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The only thing is that this is not the WGPC. I am not sure if Hodori also has that #1 rule. That's another one of those things where I have to stand up for this event's individuality. Because status quo tries to tell everyone to do things like NS always does. But it doesn't have to and I just want to make it known to the host. I also am not tied to number 1 if nobody gets it. But again, this is this host's league. He does not have to follow the WGPC.

I also left the WGPC because someone controlled my characters without RP permission. I also traded that driver for the IC reason that the reliability was too low and I felt keeping that driver would bring losses to my team. And people chose to focus on my fiery nature as opposed to what was right. Meanwhile I was angry because he failed to change the post after I denied him Permission.

And that is okay. The host and I worked it out and he has asked you to stop bringing it up.

I want you all to know, I hold no grudges. If you all want to, feel free. But I will continue to stand up for what I believe in. And Lisander, I talked about numbers because he accused me of wanting to do what he did. I also see you criticizing St. Kanye's use of the word ugly when you called my car ugly for no good reason. You also called me names. And I have never sunk to that level on here. I told you I moved on, but you wanted to mention the insults one more time.

None of that matters with this issue because we both AGREE that the number issue doesn't make sense.

Just wanna say, if we do get the #1 rule, we should also be able to NOT use the number if we don't want it. Which is what I'll do IF one of my drivers gets the title.

Ugly is an aesthetic concept, like pretty, or horrible, or lovely. It's applied to stuff that we can see and judge by its appearance, based on OUR PERSONAL TASTE.

My criticism here was about judging a number as ugly. How can a number be ugly? What's the point behind saying 22 cars in the track are uglier than 24 or 30 or 32 cars? If we consider Formula categories outside the United States usually do not allow more than 24 cars on track, probably for safety reasons, having 32 cars in any circuit that is not a good idea.

I'm not judging a word or an aesthetic concept here, but an idea of stuffing a circuit with 32 cars. Ok, scorinator can allow this, and even more, but imagine how boring it will be to drivers finishing 24th, 27th, 29th. I'd not even drop a RP line If my team had these ridiculous positions. It would be frustrating.

When not in ovals (and we don't have ovals in eGP, as far as I know, even American series have policies on limiting the number of drivers. Look at some Indycar recent not oval events:

Long Beach had 21 drivers, St. Petersburg had 21 drivers and Indy Grand Prix had 22 drivers.

Saint Kanye wrote:Just wanna say, if we do get the #1 rule, we should also be able to NOT use the number if we don't want it. Which is what I'll do IF one of my drivers gets the title.

Yup, this should be perfectly acceptable too.

I think it's not a good number because it's hard to divide it evenly. But now I'm thinking twice because of the history of it.

By the way, did you get my application TG?

I disagree with your aesthetics. They were also presented in an insulting and disgusting manner. Your opinion was not solicited and you did not offer up some advice or want to help. You said it just to try to get a reaction. You have no right to throw your personal judgement on what I did. I also notice your use of all caps, for the record.

So I went to the mods, because you crossed the line. And it did look bad. Especially because you did it after I tried to move on twice. The mod didn't like how I tried to move on the second time so they warned me. It should be noted that I didn't sink into calling you names, but made sure the issue stopped.

But that has been settled. So lets let that go. You agreed with my points but somehow got back into this. Consider this a warning. I will go to the mods again.

St. Kanye was saying ugly not as an insult, but because he felt the numbers wouldn't work. I think the number is fine but he is free to state that opinion.

And with all that, I will point to the notion Lisander stated that if both teams are accepted, the first who asked keeps the number, the second who asked changes the number. I don't know how he got into all that extra stuff.

I am assuming both teams will get accepted. So as much as he wants to debate and bring up unrelated things, he is in agreement. He doesn't want to be, but he is. And that's my point.

Also, opinions are one thing. Insinuating and making outright insults is another. Monitor must not have seen the part when he called me two names and said "see your ugly car on the Tarmac." I am trying to prevent that from happening again. So yes, there has been nothing wrong since then. We have been debating a question. I still will not stand being called names, even if people agree or disagree. So yes, it has been stopped because I went to the mods as soon as he crossed the line last. No, it hasn't gotten to that point yet, so I haven't gone to the mods. But I am letting Lisander know because he started hinting and implying things and acting like he is ready to say something once again.

So yes, it's fine for now, Monitor. But if he disrespects me in the way he was warned for I will mention it, because I am not trying to retaliate. But now he knows you are watching. So THANK YOU, USS Monitor.

And yes, you may give your opinion, Lisander. But you cannot hurl insults. The whole disagreement with you and I is because you have come here and tried to push your ideas from the start. You said you wanted this to be like the WGPC and I have stood up for this season's individuality from the start. You dislike that, fine. But let's not make it seem like I'm just being unreasonable.

This form of speech is acceptable, you calling names is not. So let's keep it like this. I am not using mods as weapons but telling you I am not going to go back and forth. You agree with me over the number issue and I have no clue why you got into the past.

I think it's time everyone took a big step backwards from this complete non-issue. There are plenty of options and its Megelan's choice (or the choice of whomever hosts the event) what the rules are on numbers.

I also vote that the second driver has to change.

HOWEVER, in Megelan's TG to me, he said he likes the idea of having to race for it.

That's three in favor of "first come, first serve" (me, Van, Lisander) and two for "race you for it" (Megelan, V&T).

But if it's decided by the founder and not the majority, so be it.

Aight... I got few things to say.

When i chose number 12 for my driver, it was free and unclaimed. Then, later, V&T signed up a driver with same number. Not sure why, but it happened.

V&T, i do not blame you in anything or think bad about you because of that (it's not really that big of a deal tbh). However, I did sign it first and imho, the only reasonable way to resolve this situation is that the one who claimed it first gets the number (in this case, me). Idea of having two drivers race over a number really makes no sense.

But, V&T, if you have some actual specific reason why you want #12, I am willing to negotiate through TG. And I hope we can solve this little ''issue'' like grown-up adults.

Now, can we all calm down please? Thank you

Is this dead?

Hiklarmangia wrote:Is this dead?

No, I'm waiting for someone to make a car livery for me, then I'll post my own team and tracks. In a week we might be able to start.

Anymore open team spots? Because, I would also appreciate help with my livery

EEC wrote:Because, I would also appreciate help with my livery

TG me if you want

Vilita and Turori wrote:

Megelan wrote:
No, I'm waiting for someone to make a car livery for me, then I'll post my own team and tracks. In a week we might be able to start.

I meant, Saint Kanye was working on my livery already, but thanks anyway.

Megelan wrote:

Vilita and Turori wrote:

I meant, Saint Kanye was working on my livery already, but thanks anyway.

Well he shouldn't be taking on new requests if he's still working on yours and its holding up the entire competition

Calm down. It is done.

I've been having serious overheating issues with my laptop so, that's why I haven't been here in the last few days. Hopefully I'll be able to get a replacement soon.