International Domestic Soccer Discussion

[Cosumar]

Do UICA coëfficients degrade? or are they permanent?

The degrade/upgrade each cycle depending on the latest results. The last five cycles are factored equally into the coefficients.

So if you haven’t participated in five cycles, you will drop out of the rankings entirely.

[Omerica]

Do UICA coëfficients degrade? or are they permanent?

UICA coefficients work like UEFA coefficients: the last five seasons count and they're all weighted equally. Any association which hasn't taken part in UICA in the last five seasons drops out of the rankings.

(EDIT: damn ninjas )

[Alta Italia]

I wasn't quite sure whether to post my questions here or in the general questions thread or somewhere else, so if I'm mistaken, I apologize. Also, I'm quite new, and I have a lot of questions (and I'll likely have even more later that I'm not thinking of now), so thank you in advance if you're willing to try to help me out on some of them.

How long does a typical UICA cycle last? How long does a transfer window last? Is the time in which either one of these cycles start or stop governed by some kind of milestone or time marker? Speaking of possible milestones, even though it isn't technically domestic soccer, since I'm already asking a bunch of questions along similar lines: how long does the World Cup cycle last? I've perused the UICA headquarters, and it seems to me that there's no way to improve your clubs' performances in international competition except by already having solid performances in international competition; is that true, or am I missing something? Finally, am I correct in assuming that clubs promoted from the second tier to the first tier in their national pyramid would be eligible to be entered in the Series B Champions Cup the following year despite the fact they would technically be in the first tier & the Series B Champions Cup simultaneously (and, similarly, clubs relegated from the first tier to the second would be ineligible, despite being in the second tier at the time the SBCC takes place)?

Thank you!

[Nephara]

I wasn't quite sure whether to post my questions here or in the general questions thread or somewhere else, so if I'm mistaken, I apologize. Also, I'm quite new, and I have a lot of questions (and I'll likely have even more later that I'm not thinking of now), so thank you in advance if you're willing to try to help me out on some of them.

Don't worry! You're in the right place.

How long does a typical UICA cycle last?

IC: Usually a year, but some users go for half a year or two years.
OOC: Roughly three months.

How long does a transfer window last?

IC: Between seasons. Unlike RL, there usually aren't midseason transfers.
OOC: Roughly a fortnight, from UICA cutoff to its final results. At all times, the free transfer list is open.

Is the time in which either one of these cycles start or stop governed by some kind of milestone or time marker?

The UICA cycle is dependent entirely on Commerce Heights. There's cutoff warnings a week before results are due, giving people plenty of time to submit.

Speaking of possible milestones, even though it isn't technically domestic soccer, since I'm already asking a bunch of questions along similar lines: how long does the World Cup cycle last?

IIRC, every 2-3 months.

I've perused the UICA headquarters, and it seems to me that there's no way to improve your clubs' performances in international competition except by already having solid performances in international competition; is that true, or am I missing something?

As with everything on NSS, RP is key. A league that always submits but doesn't RP will hit a plateau at around 30th, as well as not being particularly rewarding to write or read - but the more effort you put in, the more you'll be rewarded. Randomness and rank are factors as well, of course.

Finally, am I correct in assuming that clubs promoted from the second tier to the first tier in their national pyramid would be eligible to be entered in the Series B Champions Cup the following year despite the fact they would technically be in the first tier & the Series B Champions Cup simultaneously (and, similarly, clubs relegated from the first tier to the second would be ineligible, despite being in the second tier at the time the SBCC takes place)?

Yes.

Thank you!

No problem!

[Alta Italia]

Thanks so much, Nephara!

As I warned, I'm not quite done yet with my questions for y'all. I've one follow-up, along with a few original ones after that.

I've perused the UICA headquarters, and it seems to me that there's no way to improve your clubs' performances in international competition except by already having solid performances in international competition; is that true, or am I missing something?

As with everything on NSS, RP is key. A league that always submits but doesn't RP will hit a plateau at around 30th, as well as not being particularly rewarding to write or read - but the more effort you put in, the more you'll be rewarded. Randomness and rank are factors as well, of course.

So, as I gather, the coefficients are based entirely on previous performance, but there exists (precisely) one way to improve international results outside of relying on randomness to engineer an upset, that being submitting solid RPs when domestic league results are submitted? To clarify an aspect of that question, would I be correct in assuming that it's just domestic league RPs, and not RPs related to the actual UICA competition (as those seem to happen quite rapidly [and, in the cases of some rounds, even simultaneously]), that count?

