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World Cup 70 Cycle Host Team - EQS/SJG & FEL/MZY Bid

Postby Equestrian States » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:54 pm

AN OFFICIAL HOST BID FOR...

WORLD CUP 70
EQUESTRIAN STATES & SAN JOSÉ GUAYABAL

- AND -

CUP OF HARMONY 62
FELIX & MIZUYUKI

I. Introduction

The Equestrian States, San José Guayabal, Felix, and Mizuyuki proudly present to the World Cup Committee this bid to co-host the upcoming 70th World Cup and 62nd Cup of Harmony utilizing the Vilitan Plan for a four-host World Cup.

II. World Cup Hosts

Known throughout the multiverse for its majority population of sapient equines, the Equestrian States is a diverse and advanced island nation located in the far north of the Pony Lands region. Ruled by Princess Mi Amore Cadenza, the Equestrian States is a constitutional monarchy in name, though the Princess and the royal family hold considerably more political power than in most constitutional monarchies and thus play an active role in the country's government. Technologically, the nation is very advanced for one that only emerged from isolation a few decades ago, combining technology imported from its regional allies with magic to quickly modernize without the pollution seen in many countries which undergo rapid industrialization. Described by many as a pleasant utopia inhabited by a friendly and diverse population of numerous sapient species which happily welcomes foreigners, the Equestrian States is a natural host nation with an economy which thrives on tourism and sports.

The most popular sport in the Equestrian States is easily football, which is more commonly known as hoofball by the country's sapient ungulate locals, and the Equestrians have a respectable history of participation in the sport's premier international competitions. First appearing in the Baptism of Fire prior to World Cup 58, the Equestrian States has competed in every World Cup since, finally qualifying for the first time at the tournament's 64th edition. Over the course of the next four cycles, the Ponies quickly rose through the rankings, peaking at 15th following a second round appearance at World Cup 67. However, the last two years have not been kind to the Equestrians as poor officiating and bad luck have conspired to send the Ponies packing after the playoff stage two times, bringing the team's total number of playoff eliminations to six in six appearances, and leading some particularly superstitious supporters to believe that the team is cursed to always fall short at that final hurdle. Although no longer ranked as highly as they once were, the Ponies still boast an extremely talented squad which features a couple players who can be legitimately considered world-class athletes. With such a gifted team, the Equestrian States appears poised to once again rapidly climb up the rankings and once more compete with the best in the multiverse.

Located in southern Esportiva, San José Guayabal is a nation known for its environmental policies and claims one of its region's happiest populations. Governed by Queen Margaret I, the country is also a constitutional monarchy as its royal family plays a prominent role in Guayabalense society and is also politically active. Boasting a high HDI rating, San José Guayabal is an advanced nation which not long ago emerged from a period of civil war which ultimately led to the fall of a brutal communist regime but has quickly recovered thanks in part to the efficient work ethic of its people. With a beautiful environment, friendly population, and substantial infrastructure, San José Guayabal has a booming tourist industry that welcomes foreign travelers with open arms.

An emerging force in international football, San José Guayabal made its first appearance in the qualifiers for the 66th World Cup and has since managed to progress quickly through the rankings. The Guayabalenses qualified for the World Cup for the first time in just their third attempt at World Cup 68, stunning The Archregimancy along the way and finishing third in their finals group. Although the San José Guayabal national team was unable to repeat their qualifying run and missed the 69th World Cup finals thanks to a second-half collapse, they still made a decent run in the Cup of Harmony and reached the second round before being eliminated. With fairly recent successes in the World Cup and Cup of Harmony, as well as making runs to the quarterfinals and the final in the men's and women's football tournaments at the most recent Summer Olympics, San José Guayabal has a bright future in international football.

III. Cup of Harmony Hosts

Felix is a Federal Republic located in Esportiva between the continents Mardujsha and Terrabondante. Founded in 1875 after declaring independence from various nations, Felix has had a strong tradition of democracy which lasted well into the 21st century, but was temporarily killed off when the Nationalists overthrew the democratically elected government and formed a fascist state in its place. However, pro-democracy rebels were able to topple the authoritarian regime and are now slowly rebuilding Felix's infrastructure and democratic tradition. Although generally known for their kindness and acceptance of any faiths or sexualities, most Felixians are private about their religious beliefs and will be offended if a foreign tourist attempts to force them to reveal their own personal religious beliefs. An ethnically diverse nation, Felix has 6 official languages (Swedish, German, French, Italian, Spanish and English) and many Felixians are capable of speaking multiple languages as a result.

