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Postby Falcus » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:42 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Starblaydia wrote:"This Is now the correct spelling of our nation and we're updating all the signs, passports, etc" is an unusual one, to be sure


Though it has some precedents in RL, on both the local and national levels, so it shouldn't really be a problem.


It's not unprecedented in the WC, even. At one point this nation renamed from "Falconwhereveryouare" to "Falcus" merely because of foreign dignitaries constantly complaining about having to type it out in full.

Edit: Actually, just this cycle Saltstead did it.
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Postby Apox » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:32 am

I mean we've seen nation name changes before, like the ones Falcus pointed out, but also FSSO --> Eura and New Sideburn --> Nephara also spring to mind.

And if San Regada is proposing becoming Santa Regada but still posting with San Regada, then there's also precedent for that (THE's account being Alasdair I Frosticus, but nation name The Holy Empire).
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Postby Alasdair I Frosticus » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:30 pm

Apox wrote:And if San Regada is proposing becoming Santa Regada but still posting with San Regada, then there's also precedent for that (THE's account being Alasdair I Frosticus, but nation name The Holy Empire).


That one's potentially slightly different; the full title of the Holy Empire on its NS homepage is 'The Holy Empire of Alasdair I Frosticus'. Unusually, for RP purposes this account goes by the editable nation classification rather than the uneditable nation name; but I'm still using part of the official nation name.

But the key point is that I don't think any of us mind San Regada changing the nation name IC'ly.
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Postby South Covello » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:17 pm

Starblaydia wrote:
Santa Regada wrote:just want to know if it is possible without having to start again from scratch in terms of the WC.

Name changes in the World Cup have to come with roleplayed successor states - the KPB rank transfers over onky if it's essentially the same nation. Elves Security Forces becoming Valanora as part of a larger empire, Gregoryisgodistan having a revolution and becoming South Covello, that sort of thing.

"This Is now the correct spelling of our nation and we're updating all the signs, passports, etc" is an unusual one, to be sure, but as long as you can RP it as such then it's generally fine for the World Cup.


To clarify what Star said, although a name change isn't really a successor state, as nothing is succeeding anything, it would still be OK as it's the same nation. If it were something like Zaire/DR Congo, or Swaziland/eSwatini, where a nation just decides to change its name and nothing else, that would be OK too. Usually something other than the name changes too, as in the above examples, but it doesn't actually have to.

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Postby Saltstead » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:35 pm

Falcus wrote:Edit: Actually, just this cycle Saltstead did it.

You bet your hindquarters we did. :p

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Postby Squornshelan Remnant States » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:44 pm

I feel obligated to speak in support of San(ta) Regada, given the "Successor State" shenanigans I have planned for the next few cycles. In my case there's no KPB to inherit, but if I can (shortly) have two nations both claiming to be the same nation, surely someone else can add two letters to their name without consequence.
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Postby Free Republics » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:55 pm

In the event that San Regada overcomes a 10 point deficit with 4 matches to go and qualifies for the World Cup finals, they will be known as Santa Regada for the WC81 finals.
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Postby Mriin » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:23 pm

Squornshelan Remnant States wrote:I feel obligated to speak in support of San(ta) Regada, given the "Successor State" shenanigans I have planned for the next few cycles. In my case there's no KPB to inherit, but if I can (shortly) have two nations both claiming to be the same nation, surely someone else can add two letters to their name without consequence.


To be totally clear, there hasn't actually been a point against this at any point. We all just chimed in with additional examples because I guess we wanted to feel a part of the discussion :P
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Postby Squornshelan Remnant States » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:27 pm

Mriin wrote:
Squornshelan Remnant States wrote:I feel obligated to speak in support of San(ta) Regada, given the "Successor State" shenanigans I have planned for the next few cycles. In my case there's no KPB to inherit, but if I can (shortly) have two nations both claiming to be the same nation, surely someone else can add two letters to their name without consequence.


To be totally clear, there hasn't actually been a point against this at any point. We all just chimed in with additional examples because I guess we wanted to feel a part of the discussion :P


Well that's kind of what we do here I suppose. ;)
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Postby Starblaydia » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:00 am

Squornshelan Remnant States wrote:
Mriin wrote: To be totally clear, there hasn't actually been a point against this at any point. We all just chimed in with additional examples because I guess we wanted to feel a part of the discussion :P

Well that's kind of what we do here I suppose. ;)

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Postby Banija » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:03 am

Absolutely not! You spelt it, you're stuck with it! No more name changes for you, not ever! You're stuck with the original spelling for all of eternity!