I've been asking primarily about UICA competitions, but I wonder: How do other competitions, like the Cygnus Cup, determine clubs' quality when they're put into the scorinator? I assume some part of it is RP, but are UICA coefficients or prior Cygnus Cup results also used to some degree? Now for a question completely different: In the transfer window, are there any standards for what makes a reasonable bid or asking price for fees or wages? I assume an unreasonable bid like $1 billion would be rejected by everyone, as a way the community self-regulates, but how might a club avoid making a, say, $5 million bid when the player is really worth $1 million (or vice versa)? And how long does it typically take to scorinate & RP a domestic league &/or cup, especially with a large pyramid? And, to unite the previous two topics, if you successfully bid for foreign players to enter your league, what are the standards on RP-ing those players' results? I'd assume it would be quite arduous to draft a write-up of every foreign player if there are a lot in a league, but I'd also assume the players' home nations would be keenly interested to hear how their players do overseas, especially when making decisions like selecting international rosters.

Thank you in advance for answering any questions that you can!

[Nephara]

So, as I gather, the coefficients are based entirely on previous performance, but there exists (precisely) one way to improve international results outside of relying on randomness to engineer an upset, that being submitting solid RPs when domestic league results are submitted? To clarify an aspect of that question, would I be correct in assuming that it's just domestic league RPs, and not RPs related to the actual UICA competition (as those seem to happen quite rapidly [and, in the cases of some rounds, even simultaneously]), that count?

I don't speak for CH (or for the other hosts of club competitions - there's ones that run for the champions of the 'big three' sporting regions, as well as a Cup Winners' Cup) but I assume that anything involving your clubs is fair game. Most of the RPed leagues do cover UICA results.

I've been asking primarily about UICA competitions, but I wonder: How do other competitions, like the Cygnus Cup, determine clubs' quality when they're put into the scorinator? I assume some part of it is RP, but are UICA coefficients or prior Cygnus Cup results also used to some degree?

Probably can't answer this myself, but isolating it so that someone else better-informed can.

Now for a question completely different: In the transfer window, are there any standards for what makes a reasonable bid or asking price for fees or wages? I assume an unreasonable bid like $1 billion would be rejected by everyone, as a way the community self-regulates, but how might a club avoid making a, say, $5 million bid when the player is really worth $1 million (or vice versa)?

This is a hard one. The NSS market is... significantly more even than the RL market, as are its leagues and national teams. IRL, you get superstars moving for over a hundred million, while weaker leagues trade in the hundreds of thousands at most. It's assumed to be a more even playing field on NSS, and this is reflected in UICA - it's still not common for an unranked side to beat a top side, but it's practically impossible IRL.

The guy selling the player puts a value of what they reckon the player's worth, and will almost always reject offers beneath that. As a new league, a good benchmark might be to try not to go over two million for any individual player, three million for a club overall, selling your best couple of international players at 1-2 million and weaker ones at 0-1. Gradually raise these limits as the league gets better, of course. As the current top national league, Nepharim clubs will pay 40-50m for a genuine world-class player, 10m-25m for someone who'll start for a really big team, while smaller Nepharim teams will fork out 5m for a real star and 2-3m for average starters. Some new leagues are intentionally more cash-rich/prestige-poor (take the CSL or most big West Asian leagues), however, and pump in a lot more money early on, so if that's what you're going for, there's precedent.

And how long does it typically take to scorinate & RP a domestic league &/or cup, especially with a large pyramid?

It's hard to say, but for a smallish preview and match-by-match season it's probably roughly the work of a couple of hours a day for about a week. As time goes on, you'll find out what works for you, cut the parts that aren't rewarding and add stuff that you want to write about.

As just a recommendation, I advise making starting XIs for each top-flight team in your first season, and then filling out their reserves in the second. A preview is definitely worth doing to provide background on each club, and give readers a team to support.

And, to unite the previous two topics, if you successfully bid for foreign players to enter your league, what are the standards on RP-ing those players' results? I'd assume it would be quite arduous to draft a write-up of every foreign player if there are a lot in a league, but I'd also assume the players' home nations would be keenly interested to hear how their players do overseas, especially when making decisions like selecting international rosters.

Thank you in advance for answering any questions that you can!

I personally don't give foreign players any special treatment, apart from not usually signing international (specifically as in capped, not just foreign) players if they aren't going to be regular starters for their clubs. Some leagues (Bonesea, Apox and Vilita, just off the top of my head) do add special sections at the end of the season about how every foreign player did, though. There's precedent either way, so it's up to you.