When Felix isn’t fighting a civil war or recovering from it, Felixians often can be found watching or playing football, which is easily the most popular sport in the country. Felix's national team is currently twelfth in the multiverse after reaching the second round twice in the last couple World Cups, which is fairly impressive considering the team debuted not long ago at the 52nd Baptism of Fire. Felixian football is commonly characterized as attacking football styled with speed and accurate long shots being the main strengths although that varies by region as the Swedish speaking region might play more defensive compared to maybe a Spanish speaking region. Under the leadership of Ishikawa Haruka, the Felixian national team is eager to break the second round ceiling that has been stuck on them for the past two World Cups and with the squad's existing talents reaching their primes and younger stars joining the team, Felix is stronger than ever and prepared to seriously challenge the multiverse's very best.

The Celestial Empire of Mizuyuki, more commonly referred to throughout the multiverse as simply Mizuyuki (or more descriptively, the River Flag country), is a liberal, technocratic nation situated in the region of Aeneas. The country - bordered to the southwest by Aurinsula and Chonburi - is ruled by a de facto absolute monarchy under Kirino of Amatsuka, with the assistance of a democratically elected Imperial Diet. The definitive difference between the land of the blessed snow and the other nations of the multiverse is primarily its devotion and commitment to scientific advancement above all; an element of the Mizuyukian psyche that has enabled the empire to rise from the backwater it once was to the regional power status that it now enjoys.

With regards to sports, Mizuyuki is slowly making a name for itself as a footballing nation with aspirations to be part of the crème de la crème in multiversal football. First emerging on the scene five cycles ago, the Mizuyukian national football team has lost no time in making a splash; a respectable mid-table finish in their debut cycle was followed by a concerted push that ultimately resulted in two successive qualifications for the WC66 and WC67 finals. Since then, their fortunes have flagged somewhat, as the two years of plentiful harvests were followed by two years of drought - the only mitigating factor being the team's impressive run to a third place finish in the Cup of Harmony last cycle. However, with the careful cultivation of talent via a dedicated development program, Mizuyuki has firmly established itself as a notable perennial contender for finals qualifications in recent years, and there can be no doubting that they are a team on the rise.

IV. World Cup Format

In terms of structure, World Cup qualifying would remain the same as it has for much of the NSWC's history, with a to-be-determined number of teams playing in groups, with everyone playing each of their groupmates home and away. Our target is to have 20 qualifying groups, which will allow all group winners to advance directly to the World Cup finals without needing to take part in a playoff. Meanwhile, the teams that finish second in their groups would take part in a two-leg playoff (home and away) which would be seeded based on the participants respective results during qualifying (the runner-up with the best performance would face the runner-up with the worst results, the second-best against the second-worst, and so on). The 20 group winners and 10 playoff winners, together with the two World Cup host nations, would then take part in the 32-team World Cup finals.

As it has at every World Cup, the finals will consist of 32 teams drawn into 8 groups of 4 divided between the two host nations. The Equestrian States would host Groups A-D and San José Guayabal would host Groups E-H. The top two teams in each group will advance to the knockout rounds, culminating in the crowning of the world champions at the Equestrian States' famous Royal Equestria Stadium in Canterlot.

The tiebreakers to be used during both qualifying and the finals are, in the following order: points, wins, H2H points, H2H goal difference, overall goal difference, overall goals for, and a single-match playoff at a neutral venue (if necessary to determine advancement in the tournament).

V. Cup of Harmony Format

As it's still too early in the signup process to know even how many nations will be competing in World Cup qualifying, it's impossible to make any concrete decisions on participation numbers for the Cup of Harmony, which will ultimately depend on how many active RPers there are during qualifying and who does and does not qualify for the World Cup finals. However, based on recent editions of the tournament, it would be reasonable to expect the Cup of Harmony to have between 32-40 participants. Regardless of numbers, the Cup of Harmony will use the traditional group stage followed by the knockout rounds.

