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Postby North Prarie » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:11 pm

The International Water Polo Federation wrote:
Newmanistan wrote:
I am going to second this, and will be willing to take the votes with a puppet.
I third this, calling a vote immediately.

Fourth.
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Postby Northwest Kalactin » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:12 pm

North Prarie wrote:
The International Water Polo Federation wrote:I third this, calling a vote immediately.

Fourth.

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Postby The International Water Polo Federation » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:12 pm

To IWPF members:

Code IV
    On the dissolution of the Kep administration due to select members' apparent dislike of President Kep's actions.

      A.) Yes
      B.) No

Please respond to Newmanistan with a TG by Wednesday Feb. 28, 2017
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Postby The International Water Polo Federation » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:13 pm

North Prarie wrote:
The International Water Polo Federation wrote:I third this, calling a vote immediately.

Fourth.

You are not an IWPF member, unfortunately you cannot vote, however your opinion matters!
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Postby Todd McCloud » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:15 pm

Utterly ridiculous.

Vekaiyu looks forward to this vote.

In lieu of this body crumbling over the next few days, Vekaiyu asks nations pulling out of this federation to give pause and allow this vote to see to its fullness prior to making any movements.
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Postby Todd McCloud » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:16 pm

The International Water Polo Federation wrote:To IWPF members:

Code IV
    On the dissolution of the Kep administration due to select members' apparent dislike of President Kep's actions.

      A.) Yes
      B.) No

Please respond to Newmanistan with a TG by Wednesday Feb. 28, 2017

For the sake of clarification, a 'yes' vote removes the Kep administration and opens the door for a new president, and a 'no' vote maintains status quo?
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Postby The International Water Polo Federation » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:18 pm

Todd McCloud wrote:
The International Water Polo Federation wrote:To IWPF members:

Code IV
    On the dissolution of the Kep administration due to select members' apparent dislike of President Kep's actions.

      A.) Yes
      B.) No

Please respond to Newmanistan with a TG by Wednesday Feb. 28, 2017

For the sake of clarification, a 'yes' vote removes the Kep administration and opens the door for a new president, and a 'no' vote maintains status quo?

A 'no' vote would allow organize new elections, erasing the Kep Administration.
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Postby Newmanistan » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:19 pm

Todd McCloud wrote:
The International Water Polo Federation wrote:To IWPF members:

Code IV
    On the dissolution of the Kep administration due to select members' apparent dislike of President Kep's actions.

      A.) Yes
      B.) No

Please respond to Newmanistan with a TG by Wednesday Feb. 28, 2017

For the sake of clarification, a 'yes' vote removes the Kep administration and opens the door for a new president, and a 'no' vote maintains status quo?


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Postby Todd McCloud » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:20 pm

The International Water Polo Federation wrote:
Todd McCloud wrote:For the sake of clarification, a 'yes' vote removes the Kep administration and opens the door for a new president, and a 'no' vote maintains status quo?

A 'no' vote would allow organize new elections, erasing the Kep Administration.

Update the vote post so folks are more clear with the wordage
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Postby Kep » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:30 pm

Or you could of told me, "Hey I don't like you as President anymore", but no we had to think of any way to tarnish my already-destroyed name, didn't we.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:34 pm

So a no vote gets rid of the current administration?
This makes no sense.
Can I go change my vote from no then?

Can we confirm also that we are voting to get rid of a president because he failed to include a vote in his tally that could have made absolutely no difference whatsoever?
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Postby Azeirethia » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:36 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:So a no vote gets rid of the current administration?
This makes no sense.
Can I go change my vote from no then?

Can we confirm also that we are voting to get rid of a president because he failed to include a vote in his tally that could have made absolutely no difference whatsoever?
I literally tg'd you the corrected form, go off of that, the most recent one.
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Postby Ranoria » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:36 pm

So looks like this is going great.

In other news, are sign ups open/will a season be underway soon? Looks kinda interesting.
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Postby Azeirethia » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:38 pm

Ranoria wrote:So looks like this is going great.

In other news, are sign ups open/will a season be underway soon? Looks kinda interesting.

Seeing thst there's apprently a deep-seeded hatred for me that they choose to release now it's going swell. Lost 3 members in 30 minutes, woohoo.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:39 pm

Oh, it looks like gvh should read tgs properly, never mind.