[Alta Italia]

I delayed my response because I hoped that someone else might swoop in to answer that non-UICA question, but I'm afraid it may have been lost amongst all the other questions that were so kindly answered by Nephara - and, while I'm on that subject, thank you so much for that, Nephara. Unfortunately, those aren't the last of my questions.

I'll repeat my earlier question, since I still don't really have a response yet & I'm asking questions anyways: How do [non-UICA] competitions, like the Cygnus Cup, determine clubs' quality when they're put into the scorinator? I assume some part of it is RP, but are UICA coefficients or prior Cygnus Cup results also used to some degree?

In addition, the big three sporting regions were mentioned, and I've heard that phrase before elsewhere. Are those big three Rushmore, Esportiva, & Atlantian Oceania? And what differentiates those three from each other? What benefit might be derived from being in those regions? Do those regional competitions factor into UICA or other non-UICA (again, I'm thinking of the Cygnus Cup, but I'm not really aware of any non-UICA competitions that aren't restricted to specific regions) competitions?

Finally, a few friends & I got pretty far with creating a pretty NS-style football pyramid a while back, but we weren't actually thinking about NS at the time, so the clubs are based on RL cities - to be fair, we changed the format of the league (pretty dramatically) and our clubs aren't based on any specific clubs IRL; rather, we basically just named clubs after RL cities & coloured those clubs' kits to match with what we thought they might be if such a league were created IRL. It's more a simulation of a sporting alt history than a league designed for an NS nation. What are the standards on that? Would it be better to simulate that outside of NS &, if I were to participate in NS Sports, do so with a different league?

Thank you!

[Nephara]

I'll let someone else field the first question, but;

In addition, the big three sporting regions were mentioned, and I've heard that phrase before elsewhere. Are those big three Rushmore, Esportiva, & Atlantian Oceania?

Yes.

And what differentiates those three from each other?

It's a cultural thing, I guess. In broad strokes; AO is the region of prestige. It's the oldest, I'm pretty positive it's won the most silverware, but it's still accessible to new users - there's no gatekeeping. Rushmore tends to have the most focus on IC politics and verisimilitude, trying to make a big picture, something that can really be interacted with not just as a bunch of NSS users but as a geopolitical entity. That, too, is optional. Esportiva is the newest region, though it's still a few years old. Its reputation is focused on being friendly, accessible and just sort of giving everyone a chance and a leg up into the community.

What benefit might be derived from being in those regions?

The opportunity to place yourself somewhere in the world, the sense of community and the chance to join regional tournaments. I strongly recommend it.

Do those regional competitions factor into UICA or other non-UICA (again, I'm thinking of the Cygnus Cup, but I'm not really aware of any non-UICA competitions that aren't restricted to specific regions) competitions?

There's a national tournament and a club tournament for each of the regions. To my knowledge the rankings for all of them are all based on WCC/UICA rankings, but weighted slightly differently to account for performances in the tournaments themselves over time.

Finally, a few friends & I got pretty far with creating a pretty NS-style football pyramid a while back, but we weren't actually thinking about NS at the time, so the clubs are based on RL cities - to be fair, we changed the format of the league (pretty dramatically) and our clubs aren't based on any specific clubs IRL; rather, we basically just named clubs after RL cities & coloured those clubs' kits to match with what we thought they might be if such a league were created IRL. It's more a simulation of a sporting alt history than a league designed for an NS nation. What are the standards on that? Would it be better to simulate that outside of NS &, if I were to participate in NS Sports, do so with a different league?

I can't speak for CH - though I have a vague memory of a guy being rejected for literally submitting West Bromwich Albion to UICA - but I would strongly recommend basing your league around unique concepts. Sure, there's only a limited number of elements, and you can never really be wholly original - Royal Hispanic teams can be called 'Real', other teams will be FCs or Cities or whatever, and nobody's going to examine your kit colours to make sure they've never been used IRL (because pretty much no matter what it is, it will have been) - but it's jarring to see real-world elements being dropped into an NSS universe that exists entirely apart from RL. So yeah, it's not a hard-and-fast rule, but definitely make a system based around your own nation's geography and culture, and keep inspiration from certain RL sides subtle, if existing at all.

Thank you!

No problem.