With regards to tiebreakers, the Cup of Harmony would use the same tiebreakers as the World Cup: points, wins, H2H points, H2H goal difference, overall goal difference, overall goals for, and a single-match playoff at a neutral venue (if necessary to determine advancement in the tournament).

VI. Scorination & RP Bonus

Now, as you may have noticed, this bid deviates from the traditional two-host system that has been used for virtually every World Cup since the NSWC's earliest days and instead proposes the use of a four-host system, as outlined by Vilita several months ago on the WCDT. As per the Vilitan Plan, the four co-hosts would divide scorination duties during World Cup qualifying, with two hosts each scorinating half the groups in the first half of qualifying, and the other two hosts each scorinating half the groups during the second half of qualifying. In this case, the first half of qualifying would be scorinated by the Equestrian States and Felix, while San José Guayabal and Mizuyuki would share scorination duties during the second half.

The designated hosts of the World Cup finals, the Equestrian States and San José Guayabal, will not take part in World Cup qualifying and will qualify automatically for the finals, but Felix and Mizuyuki will compete in the qualifiers. As such, the groups in which Felix and Mizuyuki are drawn will be scorinated by the other two hosts, as will the groups with the two Cup of Harmony hosts' respective puppets (Mendoya and Kazamatsuri). Similarly, the qualifying groups that include the puppets of the Equestrian States and San José Guayabal (the Crystal Empire and Sakhalin, respectively) will be scorinated by Felix and Mizuyuki.

During the World Cup finals, all groups and knockout matches in the Equestrian States will be scorinated by San José Guayabal, with the Equestrian States scorinating those in San José Guayabal, the sole exceptions being the third place match (to be scorinated by junior co-host San José Guayabal) and the World Cup Final itself (to be scorinated by senior co-host Equestrian States). In the unlikely event that one of the two co-hosts reaches the third place match or the Final, the other co-host will take over responsibility for the match's scorination. Similarly, in the Cup of Harmony, should one - or both - of the Cup of Harmony co-hosts fail to qualify for the World Cup finals and have to participate in the tournament, the other co-host will scorinate the matches involving that nation.

As for the scorinator itself, this bid will use xkoranate with the SQIS formula. Without revealing the specific numbers, the RP bonus will be generous and cumulative throughout World Cup qualifying, the Cup of Harmony, and the World Cup proper. There will be a carryover of any RP bonus earned during qualifiers to both the World Cup finals and the Cup of Harmony, which will be equivalent to approximately one MD worth of bonus.

When it comes to evaluating RPs, we respect that everyone has their own unique styles. But whatever style you prefer, we are looking for originality, creativity, and astute information usage in RPs. Don't expect to get much of a bonus if your opponent's posted a roster and you don't make any use of it in your match report RP. And as always: quality takes precedence over quantity.

VII. Experience

All four proposed co-hosts have each successfully hosted at least one of NS Sports' major tournaments and three of the four have previously hosted a WCC competition. If elected as the winning bid, there would be no shortage of experience among the hosts.

Equestrian States can safely be considered one of the NS Sports community's veteran hosts, most notably co-hosting the 67th World Cup and 57th Cup of Harmony alongside Cassadaigua. Other major tournaments the user has hosted to completion include the 25th and 29th World Baseball Classics, 21st World Cup of Hockey, and the 29th Di Bradini Cup (the 32nd edition of which is also currently being hosted by the user). The lesser-known tournaments hosted by the Equestrian States include Market Cup VI, Runner Cup 3, Quidditch World Cup 5, and all four editions of the Equestria Cup. Finally, the user is currently serving his first term as the President of the World Bowl Assembly after previously serving as its Vice-President, and has been responsible for the maintenance of the tournament's rankings since April 2013.

San José Guayabal may not have as impressive a resume as some, but hardly lacks experience hosting major tournaments and co-hosted the 56th Baptism of Fire with Schiavonia. The user has also hosted two of NS Sports' top regional competitions: Copa Rushmori 18 (as Alianza Albos) and AOCAF Cup 45 (as Ratastan). Other tournaments hosted by San José Guayabal include the 5th World Junior Hockey Championships and the September Tennis Championship back in 2013.

