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Postby Tikariot » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:21 pm

As NWK threw his hat into the ring, well, onto the pitch, I also would like to go on record that I would be very interested in becoming a junior partner for a CoH or BoF bid this coming cycle.
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Postby Sylestone » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:23 pm

I’m interested in doing a BoF, too, if we can complete it by the New Year. Preferably a senior host, of course.
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Postby Chromatika » Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:31 pm

If we are throwing hats, I am always looking for a senior host for the World Cup itself.
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Postby Travislavania » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:54 pm

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Postby Havynwilde » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:02 am

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Interested in having a junior partner who can make graphics? Do you want a lot of sarcasm? Do you like football? Do you realize Arsenal is the best football club to ever grace the earth? Are you surprised Razen has lasted 5+ months in one nation? If so dm me if you're interested in a junior partner for a COH.
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Postby Mavinet » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:12 am

Havynwilde wrote:Do you realize Arsenal is the best football club to ever grace the earth?


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Postby Sarzonia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:19 am

I still don't have reliable access to a computer so I won't be hosting anything that can't accommodate the mobile scorinator for the foreseeable future.
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Postby Nyowani Kitara » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:16 pm

We have a scorinator that works on mobile?
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Postby Sarzonia » Mon Oct 26, 2020 1:57 pm

Nyowani Kitara wrote:We have a scorinator that works on mobile?


Yes. I used it for the Mike Sarzo Memorial Trophy as a knockouts-only tournament and I used it for the NS World Cup of Masters.

I believe Vilita created it.
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Postby Nyowani Kitara » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:06 pm

Huh. Got a link that can be provided?
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Postby Strike » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:16 pm

Nyowani Kitara wrote:Huh. Got a link that can be provided?


http://vssko.atlantianoceania.com/

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Postby Northwest Kalactin » Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:44 pm

Spreadsheets also work on mobile, such as the IFCF scorinator. (Although the last time I tried to use it on my phone, my phone tried to fry it.)
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Postby The Sarian » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:05 pm

Northwest Kalactin wrote:Spreadsheets also work on mobile, such as the IFCF scorinator. (Although the last time I tried to use it on my phone, my phone tried to fry it.)

Are there any spreadsheet scorinators going around? I've had to scorinate each game separately using Vilita's one for the last two domestic seasons.
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Postby Northwest Kalactin » Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:14 pm

The Sarian wrote:
Northwest Kalactin wrote:Spreadsheets also work on mobile, such as the IFCF scorinator. (Although the last time I tried to use it on my phone, my phone tried to fry it.)

Are there any spreadsheet scorinators going around? I've had to scorinate each game separately using Vilita's one for the last two domestic seasons.

I think SQIS was a spreadsheet originally, and there are some older excel based ones that you can probably grab from users that were around back when those were used more. If you need something to simulate a league and can’t run xkoranate or NSFS, I used leaguesimulator.eu for a good while in the NKSL, and it was okay for domestic leagues, but it isn’t fit for an international competition.
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Postby Audioslavia » Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:51 pm

What follows is a memo from Unofficial World Championship Committee President Jeremiah J. Jaffacake. The 'J' is a power initial. It stands for 'Power'

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Fans of The Idiot Project will already know this, but I'm putting it out there for the rest of you.

Episode 4 of The Idiot Project tracked the Unofficial World Championship from its inception (World Cup 1) to the modern day, with the title changing hands like a boxing or wrestling belt, being passed from the reigning champion to whichever team beats them in a competitive game. The current champions of the only remaining active belt are Equestria, after their defeat of Banija on the opening day of the AOCAF Cup. The holders of the Lineal Championship - the very same one held by Crosshill in World Cup 1 - are Al Qurija, a puppet of Juvencus that last entered a competitive tournament in cycle 80 while Free Republics recently departed with an interim belt that had been created in cycle 75. Another Interim Belt was lost in cycle 9 after the departure of Endray Island.

For the rules regarding how and when the belt can change hands, and how and why an Interim belt might be created, here is the official rulebook.

UNOFFICIAL WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP COMMITTEE (UWCC)

Rules and Regulations concerning the Unofficial World Championship (UWC)


  1. To become Unofficial World Champion, you must defeat the current Unofficial World Champion in a competitive international football match.
  2. The game must be played in one of the following tournaments:
    World Cup Qualifying
    World Cup Finals
    Baptism of Fire
    Cup of Harmony
    AOCAF Cup
    Copa Rushmori
    Campionato Esportiva
    Independent Associations Cup
    Any game which the UWCC explicitly sanctions as an UWC title match.