[Mriin]

A small point of order Italia might be wondering about: UICA rankings are only determined by UICA competitions. A team's performance in the Cup Winner's Cup, or the regional competitions, does not affect their UICA rankings. Although as mentioned, the regional competitions may keep a side ranking of how well teams do in their tournament and mesh that with their UICA ranking.

A little bit ago I asked about how heavily RP is weighted in the various non-UICA tourney and the answer I got was basically "it varies."

[Valanora]

As the person who runs two out of the three regional club competitions, I can answer how I handle them. I base the ranks off those in the UICA post the last cycle completed, with an addition of a moderate RP bonus. For non UICA associations that enter, I generally build up their ranking over multiple cycles if they continue to submit and weight that RP higher, to provide a more even playing field for them despite not having a rank in the UICA. I use the club coefficients for pots only, while using the association coefficient for the scorination process, as it is done in the UICA.

[Kita-Hinode]

Just to check, can we still resend our last cycle's results in case we can't properly produce a season?

My notebook's incident with a glass of mate kind of maimed it off for real and while another one is coming soon enough, you never know.

[Valladares]

I'll repeat my earlier question, since I still don't really have a response yet & I'm asking questions anyways: How do [non-UICA] competitions, like the Cygnus Cup, determine clubs' quality when they're put into the scorinator? I assume some part of it is RP, but are UICA coefficients or prior Cygnus Cup results also used to some degree?

The ranks used for Cygnus Cup scorination are based off the UICA coëfficients at the end of each cycle (both association and club ones) plus some RP bonus. Past performance in the competition is also considered in the calculation given that UICA coëfficients only cover performance in the Champions' Cup and Globe Cup (not the SBCC or any non-UICA competition).

Do those regional competitions factor into UICA or other non-UICA (again, I'm thinking of the Cygnus Cup, but I'm not really aware of any non-UICA competitions that aren't restricted to specific regions) competitions?

The answer to this question, speaking only for the Cygnus Cup, is: no.

Just to check, can we still resend our last cycle's results in case we can't properly produce a season?

My notebook's incident with a glass of mate kind of maimed it off for real and while another one is coming soon enough, you never know.

Yes.

[Vilitan Cove]

A friendly reminder as this is the first full cycle of this tournaments existence, the application submission process for the VCI is as follows (Cited from viewtopic.php?p=33108475#p33108475 )

The rules for application to the VCI, which should be adhered to by any association which is inviting one of their clubs to apply for a slot in the tournament, are as follows:

Number of Teams Allowed to Apply: ( ONE )

• Single-Association leagues may have one applicant team
• Multi-Association leagues may have no more than three applicant teams with no more than one applicant from a single association

Criteria for Invitation:

• In order to be invited, an applicant team must not have qualified for any Major Senior International competition (CC, GC, SBCC, CWC) during that cycle
• An association may permit an applicant team using any criteria it chooses so long as the qualified applicant is selected based on sporting merit.
  
  • Preference for Invitations may go to applicants who have been selected via a Fair Play table
  • Other applicant criteria may include, but are not limited to: Best Defensive Record, Most Team Goals Scored, Most Improved Team

Previous Edition Finalists:

• The reigning Champion Team does not need to apply for an invitation and will receive an invitation in addition to and exempt from other entrants and criteria
• If deemed advantageous to the competition, the reigning Runner-Up, if not already invited, may also be extended an invitation under the same exemption

In order to apply for consideration to be Invited to the Second Vilitan Cove Invitational, interested associations should follow the following guidelines.

Interested applicants may include their information in their standard League Newswire post so long as the appropriate format is adhered to, particularly the inclusion of the keytext "VCIAPP:" as bolded below. Interested applicants may also telegram to Vilitan Cove prior to the 70th UICA Cycle Cutoff.

Sample Applications:

Sample Application:

VCIAPP: Samplestan FC (TRG)

Sample Application:

VCIAPP: Samplestan FC (TRG)
Selection Via: Fair Play Table

Sample Application:

VCIAPP: Samplestan FC
Association: Samplestan (TRG)
Selection Via: Fair Play Table

[Nephara]

With the cutoff announced, the 21st Transfer Window is now open in a preliminary stage! With a lot of leagues in flux, opening up or just generally aiming to make a splash, I'd like to see this be the biggest and best window yet.

In this spirit, I'd like to address what recent players might be wondering; what is the transfer window? The transfer system is how players move from one club to another, and this transfer spreadsheet is how transfers across the multiverse are conducted. North Americans might be more familiar with the term 'trades'. In football, player-for-player exchanges are rare (though not unknown) and players are generally bought for money.