Felix also has a respectable hosting resume, having co-hosted Campionato Esportiva X with German American States as well as solo-hosting the 6th U15 World Cup. Furthermore, the user also hosted five editions of the Copa Gaveo and Esquarium Cup I as Gaveo.

Mizuyuki is no stranger to WCC tournaments, with the coming World Cup cycle marking five cycles of consecutive participation in WCC-sanctioned competitions. The user's hosting portfolio includes several notable tournaments, such as the World Hoops Showcase and the International Basketball Championship in partnership with Electrum, a solo hosting of the International Firestorm Cup, and the 60th Cup of Harmony with Kinitaria.

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Postby Blouman Empire » Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:10 pm

Just a quick question and it may be better suited to the WCC thread but does this host bid come in a package? That is to say a vote for one set of hosts means the other will come together? Or could we vote for the CoH hosts but choose another WC bid to host and vice versa. If one is picked but the other not do all four hosts still help out in scorinating?


Also this is not a criticism of any of the four hosts, I know that any event run by them will be a success (based on events I have participated in with them as hosts or events they have hosted which I have observed) but just wondering if it was a package bid or not.
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Postby Nephara » Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:16 pm

I've liked the four-nation host squad plan ever since it was first theorised. I think you'd make a worthy first set of hosts to put it into practice.
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Postby Saintland » Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:37 pm

If it is a package bid, I will either put together a rival bid or vote to reopen bids, as I feel it is not fair to other potential CoH bidders. I fear that this will become the norm and it will become impossible to host the CoH without also co-hosting the World Cup (just look at how co-hosting has become the norm, not the exception, for just about every tournament of late, with solo bids routinely losing to dual bids).

I'd definitely be willing to vote for ES and SJG as WC hosts and for Felix and Mizuyuki as CoH hosts, but I am very reluctant to vote for a 4-host WC bid packaged with a CoH bid, at the expense of anybody else who may have been planning a bid for this cycle's CoH.
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Postby Yttribia » Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:47 pm

Stellar bid, from all four of you. I have absolutely no problems with a packaged bid, bringing in four well experienced hosts. As Nephara said, you are all a fantastic bunch for the first Vilitan Plan to be made a reality.
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Postby Vilita » Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:16 pm

I'll just say that I wish the hosts the best of luck in executing the 'Vilitan Plan' and I think they will do an excellent job. Normally, I would ask for an assurance from SJG that his internet connection issues have been sorted out, but the beauty of the 4 host system is, well there's always someone to step up as needed :D

Looking forward to seeing this plan in action!

And for the record, I see no issue with the Cup of Harmony hosts being 'locked in' before the World Cup starts. Only benefits. The mid-cup 'scramble' for CoH bids to be posted so there is time to vote, turn it around and get invitations out 'in the nick of time' before the CoH starts would all be avoided - all positive things for a smooth execution of the tournament.

Additionally, as in this proposal, the CoH hosts will have been reading and grading RP throughout the World Cup, they will, unequaled by any prior CoH hosts, be uniquely placed to ensure the invitations go to the nations that have truly earned it. I think its a win-win all around, and well worth the opportunity to prove itself out.
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Postby Apox » Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:59 am

This bid has my full support, having just hosted the WC, having an extra two sets of users helping out would only make the process more enjoyable for everyone.

Wasn't there also proposals made for how there could be another vote to re-confirm the CoH hosts? From memory, I believe they were to be elected with the knowledge that people could challenge them, although that could be complete horseradish.
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Postby Polar Islandstates » Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:57 am

Apox wrote:This bid has my full support, having just hosted the WC, having an extra two sets of users helping out would only make the process more enjoyable for everyone.

Wasn't there also proposals made for how there could be another vote to re-confirm the CoH hosts? From memory, I believe they were to be elected with the knowledge that people could challenge them, although that could be complete horseradish.

That rings a bell, I'll double check what was said in the past but as the only precedent for this kind of thing came long before my tenure as president, you may all be relying on the decision myself and Apox come to when it comes to procedure.

