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Postby Aboveland » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:50 pm

The Redvale wrote:For future reference, if I DNF in a race can others avoid writing about the way I did it without running it by me first? I had a very specific way for Maria to DNF that I can't use now because it would conflict with West East Timor. I'm not against other people RPing my characters or anything, but if it's something major like retiring from a race, it would be nice to get a TG asking if it conflicts with any plans of mine.

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Postby West-East Timor » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:05 pm

The Redvale wrote:For future reference, if I DNF in a race can others avoid writing about the way I did it without running it by me first? I had a very specific way for Maria to DNF that I can't use now because it would conflict with West East Timor. I'm not against other people RPing my characters or anything, but if it's something major like retiring from a race, it would be nice to get a TG asking if it conflicts with any plans of mine.

I already tried to make it as un-specific as possible, but if you want me to, I can delete it from my post. I mean, it's nothing too important for my RP.
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Postby The Redvale » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:11 pm

West-East Timor wrote:
The Redvale wrote:For future reference, if I DNF in a race can others avoid writing about the way I did it without running it by me first? I had a very specific way for Maria to DNF that I can't use now because it would conflict with West East Timor. I'm not against other people RPing my characters or anything, but if it's something major like retiring from a race, it would be nice to get a TG asking if it conflicts with any plans of mine.

I already tried to make it as un-specific as possible, but if you want me to, I can delete it from my post. I mean, it's nothing too important for my RP.

Nah, you should keep it there, I already have the majority of my post written so I would have to change my post too now. I managed to work with what you had, I was just stating for future reference that a TG would be nice even though I'm not going to be like Vangaziland and claim that I'm the only one that can write my characters.
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Postby Audioslavia » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:33 pm

Just to be clear, going against a previous RP is acceptable if you believe your idea is good enough to ask a poster to take down a one-line reference to your driver's retirement. I did the same thing myself a few seasons ago.

Naturally it's not something you'd want to do too often, of course.
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Postby The Redvale » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:37 pm

Well, I got the post up. Didn't get Jeremy or John into it but I'll get to that in the next one.

On another note I wanted to ask when we were going to open signups for WGP2 and decide on the actual format? Maybe we should work out the specifics of that and then open signups when there's a couple of races left in the season here, and then if we use the WGPC format the negotiation phase can start soon after the season ends.

There's a decent, about sixty percent chance that I'll be replacing my drivers for next season even though they will make appearances then regardless. If that's the case, you'll see the hot tempered Luna Estrella and the mysterious Cain Britton make their first appearances in WGP2.
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Postby Esmerel » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:46 pm

Personally, after this season is over Jean is going to spend a lot of time relaxing, and then he'll relegate himself into WGP2 to grab some experience before next season. Would that be legal?
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Postby The Redvale » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:29 pm

Esmerel wrote:Personally, after this season is over Jean is going to spend a lot of time relaxing, and then he'll relegate himself into WGP2 to grab some experience before next season. Would that be legal?

Should be fine. Just like how GP2 drivers can be associated with F1 teams at the same time. Though, the emphasis will probably still be on younger drivers that are up and coming.
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Postby Esmerel » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:18 pm

Also, with the introduction of WGP2 would we have to create an organization like the FIA to be the overarching host? If so, the WMA (World Motorsport Association, the parody name used in Motorsport Manager) could do nicely.
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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:22 pm

Esmerel wrote:Also, with the introduction of WGP2 would we have to create an organization like the FIA to be the overarching host? If so, the WMA (World Motorsport Association, the parody name used in Motorsport Manager) could do nicely.

Fitting in with the spirit of NS, let's confusingly call it the WGPC as well (Committee instead of Championship).
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Postby Esmerel » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:01 pm

Or we could call it the WGP Committee, to avoid confusion, but confusing is funnier so let's go with yours.

Anyways, I should also propose a circuit I have for WGP2 (in accordance with reduced track length) which I just felt should be shared. We should probably create a WGP2 interest/discussion thread to avoid overflowing this one, but here you go.

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With the announcement of the new WGP2 feeder series, the track was quickly submitted through testing and regulations to obtain a WGPC grade 1 license, as it was the only non-street track in Esmerel that could host a shorter event, bar the West Circuit of Raleigh Hill, but the guys over there didn't feel like it.