Where to start? Put players you would like to see sold in the Official UICA Transfer List tab. Put players who are going to be released by their clubs in the Free Transfers tab. You will have to manually approve transfers for people in the Transfer List - Free Transfers are just bought on a first-come, first-served basis.

So someone bid on my player. What now? Look at the bid in the Bids tab. You'll notice there's two different columns - Club and Player accepting the bid. Generally speaking, the Club only cares about the transfer fee and if it meets its valuation. It doesn't matter how good the buying club is - the money's the same to the selling club. The player doesn't care about the money that the selling club gets, they only care about if the selling club is good, and if they meet their expectations. Selling clubs want more money, sold players are looking for clubs with more prestige.

How do I determine what leagues are good? The UICA league rankings determine objective measures of strength. You will also want to consider the strength of the club in its given league - the Nepharim Premiership is a stronger league than the Brenecian A-League, but your player may well prefer to go to regular A-League winners Kingsgrove than Premiership strugglers Morningstar. Most players also weigh RP quality of a given league into consideration, though only well-RPed leagues will get to the high ranks anyway.

Can I put just anyone up? A good rule of thumb is to write a description for every player in the far right of the spreadsheet. If the player isn't relevant enough for you to want to write a description for them, they aren't worth putting on the sheet. A placeholder description will do for now, but definitely have a real description up by the time the window actually starts in roughly a week and a half.

How can I buy players? It's the same in reverse. What players do you want to see in your leagues? If they're on the Transfer List, put a Bid for them in the Bids tab. At minimum, this will probably be their cited Valuation. If the club and the player both agree by putting a Y in the relevant tab, then it's a done deal! The player is yours.

What about players who aren't on the Transfer List? You can bid for them, too! The worst that can happen is that the other person says no.

What about Free Transfers? Just put your club and trigramme in the red New Club columns. It's automatically a done deal.

How should I value my players? And how much can I reasonably bid? Fortunately, the NSS economy is far less stratified than the real-world football economy. Instead of big players changing hands for hundreds of Euro, while most leagues outside Europe will never see a transfer of even one million, there's more parity across UICA and this is reflected in more even results. If it's your first season, your top-half teams might have a full million to spend on a transfer fee, with most of the purchased foreigners being free transfers. Your best player, if they're in the prime of their career (roughly 25-29, but youth adds value, so 24-25 is probably peak value for a player), might fetch one or two million. Other starters on your national team might go for about a million, and ambitious guys in your league hoping to break into your national team will probably fetch like half a million.

Is that a hard and fast rule? No, and there are exceptions. Maybe your league is like the real-life Chinese Super League, a low-prestige league with a lot of money. It's entirely fair to throw a lot of cash around without much prestige, just as long as you're aware of that status. More generally, nobody is going to police you for Doing Things Wrong.

What should my expectations be like for my first season? Modest. Out of a few bids for less prominent players, often in their early- to mid-30s, a few will probably be accepted - and, of course, look through Free Transfers for players who appeal to you. Be realistic, of course - a guy who is like 31 and is still an active international for a strong team is probably not going to join your lower leagues just because he's in the Free Transfers tab - but beyond those obvious cases, you don't need to second-guess yourself.

If I have a free agent player, but I care about their destination, can I put them on the Transfer List anyway? Yes. Any bid for them will be for 0 - there's no club with their contract to take the money - and you are free to accept whatever destination you'd like.

Can I start yet? So far, the window is only open in a preliminary stage. People can put their players and managers up, write rumours, and start declaring interest in players, but the actual Sales and Bids tabs, and the New Club columns of the Free Transfers sheet, are locked for the time being.

Have other questions, or just want to hang out and chat? Then feel free to join the #nstransfers channel on Esper.net IRC! (It might not be that active before the window starts itself, so don't be disheartened if it's inactive when you join.)

[Audioslavia]

Current pre-window squad lists for the ten teams that will contest The National League next season.

Check out our transfer listed players in the Transfer Window 21 sheet.

Check out our football newswire for a quick overview of Audioslavian top flight football.