For the record, though, I'm fully in agreement with what Vilita says about the advantages of CoH hosts being chosen this early regarding RP judging and, for me the biggest advantage, not having to start asking nervous questions around the halfway point in qualifying like I have done in the last six tournaments.
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Postby San Jose Guayabal » Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:57 pm

Vilita wrote: I would ask for an assurance from SJG that his internet connection issues have been sorted out.


Yes, everything is sorted out, talked with the provider and the connection will be as normal, so no probs there :)
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Postby Milchama » Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:06 pm

Polar Islandstates wrote:
Apox wrote:This bid has my full support, having just hosted the WC, having an extra two sets of users helping out would only make the process more enjoyable for everyone.

Wasn't there also proposals made for how there could be another vote to re-confirm the CoH hosts? From memory, I believe they were to be elected with the knowledge that people could challenge them, although that could be complete horseradish.

That rings a bell, I'll double check what was said in the past but as the only precedent for this kind of thing came long before my tenure as president, you may all be relying on the decision myself and Apox come to when it comes to procedure.

For the record, though, I'm fully in agreement with what Vilita says about the advantages of CoH hosts being chosen this early regarding RP judging and, for me the biggest advantage, not having to start asking nervous questions around the halfway point in qualifying like I have done in the last six tournaments.


Helpful "old person" historical note: Starblaydia and Krytenia hosted the BoF, WC, and CoH for World Cup 50 (because they were crazy). I believe they were independently elected for each one but you could go through the old Jolt archives to double check. Either way, that should be the precedent.
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Postby The Kytler Peninsulae » Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:32 pm

Milchama wrote:Helpful "old person" historical note: Starblaydia and Krytenia hosted the BoF, WC, and CoH for World Cup 50 (because they were crazy). I believe they were independently elected for each one but you could go through the old Jolt archives to double check. Either way, that should be the precedent.


Thought it was 40 - the "XL" bid. The substantive point remains.

I wasn't sure what to make of this particular twist on the multi-user bid, but Vilita makes excellent points in respect of the multiple redundancy of scorinators (especially useful if SJG is vulnerable to connection issues) and the benefits to the CoH invitation process. (Admittedly, that does mean that different RPers will be graded by different people under different criteria, but that's presumably something that's long been happening, and at least this provides an offsetting benefit.)

Also, it'd only be fitting if this historic hosting package style were to make its debut in a landmark-number cycle like 70. ;)
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Postby San Jose Guayabal » Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:40 pm

The Kytler Peninsulae wrote:I wasn't sure what to make of this particular twist on the multi-user bid, but Vilita makes excellent points in respect of the multiple redundancy of scorinators (especially useful if SJG is vulnerable to connection issues)


The problems on my connection were solved quickly some weeks ago, then a little fail was caused due to this but the provider of my service will fix everything later this day, with that I won't have any issue and I'll be ready to host the WCQ and the Finals in case the World Cup Council gives us their vote of confidence to our bid :)

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Postby The Kytler Peninsulae » Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:47 pm

San Jose Guayabal wrote:
The Kytler Peninsulae wrote:I wasn't sure what to make of this particular twist on the multi-user bid, but Vilita makes excellent points in respect of the multiple redundancy of scorinators (especially useful if SJG is vulnerable to connection issues)


The problems on my connection were solved quickly some weeks ago, then a little fail was caused due to this but the provider of my service will fix everything later this day, with that I won't have any issue and I'll be ready to host the WCQ and the Finals in case the World Cup Council gives us their vote of confidence to our bid :)


Very glad to hear you're safe after that! Where I live, a 4.0 earthquake makes the national news, so I can't even imagine what that feels like. Let's hope that if this bid succeeds, it shakes things up in a good way :)
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Postby Equestrian States » Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:52 pm

First, with regards to how this bid will impact host voting, I'll re-post the following answer from PIS on the WCDT for anyone who may have missed it:

NSWC Signups wrote:After discussions with Apox, we've decided to press ahead with what I considered to be a fair application of the rules back when Vilita first proposed the idea of a four way bid. That is to say:

  • The host vote will be as usual, with the added zest that you're considering the CoH-hosts' credentials to host half of WCQs and the CoH as well - where the four-way bid is concerned.
  • Should this vote win, the four hosts are locked in for the WCQs, and the CoH bid is treated as having been tacitly accepted by the community.
  • The only circumstance in which we would then have a vote for the CoH hosting rights is if there is another bid. As the first one has come so early and as part of a four-way bid, I am setting a hard deadline of the last cut-off of the first half of qualifying to get any rival bids in. If there are no rival bids, the CoH bid as described in the four-way is automatically accepted and no further votes will be held.

