like winter testing before the season starts, that would be ok since it would aide RP


I think he just means he's closing sign-ups tonight, not a cutoff to scorinate something. Then you would have the next few days between today and Friday to post your first RPs.
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Postby Newmanistan » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:35 pm

Vilita and Turori wrote:Might I suggest a little bit more of a delay before the first race?

I would give at least a week from the close of signups to the start so maybe starting next weekend would make more sense. No one has had a chance to RP yet and you are already thinking about the first cutoff :)

Unless its just a test event like winter testing before the season starts, that would be ok since it would aide RP


I think that's a great idea actually, about the test event. We'll do that Friday, and begin on Sunday (cutoff times will be in the evening hours)
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NEWMANISTAN SPORTING ACHIEVEMENTS:
CHAMPIONSHIPS: DBC 4; 27th BoF; CoH 34, 36, & 37; Oxen Cup 12; WBC 10, 12, 15, 17, 41, & 43; IBC 4 & 5; WLC 1
Runner Up: DBC 5 & 6; Oxen Cup 6; WBC 7,9 11, & 14; IBC 1; WB 4, 6 & 34; WLC 2 & 3
World Cups qualified for: 46, 48 (R of 16), 49, 50, 54
Hosted: WORLD CUP 49, WB 1, 2, & 5; WBC 8, 11, 14, 19, & 38; CoH 33, 35, & 39; WLC 2, 4 & 5; WCoH 10, IBC 24, NSSCRA, Horse Racing

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Postby Newmanistan » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:28 pm

SIGNUPS ARE OFFICIALLY CLOSED.

This will now serve as the discussion thread.
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NEWMANISTAN SPORTING ACHIEVEMENTS:
CHAMPIONSHIPS: DBC 4; 27th BoF; CoH 34, 36, & 37; Oxen Cup 12; WBC 10, 12, 15, 17, 41, & 43; IBC 4 & 5; WLC 1
Runner Up: DBC 5 & 6; Oxen Cup 6; WBC 7,9 11, & 14; IBC 1; WB 4, 6 & 34; WLC 2 & 3
World Cups qualified for: 46, 48 (R of 16), 49, 50, 54
Hosted: WORLD CUP 49, WB 1, 2, & 5; WBC 8, 11, 14, 19, & 38; CoH 33, 35, & 39; WLC 2, 4 & 5; WCoH 10, IBC 24, NSSCRA, Horse Racing

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Postby Jebslund » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:49 pm

Newmanistan wrote:
Vilita and Turori wrote:Might I suggest a little bit more of a delay before the first race?

I would give at least a week from the close of signups to the start so maybe starting next weekend would make more sense. No one has had a chance to RP yet and you are already thinking about the first cutoff :)

Unless its just a test event like winter testing before the season starts, that would be ok since it would aide RP


I think that's a great idea actually, about the test event. We'll do that Friday, and begin on Sunday (cutoff times will be in the evening hours)


I won't be able to post on Friday or until rather late Saturday. I have a friend's wife's birthday Friday and will be at my girlfriend's house most of Saturday, and won't have access to a proper computer.
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Postby Saint Kanye » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:02 pm

I have more questions. How do we determine the starting positions for each race? Is that in the scorinator? It will be useful to know (in RP) who starts on pole, rear, etc. And how about crashes, mechanical failures etc? How do we RP that?
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