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Postby Lymantatia » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:07 pm

Ooh, the new WCDT! (sniffs) And it's got that new WCDT smell.
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Postby Polar Islandstates » Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:17 am

It comes in a can, you know.
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Postby HopNation » Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:51 am

Are we still slated for the Saturday Draw?

Equestrian States wrote:Saturday, November 15, 2014: Qualifying Draw

The posted schedule and cutoff times are subject to change by the hosts. Any changes to the original plan will be announced in the WCDT and will be edited into this post.


Haven't seen any posts to the contrary but just wanted to check. Do you have a time for the draw? Will it be posted during ES/Felix's cut-off window? Also any insight as to the first MD?
I might have overlooked that along the way, sorry if it's in there and I missed it

Do we know what SJG/Mizuyuki cut-off will be?
yes I know it's a long ways out, but didn't see it
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Postby San Jose Guayabal » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:54 am

HopNation wrote:Are we still slated for the Saturday Draw?

Equestrian States wrote:Saturday, November 15, 2014: Qualifying Draw

The posted schedule and cutoff times are subject to change by the hosts. Any changes to the original plan will be announced in the WCDT and will be edited into this post.


Haven't seen any posts to the contrary but just wanted to check. Do you have a time for the draw? Will it be posted during ES/Felix's cut-off window? Also any insight as to the first MD?
I might have overlooked that along the way, sorry if it's in there and I missed it

Do we know what SJG/Mizuyuki cut-off will be?
yes I know it's a long ways out, but didn't see it


All the information will be posted in the thread, most likely in after the afternoon (sorry for the redundance), cut-offs will be setted in that same edit that will include pots and groups. Have patience.
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I have lots of patients, just trying to plan ahead a little.
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BOF 54 - Group 7 Winner - Round of 16
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:19 pm

So when will ranks be released?
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Postby Jeckland » Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:22 pm

United States Of Devonta wrote:So when will ranks be released?

They have been - but please don't post about them in this thread. Check the NSWC nation's sig.
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Postby Free Republics » Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:24 pm

Jeckland wrote:
United States Of Devonta wrote:So when will ranks be released?

They have been - but please don't post about them in this thread. Check the NSWC nation's sig.


Rank updates aren't announced on this thread, so that we don't get posts about where so-and-so is ranked.
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Games of the XIII Olympiad Host / NS Olympic Council President
1st: DBC 28, X Winter Olympics, Independents Cup 4, CoH 66
2nd: World Cup 68, DBC 27, U15WC 8, UWCFA Gold Cup I, BoI 15, 2nd Imperial Chap Olympiad, NSCF 11
3rd: World Cups 71 & 81, DBC 29, UWCFC Gold Cup III, GCoS 1
Qualified: World Cups 68, 69, 71, 72, 73, 79
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Postby Equestrian States » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:36 pm

The group draw, fixtures, and roster links have now been added to the RP thread OP.

Please refer to this post for several notes on the rankings relevant to the WCQ draw.
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Postby Equestrian States » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:46 pm

...And, having just noticed a small mistake in the draw pots which had 235th-ranked Polkopia as an unranked team, several minor changes have been made to the draw, effecting Groups 4, 10, and 16 as a result of changes in pot assignments for Paymina and Octinstine as a result of the Polkopia correction.

Apologies for any inconvenience.
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Postby Free Republics » Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:08 pm

Equestrian States wrote:...And, having just noticed a small mistake in the draw pots which had 235th-ranked Polkopia as an unranked team, several minor changes have been made to the draw, effecting Groups 4, 10, and 16 as a result of changes in pot assignments for Paymina and Octinstine as a result of the Polkopia correction.

Apologies for any inconvenience.


SJG requested on IRC that I bring this to the attention of all of the hosts and the rank updater:

The rankings spreadsheet contains a number of errors (scroll down to host notes), including the double inclusion of all 5 nations that underwent IC name changes since last cycle (with the versions containing their current names having a rank of 0, an extremely serious error since 3 of the nations affected are currently ranked 10th, 11th and 24th, respectively), Somstratzka and the 2 different Unolias.
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1st: DBC 28, X Winter Olympics, Independents Cup 4, CoH 66
2nd: World Cup 68, DBC 27, U15WC 8, UWCFA Gold Cup I, BoI 15, 2nd Imperial Chap Olympiad, NSCF 11
3rd: World Cups 71 & 81, DBC 29, UWCFC Gold Cup III, GCoS 1
Qualified: World Cups 68, 69, 71, 72, 73, 79
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Postby Azrea » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:47 pm

Hello everyone!

