The World Bowl Discussion Thread (OOC, version II)

[The Transmondian Commonwealth]

I don't think two games is enough evidence to say FFR reset your bonus. It's two games.

[Saint Kanye]

Even though I was the only one in my group who RPed more than a roster, but still got booted, I ain't mad. Rank came into play there.

[Banija]

I would like to officially protest against the current hosts of the World Bowl, the Free Republics for abusing of his powers as a host. FFR constantly resets my RP bonus to 0 for no reason.

It happened during the Baptism of Fire 70. I complained ICly about the fact that I was playing again against Hapilopper in the playoffs after playing against him in the group stage. Some hosts are switching two nations to avoid nations playing again against each other in the playoffs but the FFR didn't do it. Then the next game against Hapilopper, I lost 8-2, which makes me think the FFR resetted my RP bonus to 0.

Then, now in the World Bowl 38, I made a mistake by choosing Vangaziland's scorers when he didn't allow us to do it. I appologize and he said it's fine and that it was well-written and he picked the same scorers as me in his RP. I thought about erasing and redoing my RP before FFR grades our RPs but because Vangaziland liked what I written (even though he didn't want us to choose his scorers), I left it like I wrote it.

The reason why I didn't see Vangaziland's RP permissions is because on that day I was in a hurry, I was affraid to miss the cutoff. He posted his roster and I started RPing assuming it was ok to choose his scorers.

I also complained ICly that 5 games was too short.

Then the nexyt matchday I lose 27-21 in overtime against an unranked team who posted his roster and didn't RP. Then I lose 47-6 against Drawkland. I would think a team who posted roster and RPed a few times, like me, would lose against Drawkland by a tigher margin. Which makes me think the FFR abused his powers again and resettied again my RP bonus.

I officially protest and ask the Free Republics ro re-scorinate matchdays 4 and 5.

The reason why I didn't post this request earlier is because I was busy the past 3 days. Thank you.

ps- I'm never gonna vote for a host bid by the FFR again.

I would personally say that publicly accusing a host of resetting your RP bonus to zero because you didn't like the format would be a very serious allegation.

Hosts, especially ones as experienced as FFR, won't let things like that happen. And any time a RP bonus is reset to zero(for a very serious allegation), hosts would generally at least TG the user and tell them why.

I will say, you have to remember that this is not strictly a writing competition. RPing helps your chances of winning, as it should. But RPing doesn't guarantee anything. This is a tournament where Ko-oren was knocked out as a RPing defending champion in the group stages. I myself was knocked out as a RPing Pot 2 side after three games.

It's why we have Margaret.

I do understand the frustration, I really do. There's no tournament where those kind of inexplicable losses frustrate me like the World Bowl, personally speaking. But that's how it goes. You can never forget about the Third R. Sometimes the luck is not on your side. You just gotta chalk it up to Margaret, make a bigger sacrifice at the Great Pond next time, and just come back next time.

[Free Republics]

The groups names, randomized groups and schedule are up in the 2nd post of the tournament thread. The stadiums for the 2nd group stage and the double elimination round are now up in the IC information post (3rd post of the tournament thread). The World Bowl will return to action 70-72 hours from now.

[Ranoria]

100% with Banj here. RP bonus helps, without a doubt, and perhaps the 5 game first stage was too short, but regardless, this is a sports simulator. The fucking New York Giants best the Patriots in 2007. This kind of thing happens, fortunately, otherwise it would be boring.

I’d like to remind everyone that as frustrating as these can be, they’re also a lot of fun, and Free Republics is probably sitting there scratching his head right now, because he didn’t do anything wrong and he has no way of proving that.

Now look, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t upset when i got knocked out in the first round of this thing. Pretty sure I was in my first two seasons, or not making the tournament in the NSCF, which has happened as well. But to accuse FR of resetting your RO bonus is to accuse him of basically rigging this entire competition, which, while plausible, is certainly a hefty accusation. At that point, why even ask him to re-scorinate matches 4 and 5 if he’s got it out for you anyway? I’ve tested xKoronate myself and hitting the reset button isn’t that hard, but these NS sports leagues are grounded on trusting the hosts to do their jobs. Without an absolute anomaly (say, a former powerhouse winning just one game or going winless with losses by a huge margin), then you might have a case. As it is, seems like a hail marry pass connected or a last ditch lateral play worked.

[Saint Kanye]

The fucking New York Giants best the Patriots in 2007.

And the Ravens, who everyone thought would win the SB, got their asses whipped this year.

[Newmanistan]

Congratulations to the champs.
This format grew on me, I must say. Makes sense for (our) football.

[Drawkland]

Congratulations to the champs.
This format grew on me, I must say. Makes sense for (our) football.

I almost loved this format. Almost

The ranks may be updated very soon, btw. Hopefully.

[Northwest Kalactin]

So seeing that we might have signups in a few weeks we should probably get ranks done, right?

[Drawkland]

So seeing that we might have signups in a few weeks we should probably get ranks done, right?