The two CoH-bidders in the four-way might feel that this puts them in danger of doing work for no return should they later face a second vote and lose, but I don't see this as a problem for many reasons.
a) it means CoH bids can't piggy back a weak bid onto a strong/popular set of WC bidding partners and not face scrutiny for their individual contributions.
b) as Legalese says, it means the hosts are at the mercy of the voters of the WCC. Which is as it should be, and means you need to come up with a strong bid regardless.
c) even if you do end up hosting a quarter of the WCQs and then not hosting the CoH (something I predict to be an unlikely set of circumstances), this will count for you in later discussions of host suitability.

Prez out.



Now, with regards to qualifying numbers, our goal is to have 20 groups, but in the event that we are unable to reach a number of participants which would easily translate to 20 groups, we would opt to use a different format. However, regardless of the final number of teams competing in the WCQs, group winners will be assured an automatic berth in the finals without needing to take part in a playoff. Given the current number of signups, we've put together the following list of possible qualifying formats which we will consider:

154 teams (152 in qualifying + 2 hosts) - 19 groups of 8; 19 group winners qualify, 3 runner-ups qualify, 16 runner-ups to playoffs (8 qualify)
155 teams (153 in qualifying + 2 hosts) - 17 groups of 9 teams; 17 group winners qualify, 9 runner-ups qualify, 8 runner-ups to playoffs (4 qualify)
162 teams (160 in qualifying + 2 hosts) - 20 groups of 8; 20 group winners qualify, 20 runner-ups to playoffs (10 qualify)
164 teams (162 in qualifying + 2 hosts) - 18 groups of 9; 18 group winners qualify, 6 runner-ups qualify, 12 runner-ups to playoffs (6 qualify)
172 teams (170 in qualifying + 2 hosts) - 17 groups of 10; 17 group winners qualify, 9 runner-ups qualify, 8 runner-ups to playoffs (4 qualify)
173 teams (171 in qualifying + 2 hosts) - 19 groups of 9; 19 group winners qualify, 3 runner-ups qualify, 16 runner-ups to playoffs (8 qualify)
182 teams (180 in qualifying + 2 hosts) - 20 groups of 9; 20 group winners qualify, 20 runner-ups to playoffs (10 qualify)
192 teams (190 in qualifying + 2 hosts) - 19 groups of 10; 19 group winners qualify, 3 runner-ups qualify, 16 runner-ups to playoffs (8 qualify)
202 teams (200 in qualifying + 2 hosts) - 20 groups of 10; 20 group winners qualify, 20 runner-ups to playoffs (10 qualify)

If our bid is approved by the host vote, we will reopen signups with a waitlist being used until the qualifying pots are finalized so that we may make adjustments for CTE'd nations and give as many people as possible the chance to participate.
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Postby Northern Sunrise Islands » Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:01 pm

You mean a World Cup where Group Winners qualify straight away without having to deal with play-offs?

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Postby Red Blackiland » Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:59 pm

I like the format,very practic.Good luck to San José Guayabal and Equestrian States.
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Postby Starblaydia » Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:11 pm

The Kytler Peninsulae wrote:
Milchama wrote:Helpful "old person" historical note: Starblaydia and Krytenia hosted the BoF, WC, and CoH for World Cup 50 (because they were crazy). I believe they were independently elected for each one but you could go through the old Jolt archives to double check. Either way, that should be the precedent.


Thought it was 40 - the "XL" bid. The substantive point remains.

Correct. I hosted the BoF and we co-hosted the WC and CoH after three separate tournament hosting votes. The bid announcement was, like this, all made at the same time, though, iirc (because I usually shamelessly self-promote like that).
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