I recently signed up for the World Cup's 70th edition, yet wasn't placed in any qualifying group/stage.
:( :(

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Postby Free Republics » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:50 pm

Azrea wrote:Hello everyone!

I recently signed up for the World Cup's 70th edition, yet wasn't placed in any qualifying group/stage.
:( :(


You let your nation CTE before the draw and didn't return until after the draw took place. That's why you were left out of the draw.
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1st: DBC 28, X Winter Olympics, Independents Cup 4, CoH 66
2nd: World Cup 68, DBC 27, U15WC 8, UWCFA Gold Cup I, BoI 15, 2nd Imperial Chap Olympiad, NSCF 11
3rd: World Cups 71 & 81, DBC 29, UWCFC Gold Cup III, GCoS 1
Qualified: World Cups 68, 69, 71, 72, 73, 79
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Postby Azrea » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:53 pm

Ooooh, alrighty then.
There is always a next one.. :p

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Postby The Licentian Isles » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:59 pm

While I'm popping in and looking through threads...

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=186354&start=12425#p22345086

No memory of the result of that game, but I remember seeing that goal and questioning how Howard had managed it. There's been a couple of other occasions of it happening too; our current number one Andy Lonergan scored one while he was at Preston, and I seem to remember Kasper Schmeichel scoring a goal for Leicester not long ago, although that may have been from a corner, come to think of it.

And having just looked it up, it did finish 2-1 to the Whites. For all of those on here who are Everton fans...

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Postby Yttribia » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:13 pm

The Licentian Isles wrote:While I'm popping in and looking through threads...

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=186354&start=12425#p22345086

No memory of the result of that game, but I remember seeing that goal and questioning how Howard had managed it. There's been a couple of other occasions of it happening too; our current number one Andy Lonergan scored one while he was at Preston, and I seem to remember Kasper Schmeichel scoring a goal for Leicester not long ago, although that may have been from a corner, come to think of it.

And having just looked it up, it did finish 2-1 to the Whites. For all of those on here who are Everton fans...

(Image)


You're a Bolton supporter? Well...

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Oddly enough, BNB is a Preston supporter.
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Postby The Royal Kingdom of Quebec » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:17 pm

Yttribia wrote:However, you've got a player in Beauchemin who looks like he belongs in a retirement home at first glance.

Nephara wrote:Weaknesses: Beauchemin is 54 years old. He'll be in a fucking wheelchair when the likes of Logan Murdoch's done with him.


What's with all those ageist quotes? Haven't you guys heard of Jaromir Jagr, Teemu Selanne or most importantly of all, Chris Chelios? :P

Not that I mind too much of hearing those quotes at all, but Beauchemin is playing because he's good. Sure, he may have 6 grandchildren, but he's still fit enough to play 42 consecutive NT games :p

The best part of it all, he didn't start playing for Grim Reapers until WC68, when he's 50 or 52, I think.
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Postby The Licentian Isles » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:18 am

Yttribia wrote:
The Licentian Isles wrote:While I'm popping in and looking through threads...

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=186354&start=12425#p22345086

No memory of the result of that game, but I remember seeing that goal and questioning how Howard had managed it. There's been a couple of other occasions of it happening too; our current number one Andy Lonergan scored one while he was at Preston, and I seem to remember Kasper Schmeichel scoring a goal for Leicester not long ago, although that may have been from a corner, come to think of it.

And having just looked it up, it did finish 2-1 to the Whites. For all of those on here who are Everton fans...

(Image)


You're a Bolton supporter? Well...

Image

Oddly enough, BNB is a Preston supporter.


No bad news for us when we just battered Wigan and moved out of the relegation zone while we were at it. Neil Lennon's Super White Army and all that.

Not that odd if you think about it; he is from Preston, after all ;)
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Postby Jeckland » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:38 am

The Licentian Isles wrote:
Yttribia wrote:
You're a Bolton supporter? Well...