  3. If the match ends in a draw, the champion retains their championship UNLESS one of the following conditions are met:
    If extra time is played in the match, the winner after extra time takes the title
    If a penalty shoot-out is played, the winner of the penalty shoot-out takes the title

  4. Only the result of an individual match is taken into account. Should an Unofficial World Champion be scheduled to play a two-legged match against a challenger, the two games should be considered individual matches and judged accordingly.
  5. The only way for the current champion to lose their title is by losing a football match according to rules 1 - 4. Therefore, if a champion retires from international football, they keep their title forever. They become known as Champion Emeritus / the Emeritus Champion and their title becomes known as the Emeritus Championship or the Emeritus Title.
  6. If the current champion retires from international football, a new Unofficial World Champion will be crowned. Retiring is described as one or more of the following.
    The nation ceases to exist
    The nation declares retirement from international football, whether temporary or permanent
    The nation is assumed to be retired from international football, whether temporarily or permanently

  7. Upon a champion’s retirement, the winner of the next World Cup Final will be given the new Unofficial World Championship title. The new Unofficial World Championship should be considered equal in stature to the retired championship.
  8. Upon their return to international football, the Emeritus Champion will defend their original title according to rules 1 to 4. Any 'new' titles created since the Emeritus Champion's retirement will be given the status of Interim Championship. The Interim Championship will be defended according to rules 1 to 4. Both Emeritus and Interim World Championships will be recognised as equal. Both holders should be considered Unofficial World Champions.
  9. The Emeritus Championship and the Interim Championship may be unified if the two holders play against one another. The winner will be given the honour of being sole Unofficial World Champion. They may carry only the oldest of the two belts they win. The newer of the titles must be given back to the Unofficial World Championship Committee.
  10. Any team holding both the Unofficial World Championship and NS World Cup will be considered Undisputed Champions of the World until either title is lost.

Amendments

The Turoki Amendment
October 2007


An Unofficial World Championship title won by the nation of Vilita or the nation of Turori may NOT be defended by the nation of Vilita & Turori. Likewise, an Unofficial World Championship won by Vilita & Turori may NOT be defended individually by its constituent nations

The Hokuto Amendment
January 2016


An Unofficial World Championship title won by the nation of Unified Sunrise Islands may NOT be defended individually by the constituent nations of Unified Sunrise Islands for as long as Unified Sunrise Islands, or their successor nation Kita-Hinode, are active in international football. Likewise, an Unofficial World Championship won by Northern Sunrise Islands, Western Sunrise Islands, Eastern Sunrise Islands (etc) may NOT be defended by the Unified Sunrise Islands or Kita-Hinode


You can track the lineage of the belt via watching Episode 4 of The Idiot Project, which runs to just under two hours (!) or you can do it via https://tinyurl.com/unofficialworldchampionship, which links directly to the database I made to track this shit. The database wasn't necessarily made to be user friendly, but you should be able to follow along using the 'Emeritus Display' and 'Interim Display' tabs. The current championship is being tracked on the 'Historic Display' tab for reasons too boring to go into.
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Postby Equestrian States » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:26 pm

Audioslavia wrote:The current champions of the only remaining active belt are Equestria, after their defeat of Banija on the opening day of the AOCAF Cup.

So the Banijans had the honor of inaugurating a shiny, brand new unofficial world championship belt and immediately lost it in their very first title defense on home soil to their fiercest rivals?

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Postby NSWC Signups » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:52 pm

It's been about three and a half weeks since the finish of the last World Cup, time for the cycle to begin anew:

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Postby Ko-oren » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:08 am

It's almost like the UWC doesn't want to exist. Jeremy Jaffacake brought the belt into this world, it's up to Jeremy Jaffacake to do as the belt wants and take it out of this world again.
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Postby Commonwealth of Baker Park » Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:16 am

Ko-oren wrote:It's almost like the UWC doesn't want to exist. Jeremy Jaffacake brought the belt into this world, it's up to Jeremy Jaffacake to do as the belt wants and take it out of this world again.


I don't think J"J"J can stop the momentum now. It's a Georgia Championship Wrestling multiverse now...go read up on some of that, yutes. ;)
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Postby Filindostan » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:45 am

If anyone's looking for a junior bidder for the BoF or CoH this cycle, give me a ping on TG or on Discord and let's see whether we can work out a competitive bid.
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Postby Tikariot » Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:24 am

We have a LOT of applicants for junior bidders this cycle, haha.
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Postby Qzvarkian Qaz » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:40 pm

So I've been having issues getting onto the forums longer then a lot of people. They finally worked for me and I've now since found that my puppet (This one) has been cut.

This is the second time a puppet nation of mine has been cut. It happened in a Campianato Esportiva when Starcom Racing (Another nation I run) was cut from the tournament due to numbers. Neither time was I given a heads up in any capacity. Given circumstances of owning multiple nations and having to juggle work, it means I only check into most my non-main nations a couple times a week, So I usually don't keep up as well.

I want to request one thing from this.

If any tournament host has to cut puppets to keep numbers up, then please send out a DM to the nations primary nation letting them know if their puppet has been cut off

This has happened to me twice in three cycles now, It's simply good etiqute to warn people. especially if they had long thought ideas for their secondary nation.
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Postby Strike » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:47 pm

No Nation has been Cut from the World Cup at this point. There is not even a host for the World Cup yet.

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Postby Southwest Eastnorth » Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:12 pm

Strike wrote:No Nation has been Cut from the World Cup at this point. There is not even a host for the World Cup yet.



Well is there an OOC Thread for regional aside from the IAC once?

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Postby Equestrian States » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:58 am

Southwest Eastnorth wrote:Well is there an OOC Thread for regional aside from the IAC once?

No, but that's what the RMBs are for. Also, AO has its own offsite forum.
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