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Postby Third Asopia » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:50 am

Brusseldorf wrote:
Barunia wrote:Matchday 1 scores have been posted, but there is still of course 17 days to go, so don't be too disheartened :)

Thank you for your help :)
EDIT: Oh dear god I had the worst loss out of the lot...

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Postby Brusseldorf » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:37 am

Third Asopia wrote:Aw... Don’t worry. I had the same experience in the BoF. But what is important is to RP as that will boost your chances of winning.

Yes! I will remember to RP next match
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Postby Santa Regada » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:24 am

Brusseldorf wrote:
Third Asopia wrote:Aw... Don’t worry. I had the same experience in the BoF. But what is important is to RP as that will boost your chances of winning.

Yes! I will remember to RP next match

By the way, we have similarly named capitals (Calablanca, Casablanca). I think there is some fun to be had here eventually.

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Postby Alasdair I Frosticus » Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:50 pm

Could the hosts clarify whether the home team is listed first or second in individual scores in the scores thread?

The OP of the RP thread states that MD1 was 1v10, which would suggest that the Holy Empire was the home team against Brusseldorf (as assumed by Brusseldorf's RP). However the scores thread lists Brusseldorf first and the Holy Empire second, which would normally suggest that Brusseldorf was the home team.

This impacts my potential response to Brusseldorf's RP - eg whether his newspaper was IC'ly confused about the venue, or is listing the venue correctly.

Apologies if I've missed something and am OOC'ly confused.
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Postby Free Republics » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:31 pm

In the groups, you're listed 8th, Brusseldorf is listed 3rd and the schedule says 3v8.
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Postby Alasdair I Frosticus » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:35 pm

Free Republics wrote:In the groups, you're listed 8th, Brusseldorf is listed 3rd and the schedule says 3v8.


Gack; I confused rank with where I was listed in the group, didn't I? :blush:

In any case, Brusseldorf was the home team.

Brusseldorf, I've written the confusion over the venue into my RP, but note that you were playing at home.
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Postby Commonwealth of Baker Park » Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:05 pm

Alasdair I Frosticus wrote:
Free Republics wrote:In the groups, you're listed 8th, Brusseldorf is listed 3rd and the schedule says 3v8.


Italy's results against San Marino have been wins of 4-0, 4-0, and 8-0.


there's a reason why they are known as "San Marino Nil". ;)
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Postby Brusseldorf » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:13 pm

Ohhhh I thought it was to do with the pot number, so I got really confused as I thought I was versing quakmybush today...
Sorry about that... I can fix the RP or I guess I can just leave it cause it’s funny
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Postby Santa Regada » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:30 pm

*Insert incoherrent screaming about being ranked bottom in my group* Is it possible for your overall WC rank/KPB to go down? Because I think this qualifying campaign is going to result in that exactly.

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Postby Kita-Hinode » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:35 pm

Santa Regada wrote:*Insert incoherrent screaming about being ranked bottom in my group* Is it possible for your overall WC rank/KPB to go down? Because I think this qualifying campaign is going to result in that exactly.

I think so, yeah. You got to check the ranks to see if the cycle you'll lose was your best one to be sure though.
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Postby Free Republics » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:05 pm

Kita-Hinode wrote:
Santa Regada wrote:*Insert incoherrent screaming about being ranked bottom in my group* Is it possible for your overall WC rank/KPB to go down? Because I think this qualifying campaign is going to result in that exactly.

I think so, yeah. You got to check the ranks to see if the cycle you'll lose was your best one to be sure though.


Its absolutely possible to lose ground, especially if you're already near the top of the rankings.

Before I took the FFR out of the WC for 2 or 3 cycles, my rank dropped from #4 prior to the WC72 finals to somewhere in the 30s or 40s over the course of several cycles of bad WC group stages and non-qualifications.

You can determine whether you need to do better or worse than last cycle to hold your rank by adding your values in AA and AC and dividing those by 2 and comparing the results to the sum of your values in AC and AE. Currently, I have 8, 3.44 and 2.11 points for my last 3 qualifying runs. 3.44/2 = 1.72. 8/2 = 4. 1.72+4 = 5.72 while 3.44+2.11 = 5.55 so I will gain KPB points if I get 36 points in qualifying.

You can figure out exactly how many points you need to hold your rank by determining the difference between those values and subtracting it from the total in AA. Then divide that by 4 and multiply by 18. For me, I need 7.83 KPB points (5.72 - 5.55 = 0.17 and 8-0.17 = 7.83) which comes out to 35.235 points in WCQs.

In Santa Regada's case, they have 6 points from WCQ 81, 0 from WCQ 80 and 1.5 from WCQ 79 so would have a KPB of 3 with a winless WCQ. To obtain 4.5 KPB points, they would need to obtain 20.25 points in Qualifying, which is 6.75 points worse than their performance in both WCQ 81 and WCQ 79. That's possible but would probably be an unlucky qualifying run even for a non-RPing team that is ranked 101st.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:05 am

Santa Regada wrote:*Insert incoherrent screaming about being ranked bottom in my group* Is it possible for your overall WC rank/KPB to go down? Because I think this qualifying campaign is going to result in that exactly.


Of course it is.

The Holy Empire were ranked in the top 5 (I think) in WC81, and are now 12th. They've been ranked 1st at least twice, and have fallen as low as (I think) the 20s since they were last ranked 1st.

I know there are any number of nations who'd love to be 12th, never mind 1st; but variation in rank over time is simply part and parcel of WC participation.

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Postby Alasdair I Frosticus » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:24 am

Santa Regada wrote:*Insert incoherrent screaming about being ranked bottom in my group*


Happier today? :p
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Postby Third Asopia » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:51 am

Winning to Sulsuland, drawing with Eastfield Lodge, then losing to Brusseldorf... What a campaign.
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Postby Brusseldorf » Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:34 am

Group 3 is the best group obviously
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Oddly enough, this is probably not the strangest interpretation of "Squornshelous" the NSWC has seen.

Bonus points for ROOMNOONT STOOTS though
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Postby Mriin » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:13 pm

Squornshelan Remnant States wrote:
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Oddly enough, this is probably not the strangest interpretation of "Squornshelous" the NSWC has seen.

Bonus points for ROOMNOONT STOOTS though

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Postby Third Asopia » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:39 am

Brusseldorf wrote:Group 3 is the best group obviously

Eh na.
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If anyone knows what I did to royally piss off Margaret, please let me know. This quali campaign is painful so far.
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Krytenia wrote:If anyone knows what I did to royally piss off Margaret, please let me know. This quali campaign is painful so far.


Have a +5 style modifier I guess.
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Postby Filindostan » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:57 am

Krytenia wrote:If anyone knows what I did to royally piss off Margaret, please let me know. This quali campaign is painful so far.


You didn't offer enough rubber chickens. But maybe you had more than we did.

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Filindostan wrote:
Krytenia wrote:If anyone knows what I did to royally piss off Margaret, please let me know. This quali campaign is painful so far.


You didn't offer enough rubber chickens. But maybe you had more than we did.

We might offer not only rubber chickens, but rubber cows, dogs, cats, and add a little bit of rubber humans as well.

We had some success, back in the day, with real [rather than rubber] ostriches...
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