Image

Oddly enough, BNB is a Preston supporter.


No bad news for us when we just battered Wigan and moved out of the relegation zone while we were at it. Neil Lennon's Super White Army and all that.

Not that odd if you think about it; he is from Preston, after all ;)

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Postby Starblaydia » Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:28 am

Vilita wrote:3) This is the NSWC discussion thread, not the RL World Cup discussion thread. We probably won't have any confusion with this current incarnation, and occasional drifting into reality is likely, but don't forget what the point of this thread is for. Its not a chat thread nor is it a place to have detailed discussions about Manchester United or Brazil's goalkeeping.

Preston, Bolton, Wigan, Warrington and Burnley are all included in this point too, folks, as well as all points outside of Greater Manchester. Keep it on-topic, please.
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Postby Audioslavia » Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:42 am

The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:What's with all those ageist quotes?


I hardly think it's ageist to imply that a fifty-four year-old midfielder is old. At fifty-four he's literally closer to pension-age than he is to the average age a footballer retires at. None of the examples you gave are footballers and all of them either retired in their early forties or, in Chelios's case, retired in their late forties after first taking a number of large steps down through the league system.

If you have a fifty-four year-old player on your national team, and all your other players are of reasonable ages, then you should be prepared to RP a reasonable excuse for his age, or else people will dismiss you as a godmodder.

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Postby Alasdair I Frosticus » Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:55 am

Audioslavia wrote:
The Royal Kingdom of Quebec wrote:What's with all those ageist quotes?


I hardly think it's ageist to imply that a fifty-four year-old midfielder is old. At fifty-four he's literally closer to pension-age than he is to the average age a footballer retires at. None of the examples you gave are footballers and all of them either retired in their early forties or, in Chelios's case, retired in their late forties after first taking a number of large steps down through the league system.

If you have a fifty-four year-old player on your national team, and all your other players are of reasonable ages, then you should be prepared to RP a reasonable excuse for his age, or else people will dismiss you as a godmodder.


Fifty Four?

Juan Tzimisces wants to know if that means he's even out of the womb yet.


The serious point is that it obviously can be done if you RP these things appropriately; but for those teams that aren't managed by ageless immortals who are dating deities, this list may prove a useful RL reference:
http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/oldest-youngest.html

Excluding someone who turned out for Sark - and may not therefore count - the oldest man ever to turn out for his RL national side was just shy of 49 years old.
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Postby Free Republics » Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:45 am

Alasdair I Frosticus wrote:
Audioslavia wrote:
I hardly think it's ageist to imply that a fifty-four year-old midfielder is old. At fifty-four he's literally closer to pension-age than he is to the average age a footballer retires at. None of the examples you gave are footballers and all of them either retired in their early forties or, in Chelios's case, retired in their late forties after first taking a number of large steps down through the league system.

If you have a fifty-four year-old player on your national team, and all your other players are of reasonable ages, then you should be prepared to RP a reasonable excuse for his age, or else people will dismiss you as a godmodder.


Fifty Four?

Juan Tzimisces wants to know if that means he's even out of the womb yet.


The serious point is that it obviously can be done if you RP these things appropriately; but for those teams that aren't managed by ageless immortals who are dating deities, this list may prove a useful RL reference:
http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/oldest-youngest.html

Excluding someone who turned out for Sark - and may not therefore count - the oldest man ever to turn out for his RL national side was just shy of 49 years old.


Are we seriously having this discussion while the current senior host of the World Cup is a nation comprised of sentient ponies?
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1st: DBC 28, X Winter Olympics, Independents Cup 4, CoH 66
2nd: World Cup 68, DBC 27, U15WC 8, UWCFA Gold Cup I, BoI 15, 2nd Imperial Chap Olympiad, NSCF 11
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Postby Starblaydia » Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:15 am

Free Republics wrote:Are we seriously having this discussion while the current senior host of the World Cup is a nation comprised of sentient ponies?

Ah, but they're all young ponies, right?
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Postby Semarland » Mon Nov 17, 2014 9:31 am

54 years old? National team? There should be an excuse for that, really. Especially if the rest of the team are of a realistic NT age.

EDIT: Ninja'd, didn't check. Sorry!
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