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Postby Aboveland » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:31 pm

What if we call it WGPA? World Grand Prix Academy? Or WGPC, but C for challenge or cup or something young sounding.
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Postby Audioslavia » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:25 am

For anyone wanting to make a logo for the WGP2 (or WGP Committee, or whichever) the font I use for all WGPC related stuff is Akashi.

I won't be part of the WGP2 due to time constraints, but I'll be on hand with advice if needed, and you guys have my full support.

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Postby The Redvale » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:48 am

Aboveland wrote:What if we call it WGPA? World Grand Prix Academy? Or WGPC, but C for challenge or cup or something young sounding.

Well, I called it WGP2 because of the resemblance to the former real life feeder series, GP2.

Also, if there is enough interest in a planning thread, I could get that set up.
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Postby Esmerel » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:34 am

The Redvale wrote:
Aboveland wrote:What if we call it WGPA? World Grand Prix Academy? Or WGPC, but C for challenge or cup or something young sounding.

Well, I called it WGP2 because of the resemblance to the former real life feeder series, GP2.

Also, if there is enough interest in a planning thread, I could get that set up.


I'd recommend we set up a thread and link this thread to it for the time being. So which aspects of the things we've discussed so far should be used?

Personally?

1. I'd say we take Hodori's template for all teams.

2. All aero parts are spec parts and cannot be developed, but other parts are free to R&D with.

3. Tracks are generally shorter (such as the Bayview Dome) and races are also shorter, at only 250km instead of 305km.

4. The division will be formally known as WGP2 and act as a feeder series to the WGPC. The WGP2 will be run during the WGPC off-season. Anyone is able to submit applications, which will be fairly the same as the WGPC signup (further details to be discussed later) but of course younger stars will be more prominent.

Any changes to these rules should and must be at least suggested. Which means share your thoughts. ;)
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The Redvale wrote:
Aboveland wrote:What if we call it WGPA? World Grand Prix Academy? Or WGPC, but C for challenge or cup or something young sounding.

Well, I called it WGP2 because of the resemblance to the former real life feeder series, GP2.

Also, if there is enough interest in a planning thread, I could get that set up.

One thing that the Wardship would be interested in doing in relation to a junior series would be holding a round on a Nimban track. Jacob Gibbons (the Nimban Minister for Sport who made a brief appearance in the interview at the start of the season) has been watching Nexus Racing's success with interest and wants to grow burgeoning viewing numbers by running a Nimban Grand Prix; WGP2 would be an opportunity for a test run of that.

I'll start working on a map now.
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Postby Barunia » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:35 am

The Redvale wrote: The plan was to use junior versions of the current teams and a few others to replace those who aren't interested. Basically, if you already had a team here, you would automatically be on the list to join the feeder series.


Would that include teams that competed in previous seasons? Archer would be interested.
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Postby Esmerel » Tue Apr 18, 2017 8:38 am

Barunia wrote:
The Redvale wrote: The plan was to use junior versions of the current teams and a few others to replace those who aren't interested. Basically, if you already had a team here, you would automatically be on the list to join the feeder series.


Would that include teams that competed in previous seasons? Archer would be interested.


I'd say it'd be great if you decided to join. It won't be another six months or so once the current WGPC season ends that another one begins. And welcome back. After many teams from S14 didn't make it back, it'll be nice to race with some veteran competition.
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Postby Esmerel » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:29 pm

Also, about the (currently) most recent post in the roleplay... Aboveland, I know you were kicking Terho into overdrive but are you trying to write the championship in his favor? :eyebrow:
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Postby Aboveland » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:05 pm

Esmerel wrote:Also, about the (currently) most recent post in the roleplay... Aboveland, I know you were kicking Terho into overdrive but are you trying to write the championship in his favor? :eyebrow:

Uh, well... Full disclosure: yes, kinda, but I didn't just pull it out of a hat after Sunday's race and Terho's championship lead loss. I had already been planning for something to happen to Axel for a while. I had felt that the quality of my RP had been in steep decline since I introduced two drivers: the completely separate storylines either left me with one good one and one left out to dry or two mediocre storylines. I had originally planned on having Axel have a career ending crash, but eventually I decided it should be at the Abovian GP rather than anywhere else.