1830 Cathair
(Cathair, Central)
01. Fôrté Wínrôuge (32, AM C, AUD)
2. Edrigu Verhagen (29, D RC, AUD)
3. Romain Capelle (30, D L, VLD)
4. Mario Valentini (18, M C, AUD)
5. Ryan Gordon (29, D C, AUD)
6. Gael Marquez (36, D C, AUD)
7. Hazel van Robben (30, M/F RLC, QUE)
8. Faeron Soldarian (647, DM C, VAL)
9. Pristina Shine (27, F C, EQS)
10. Espy va Drake (768, M/F RLC, VAL)
11. Romelio Ceballos (32, F C, PAS)
12. Alpha Gandhi (30, F C, APX)
13. Francis McPherson (35, G , AUD)
14. Sebastiaan Beethoven (20, M LC, AUD)
15. Torquil Robie (25, DM/M C, AUD)
16. John Lomax (16, D RC, AUD)
1+8. Zlatan Natividad (25, F C, AUD)
19. Eri Raaijmakers (24, F C, AUD)
20. Ignacio Borjon (18, M RC, AUD)
21. Connor McNeil (21, D L, AUD)
22. Charlie Gordon (18, D LC, AUD)
23. Lachlan McKenna (23, G , AUD)
24. Diego Monroy (17, D LC, AUD)
25. Blair Henderson (22, F C, AUD)
26. Ainsley Gibson (26, D L, AFT)
99. Rodolfo Zelaya (37, F RLC, SJG)
Mng. Wilfred Lidgley (43, M RC, APX)

AC Izotz Zubia
(Izotzazubia , Herradura)
1. Abraham Terrazas (35, G , SJG)
2. Txordin Uzain (29, D R, AUD)
3. Javi Esqueda (25, D RL, AUD)
4. Sterling Rose (35, DM C, EUR)
5. Ilatxi Altzibararechuluago (23, D C, AUD)
6. Robert Smith (29, D C, AUD)
7. Tanya Bottlegreen (36, M RL, NPH)
8. Tar Hunor (26, M C, PAS)
9. Ingþór Auðbjörnsson (26, F C, PAS)
10. Fabio Mancini (33, M C, OSR)
11. Claudio Romano (22, F C, PAS)
13. Ángel Clavel (17, G , AUD)
14. Laborious Hawk (908, AM C, VAL)
15. Asentzio Martikorena (23, D LC, AUD)
16. Inaki Villanueva (18, D RL, AUD)
17. Arjen Jensen (17, M/F C, AUD)
19. Inigo Bengoechea (21, F C, AUD)
22. Shack Placid (26, M C, AUD)
23. Thornley Stray (23, D L, AUD)
24. Esteban Bentzen (30, M/F RL, AUD)
27. Manolo Hernandez Jr. (23, M R, AUD)
28. Laurentzi Urionaguena (18, M RC, AUD)
Mng. Patrick Courtois (39, D C, VLD)

Artiglieria
(Bolzana, Padia)
1. Gioele Brando (21, G , AUD)
2. Alessio Tornetta (20, D RL, AUD)
3. Leonardo Di Bari (21, D L, AUD)
4. Kelly Caldarone (25, DM C, AUD)
5. Lee Catrambone (31, D/M RL, AUD)
6. Michele Merlini (23, D C, AUD)
7. Fedyenka Rudnitsky (23, M R, AUD)
8. Bruno Guridi (24, M/F RL, AUD)
10. Odis Panico (25, F C, AUD)
11. Paolo Castellucci (19, AM LC, AUD)
12. Haywood Toscano (31, F C, AUD)
13. Homer Bruzzese (17, G , AUD)
14. Francesco Fazio (23, M C, AUD)
15. Maximiliano Villavicencio (20, M/F C, AUD)
16. Angelo Buffone (23, D C, AUD)
17. Eduardo De Valle (18, M LC, AUD)
18. Nicolò Casassa (23, DM C, AUD)
19. Giacomo Tripodi (21, M LC, AUD)
21. Adolfo De Nicola (24, F C, AUD)
22. Giulio Campus (17, M RL, AUD)
23. Gwenhael Salaun (23, M C, AUD)
24. Salvatore Cartelli (17, D R, AUD)
28. Giorgio Cavaliere (17, F C, AUD)
29. Filippo Bracco (16, F C, AUD)
31. Francesco Azzaro (23, F C, AUD)
34. Edoardo Scicchitano (16, M LC, AUD)
Mng. Orson Faulkner (40, D RC, BRE)