:lol: Just kidding. Those name changes generally aren't a problem, as long as they're generally consistent acrpss the board(aka you don't use one spelling in one competition but a different spelling in another competition).
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Postby Squornshelan Remnant States » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:41 pm

Starblaydia wrote:
Squornshelan Remnant States wrote:Well that's kind of what we do here I suppose. ;)

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Postby Krytenia » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:31 am

Squornshelan Remnant States wrote:...given the "Successor State" shenanigans I have planned for the next few cycles. In my case there's no KPB to inherit, but if I can (shortly) have two nations both claiming to be the same nation...

Yup, there's preedent for this too.

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Postby Starblaydia » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:16 pm

I've literally just been mentioning West Starblaydia in the RP I'm writing right now. Spooky.
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Postby Vilita » Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:34 am

Just posting this as a PSA

If you were thinking of submitted a host bid for the Cup of Harmony it should have been submitted by around the halfway point of qualifying. There is already one bid ( Cassadaigua & Equestrian States ). With World Cup qualifying coming to a conclusion for most this evening, it should be apparent that if you have any intention of posting a competing bid it would need to be posted today, prior to the end of the qualifying campaign, in order to allow time for discussion and voting to take place.
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Postby Kita-Hinode » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:06 pm

Apox wrote:I mean we've seen nation name changes before, like the ones Falcus pointed out, but also FSSO --> Eura and New Sideburn --> Nephara also spring to mind.

Northern Sunrise Islands --> Unified Sunrise Islands. I still posted as NSI, though.
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Postby Banija » Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:35 pm

Host Announcement

Hey guys. We're gonna have to push back this cutoff by 24 hours. I've had a family emergency come up- there's no way I'll be able to finish grading and score tonight.

I apologize for any inconvenience.
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Postby Banija » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:17 pm

Host Announcement

Two things. These, of course, will be updated in the relevant OPs.

#1 With the schedule pushed back a day because of my own cutoff, the Playoff Schedule will change. The First Leg will be scorinated on Sunday, 9/23/2018, by FFR, while the Second Leg will be scorinated by yours truly on Tuesday, 9/25/2018. Our cutoff times will remain the same bar any announcement stating otherwise(8:00 AM EST for FFR; 10:00 PM EST for myself).

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Postby Free Republics » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:42 pm

Host Announcement

Since neither of us anticipated the CTE (which I literally discovered just minutes before the results were posted), I feel like we need to specifically state how we're going to handle scorinating extra time and penalties for the playoffs, if needed. In that scenario, we will be utilizing the method proposed by Equestrian States and Cassadaigua in their WC67 host bid.

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Postby Commonwealth of Baker Park » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:16 am

Qusmo wrote:From one hundred ninety two to forty, & soon to be thirty-two - then sixteen, eight, four, two, & then only one. Congratulations to all those which have made it this far, & congratulations to those who may not be in the final tournament or a playoff but performed better than they thought they would - or, failing that, to those who explored an RP, to those who challenged themselves, & to those who enjoyed the journey. Good luck to all who are still competing - & good luck to those who will compete in another tournament in the future.


And as told you in TG earlier, well done to you. You have put a lot of work into your RP and into boosting your profile and being an asset in the community. Your time will come I'm sure.
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Postby Geisenfried » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:10 am

Question in regards to the World Cup Committee -

As per 1.1.1.ii,
ii) Hosting a World Cup to its completion, which grants a nation permanent membership of the WCC. However, that user may only exercise their privileges as a WCC member as long as one of their nations has participated in the most recent World Cup.


Are we counting the "most recent World Cup" as the latest run to completion (i.e. 80) or the one currently in progress (i.e. 81)? As the latter would technically give me a vote.
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Postby Starblaydia » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:12 am

Geisenfried wrote:Question in regards to the World Cup Committee -

As per 1.1.1.ii,
ii) Hosting a World Cup to its completion, which grants a nation permanent membership of the WCC. However, that user may only exercise their privileges as a WCC member as long as one of their nations has participated in the most recent World Cup.


Are we counting the "most recent World Cup" as the latest run to completion (i.e. 80) or the one currently in progress (i.e. 81)? As the latter would technically give me a vote.

'Most recent' being a completed one, so WC80.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:53 am

Apologies for the lack of Holy Empire RPs over the last few days of qualifying; I've been a little under the weather.

I hope to be back on my feet again in time for the finals.

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