Eventually, I started to feel bad for my pretend race car driver, so the idea of killing him off (not literally) became less appealing. After all, I needed him for the [redacted] I'm going to do next year, and at his RP age of 22 I felt it was a bit wrong to kill him off so early on. Still, the idea of having some sort of drama in at least one story arc of mine still appealed to me, hence this. It could definitely be perceived as a blatant way to ease Terho's chances of a second title, I'll admit, but whether Axel was leading the championship or stuck dead last it would have happened anyways.

Besides, I've still got the Bitten Heroes hurdle to clear.
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Postby Esmerel » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:11 pm

Audioslavia wrote:For anyone wanting to make a logo for the WGP2 (or WGP Committee, or whichever) the font I use for all WGPC related stuff is Akashi.

I won't be part of the WGP2 due to time constraints, but I'll be on hand with advice if needed, and you guys have my full support.


First of all, thanks for the font. It's nice.

Second of all, I have a few images to share related to the WGP2 logo I designed that we'd put at the top of the page in the thread (stylized like this season's thread) Basically the main idea is the "2" in "WGP2" would have a color associated with the image it was on.

Once again, let me know what you think. We're still throwing ideas around.

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Postby Aboveland » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:13 pm

Quite like your concepts, Esmerel. I went ahead and tried out a different font, and just made the logo rather than adding it to an image:

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Let me know what you all think (the bottom text might be a bit polarizing but that's nothing a quick fix can't... er... fix).
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Postby The Redvale » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:27 pm

I actually really like the pink and black version of the logo! I'm going to have my own version of the thread art up maybe, when my computer is fixed. For now, should I go ahead and make the interest thread and we can really discuss the format?
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Postby Esmerel » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:30 pm

Aboveland wrote:
Esmerel wrote:Also, about the (currently) most recent post in the roleplay... Aboveland, I know you were kicking Terho into overdrive but are you trying to write the championship in his favor? :eyebrow:

Uh, well... Full disclosure: yes, kinda, but I didn't just pull it out of a hat after Sunday's race and Terho's championship lead loss. I had already been planning for something to happen to Axel for a while. I had felt that the quality of my RP had been in steep decline since I introduced two drivers: the completely separate storylines either left me with one good one and one left out to dry or two mediocre storylines. I had originally planned on having Axel have a career ending crash, but eventually I decided it should be at the Abovian GP rather than anywhere else.

Eventually, I started to feel bad for my pretend race car driver, so the idea of killing him off (not literally) became less appealing. After all, I needed him for the [redacted] I'm going to do next year, and at his RP age of 22 I felt it was a bit wrong to kill him off so early on. Still, the idea of having some sort of drama in at least one story arc of mine still appealed to me, hence this. It could definitely be perceived as a blatant way to ease Terho's chances of a second title, I'll admit, but whether Axel was leading the championship or stuck dead last it would have happened anyways.

Besides, I've still got the Bitten Heroes hurdle to clear.


That [redacted] is likely a team submission based on older RP posts... I'm seeing we'll have a big rivalry on our hands, given how much Jean hates both Terho and Axel right now. I must confess, my (prewritten) document stating how testing to become a Scuderia Grotti driver will work (for next season) blatantly says "If you're an Abovian, you will not be accepted into the test."

This should be interesting...

The Redvale wrote:I actually really like the pink and black version of the logo! I'm going to have my own version of the thread art up maybe, when my computer is fixed. For now, should I go ahead and make the interest thread?


To me, the pink and black logo looks a little bit intense, I'd say something red (with the black) would work better. My favorite pictures I created are the 2009 and 2013 ones. And yes, we should probably make the interest thread so that this thread doesn't turn into that. Put up the link in this thread once it's ready.

And as for formatting, I'll put up a full set of rules my unnamed committee is suggesting towards WGP2 in the interest thread. It'll be open for discussion, it's just my idea.
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Postby The Redvale » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:52 pm

Here's the link.

Feel free to repost some of this stuff to there and also to discuss any ideas on the formatting or anything else about the competition.
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Postby Esmerel » Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:58 pm

The Redvale wrote:Here's the link.

Feel free to repost some of this stuff to there and also to discuss any ideas on the formatting or anything else about the competition.


Great. But the image you used that I made did come out a little blurry. Let me fix it up.

EDIT:
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