Burdoc Ridge
(Ceilerden, Central)
1. Liam McAdams (20, G , AUD)
2. Leif Davidson (20, D R, AUD)
3. Nathan Lang (33, D LC, AUD)
4. Dennis Weir (32, DM C, AUD)
5. Emmanuel Awuah (28, D C, SEM)
6. Kestryl Morejon (28, D C, AUD)
7. Jean Buchanan-McIntyre (25, M R, AUD)
8. Raadi Bowden (22, AM/F C, EFL)
9. Ira Lesley (32, F C, AUD)
10. Del Curtis (31, F C, AUD)
11. Marc Buchanan (28, M L, AUD)
12. William Carr (26, DM C, AUD)
14. Israel Murga (26, AM RC, AUD)
15. Carghan Rolan (32, D LC, AUD)
16. Osvald Johnsen (24, M R, AUD)
17. Archie Hofstede (30, D RC, AUD)
18. Aidan Stuart (22, D C, AUD)
19. Brodie Maloney (21, AM R, AUD)
20. Adam Logan (25, AM L, AUD)
21. Erik Bird (31, M L, AUD)
22. Kieran Nielsen (22, D L, AUD)
23. Carghan Vale (24, F C, AUD)
24. Jude Tomas (28, M/F RL, AUD)
25. Chick McKenzie (17, F C, AUD)
29. Hannes Van den Hoek (18, F C, AUD)
30. Erramun De Pauw (39, G , AUD)
Mng. Coalan Bray (52, F C, AUD)

Cazadores Cathair
(Cathair, Central)[/align]
1. Hector Calixto (28, G , AUD)
2. Adalberto Zufiaurre (31, D/M R, AUD)
3. Matthew Ingold (29, D L, SCH)
4. Yancy Andersen (25, M C, AUD)
5. Verghan Seghers-Verduzco (25, D C, AUD)
6. Vergan Peña (27, D C, AUD)
7. Andrea Arguelles (29, M RC, AUD)
8. Julio Sokolov (29, F C, AUD)
9. Desya Kuznetsov (19, F C, AUD)
10. Rafael Barrantes (27, F C, AUD)
11. Nestor Martinez (29, AM/F C, SJG)
12. Baran Kuznetsov (23, D RC, AUD)
15. Imanol Corallo (27, M RC, AUD)
16. Bryton Menheniot (20, DM C, APX)
17. Francisco Elizalde (26, M LC, AUD)
18. Sergio Belen (21, D R, AUD)
20. Randal Zepeda (24, M C, AUD)
21. Ivan Pangallo (25, AM L, AUD)
22. Guifré Mosquera (21, M CR, AUD)
23. Ashley Apaolaza (24, AM L, AUD)
24. Florencio Lozada (28, M RC, AUD)
25. Dane Pridgeon (16, M C, COS)
26. Xabier Irungarai (21, G , AUD)
Mng. Rook Cathar (43, F RLC, NPH)

KT Itzalovalle
(Ferramendiak, Herradura)
1. Jamison Pounds (29, G , AUD)
2. Sebastiano Aretxaga (26, D RC, AUD)
3. Francesc Perona (21, D RL, AUD)
4. Manolo Cesar Chavez (19, D C, AUD)
5. Kevin Wazockry (36, D C, APX)
6. Diego Echavarria (30, D/M LC, AUD)
7. Serge Vandervelde (32, M/F R, AUD)
8. Balasi Barrenechea (22, AM RL, AUD)
9. Cody Santos (28, F C, AUD)
10. Iker Ariztondo (25, F C, AUD)
11. Alejandro Aretxaga (29, M LC, AUD)
12. Edmundo Bischop (32, D RC, AUD)
13. Oouoo Cathair (27, M/F RC, AUD)
14. Miles Mirandona (29, F C, AUD)
16. Herschel Capurro-Carlos (24, M RL, AUD)
17. Eddie Gastelu (29, DM C, AUD)
18. Imanol Uranga (22, M C, AUD)
19. Aarón Pizana (19, F C, AUD)
20. Edorta Barberi (32, F C, AUD)
21. Billiam Heijmans (22, DM C, AUD)
22. Javier Gojenola (20, D C, AUD)
27. Jim Pedroso-Berrioategortua (22, M C, AUD)
39. Ager Alaba (39, M C, ASG)
Mng. Sean Patterick (48, G , AUD)