It would seem that I forgot to post on this thread that the ranks were updated, but yes, they've been updated since mid-February.

Link here! Hit me up if you find any issues.

[Banija]

Hey guys!

I will say- I want to sincerely apologise for the gap between the last World Bowl and this one. The last one ended early February.

I was going to put up sign-ups in late March, but did not because I feared counter programming the WC. Clearly I was incorrect in when that would start (I assumed April) so I'll apologize.

But I have not forgotten. I'm still keeping an eye out here- look for around first or second week of June for signups to get going.

I also wear the hat of World Bowl President not by Election, but by last man standing with the password. So at that time, we'll simultaneously conduct elections so we can have an accountable and elected President and Vice President going forward. I'll make sure the World Bowl Assembly is updated.

Football is coming! Get excited.

[Allamunnic States]

Wanted to apologize for dropping off the face of the earth again. We do need to have those elections re: WB president, I think, although fwiw I think Banija is a very capable interim president so no objections there.

[The Transmondian Commonwealth]

fwiw I think Banija is a very capable interim president so no objections there.

Yeah, I have no objections either.

[World Bowl]

Signups are open for World Bowl XXXIX.

I will also say this- we'll be running Presidential elections at the same time as signups. I still need to update the World Bowl Assembly, but once I finish doing that, I'll kick off elections that will coincide with the host selection process.

Also, I'm terrible because I let this nation CTE. But the old World Bowl flag was really cool. Does anyone have it? I'd like to restore that to this account, if possible.

[World Bowl]

As promised, we will have Presidential elections!

The updated membership of the World Bowl Assembly is here for convenience.

Any member of the World Bowl Assembly may nominate anybody from their ranks to serve as World Bowl President. WBA members can make nominations privately to this account. Per the Constitution, WBA members also have the right to make nominations publicly, in this thread. There is no constitutional ban on self-nominations.

If there are any World Bowl Assembly members who do not wish to be considered for President, their nominations may pre-emptively be declined.

Any member who is nominated by at least two users is automatically considered a candidate for President, unless they choose to decline their nominations. The World Bowl Assembly shall vote on all users who achieve the minimum number of nominations.

Please either put any questions in this thread, or send them to this account. The World Bowl Presidency up for election shall last three cycles(WB 40-42), and will assume power at the conclusion of World Bowl XXXIX.

The deadline for nominations will be June 17th, 2020, at 11:59 PM EDT.

[World Bowl]

Shoutout to Northwest Kalactin for finding the proper flag for this account.

Also, no nominations for President have yet been made. There are slightly under 4.5 days left to make nominations for World Bowl President!

[Terre Septentrionale]

Can we nominate two people or more? Or we can only one person?

[Martune]

Hello there. Newbie here

[Banija]

Can we nominate two people or more? Or we can only one person?

The Constitution does not stop you from nominating multiple people. However you cannot nominate the same person multiple times.

[The Transmondian Commonwealth]

Shoutout to Northwest Kalactin for finding the proper flag for this account.

Also, no nominations for President have yet been made. There are slightly under 4.5 days left to make nominations for World Bowl President!

How do you feel about continuing to serve as president, but making it official?

(I'm giving Banija a nomination if he wants it.)

[Banija]

I'd be willing to serve officially in this capacity, yes.

[Delaclava]

NK, I'll take your question about double elimination here - and am happy to take any further questions about the bid on this thread, or by TG or DM:

Teams of course get a second chance, but that's more the "what" of double elimination rather than the "why"... My main motivation for proposing a double elimination stage was to keep more RPing teams involved at the end of the competition. Although the field will eventually narrow down to four and then two teams anyway, it culls the field more slowly, and affords the teams the opportunity to continue and develop their RPs.

[Northwest Kalactin]

NK, I'll take your question about double elimination here - and am happy to take any further questions about the bid on this thread, or by TG or DM:

Teams of course get a second chance, but that's more the "what" of double elimination rather than the "why"... My main motivation for proposing a double elimination stage was to keep more RPing teams involved at the end of the competition. Although the field will eventually narrow down to four and then two teams anyway, it culls the field more slowly, and affords the teams the opportunity to continue and develop their RPs.

Ok, sounds good! It’s definitely a more unconventional approach when it comes to NSS, but I really like it.

[Newmanistan]

Delaclava, if awarded the tournament, will you be putting yourself into Pot 1 for the Group draw? As an unranked, that can skew the group layout significantly. In WBC 38, for example, when I hosted as an unranked, I did not place myself in Pot 1, and it is not always precedent for a host to do this. This will have to be a big sticking point for me when considering your bid.

[Delaclava]

Delaclava, if awarded the tournament, will you be putting yourself into Pot 1 for the Group draw? As an unranked, that can skew the group layout significantly. In WBC 38, for example, when I hosted as an unranked, I did not place myself in Pot 1, and it is not always precedent for a host to do this. This will have to be a big sticking point for me when considering your bid.

I will place myself in the proper pot according to ranking alone. I will draw myself from that pot into Group A, but that is merely a naming convention, not something that would affect the competitive balance.