Don't change my vote from no.
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Postby Kep » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:40 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Oh, it looks like gvh should read tgs properly, never mind.

Don't change my vote from no.

What.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:41 pm

Azeirethia wrote:
Ranoria wrote:So looks like this is going great.

In other news, are sign ups open/will a season be underway soon? Looks kinda interesting.

Seeing thst there's apprently a deep-seeded hatred for me that they choose to release now it's going swell. Lost 3 members in 30 minutes, woohoo.

Having read the last few pages, it sounds like petty bullshit.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:42 pm

Kep wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Oh, it looks like gvh should read tgs properly, never mind.

Don't change my vote from no.

What.

A post from the IWPF suggested that a no vote would organise new elections.
The tg suggested that a no vote would keep the current admin. Which one is it?
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Postby Kep » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:43 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Azeirethia wrote:Seeing thst there's apprently a deep-seeded hatred for me that they choose to release now it's going swell. Lost 3 members in 30 minutes, woohoo.

Having read the last few pages, it sounds like petty bullshit.
That's why I'm being kicked out of the organization I've ran for nearly a year now. :3
Looking forward to our next President, I presume?

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:45 pm

Kep wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Having read the last few pages, it sounds like petty bullshit.
That's why I'm being kicked out of the organization I've ran for nearly a year now. :3
Looking forward to our next President, I presume?

No I'm trying to vote to keep you in. Just can't figure out which option keeps you in because we've had differing responses.
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Postby Kep » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:46 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Kep wrote:That's why I'm being kicked out of the organization I've ran for nearly a year now. :3
Looking forward to our next President, I presume?

No I'm trying to vote to keep you in. Just can't figure out which option keeps you in because we've had differing responses.
yes is to kick me out
No is to retain the Kep Administration

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:48 pm

Kep wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:No I'm trying to vote to keep you in. Just can't figure out which option keeps you in because we've had differing responses.
yes is to kick me out
No is to retain the Kep Administration

I shall keep my vote as 'no' then.
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“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles." - Jeff Cooper

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Postby Todd McCloud » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:50 pm

Kep wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Having read the last few pages, it sounds like petty bullshit.
That's why I'm being kicked out of the organization I've ran for nearly a year now. :3
Looking forward to our next President, I presume?

The first vote indicated "On the dissolution of the Kep administration due to select members' apparent dislike of President Kep's actions.", which seemed to indicate a yes vote meant remove the administration and a no vote meant keep the status quo.

Upon the suggestion to make the vote seem less wordy, the president clarified the vote as follows:
A.) Yes - call new elections at completion of WPIC 4
B.) No - retain the Kep administration

Which seems contrary to the initial wordage. Either way, even a vote of confidence seems to be difficult. If the president is certain they will be removed, then a resignation may be more proper. However, if the president intends to keep running this body, Vekaiyu suggests the president issue an apology, allow the vote to continue, and work to resolve the matters that have arisen over the weekend.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:51 pm

Todd McCloud wrote:
Kep wrote:That's why I'm being kicked out of the organization I've ran for nearly a year now. :3
Looking forward to our next President, I presume?

The first vote indicated "On the dissolution of the Kep administration due to select members' apparent dislike of President Kep's actions.", which seemed to indicate a yes vote meant remove the administration and a no vote meant keep the status quo.

Upon the suggestion to make the vote seem less wordy, the president clarified the vote as follows:
A.) Yes - call new elections at completion of WPIC 4
B.) No - retain the Kep administration

Which seems contrary to the initial wordage. Either way, even a vote of confidence seems to be difficult. If the president is certain they will be removed, then a resignation may be more proper. However, if the president intends to keep running this body, Vekaiyu suggests the president issue an apology, allow the vote to continue, and work to resolve the matters that have arisen over the weekend.

What are the issues, apart from not tallying a vote that made no difference whatsoever?
If you don't mind, could you tg me please so that the thread doesn't become cluttered with rehashing old drama
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Postby Newmanistan » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:52 pm

This type of thing (impeaching) can get tense and can lead to finger-pointing; way back when, when this happened in the World Baseball Classic there were some unpleasant words expressed, and visits from moderators. Right now we are not at that point, but just want to remind everyone to not make this "personal", regardless of what side of the fence you might be on. Whichever way the vote goes, it is not the end of the world in the grand scheme of things.
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