KT Moreazerua
(Moreazerua, Herradura)
01.Anderson Sandro (36, F RLC, KYP)
2. Agustín Valenzuela (21, D R, AUD)
3. Alex Moralez (25, D LC, AUD)
4. Bennik Hreidarsson (28, DM C, SEM)
6. Dieter Konoval (26, D C, NPH)
7. Kelvin Lisco (24, D/M R, SAR)
8. Robbie Guerricaechevarria (32, AM RC, AUD)
9. Renzo Padrione (33, F C, AUD)
10. Joan Nonhagatte (26, M C, FFD)
11. Rodger Mariezkurrena (29, M L, AUD)
12. Santiago Dorantes (25, G , AUD)
13. Timothy Landzaat (29, D RC, AUD)
14. Huele (35, AM C, SAM)
15. Nerman (27, M/F L, IRN)
16. Arturo Solagurenbeazkoa (24, D/M RL, AUD)
17. Nestor Lagorio (33, M C, AUD)
19. Inaki Etxabeguren (30, AM/F CL, AUD)
19. Imanol Andueza (23, F C, AUD)
20. Forest Azarola (25, F C, AUD)
22. Deshawn Ierardi (27, D RC, AUD)
24. Valery Dmitriev (22, D C, AUD)
Mng. Alexander Kirk (64, , AUD)

Oljestaden IF
(Oljestaden, Hyland)
1. Zebjan Istanjovich (35, G , SIC)
2. Morten Pshenichny (32, D R, PIS)
3. Hershel Nesbitt (30, D LC, AUD)
4. Tomas Kristofics (36, DM C, PIS)
5. Tomp McCloud (33, D L, COS)
6. Lawrence Wolters (28, D C, AUD)
7. Navarro lo Squadro (29, M R, FFD)
8. Tofer Kahlor (21, AM C, COS)
9. Vraimond Tielemans (32, F C, AUD)
10. Funanya Nwapa (33, M C, COS)
11. Jack Churchfather (25, AM L, NPH)
12. Dylan Yansway (27, M RL, AUD)
13. Kletus Tosset (19, F C, COS)
15. Ion De Bisschop (27, F C, AUD)
16. Mathew Zwaan (28, M R, AUD)
17. Ernest De Keyser (27, D/M RC, AUD)
18. Clement Snijders (26, DM C, AUD)
19. Tanner Harguindeguy (30, F C, AUD)
20. Gale Van Hoorn (22, F C, AUD)
21. Hans Pectol (28, AM C, AUD)
22. Christopher Peña (30, D R, AUD)
23. Granville Henrichsen (30, D RC, AUD)
24. Adriaan Martens (23, D/M L, AUD)
25. Bohdan Melnikoff (24, F C, AUD)
26. Caleb di Weit (20, F C, AUD)
27. Kristopher Jansen (25, F C, AUD)
29. Nickolas Horseshoes (26, F C, AUD)
30. Marijn Poelmans (24, D RL, AUD)
Mng. Ivan Haarstad (46, mng , PIS)

Shamrock Cathair
(Cathair, Central)
1. Kiki Nuremberg (41, G , FEL)
2. Lachlan Faulkner (18, M RL, AUD)
3. Cameron Burns (30, D RLC, AUD)
4. Lindsay Harrow (27, D/M LC, AUD)
5. Lewis Vaughan (25, D C, LTN)
6. Dewey Carmichael (25, D C, AUD)
7. Bryce Leadbetter (34, F C, NPH)
8. William Blake (25, M C, LTN)
9. Jerome Aitken (29, F C, AUD)
10. Pascal O'James (23, F C, AUD)
11. Bull De Roo (30, M C, AUD)
12. Mirko Vangelis (33, M L, NPH)
13. Kyle Maxfield (18, D RC, AUD)
16. Bo Gifford (28, D C, AUD)
17. Brock Cucci (28, F C, AUD)
18. Gregory Clark (33, F C, AUD)
20. Yohan Millar (21, M/F R, EFL)
21. Leonard Patterson (25, G , AUD)
23. Graham Matthiesen (28, M L, AUD)
24. Rusty McPherson (28, G , AUD)
25. John Snodgrass (20, D C, AUD)
26. Louis Snodgrass (20, D C, AUD)
28. Ted Cal (24, DM C, AUD)
29. Conrad Edmond (21, F C, AUD)
30. Kian Wood (19, D C, AUD)
Mng. Rohan Cammers (42, M C, APX)

Tout-Puissant Hasiera
(Hasiera, Bas de la Sierra)
1. Louelle Ronquille (27, G , AUD)
2. Jeremiah Bendix (33, D RL, AUD)
3. Shane Stoppelbei (30, D L, YTT)
4. Vincente Dupont (25, DM C, AUD)
5. Emmanuel Fontan (23, D C, AUD)
6. Jean-Michel Boiteux (20, D CR, AUD)
8. Guy Rana (33, AM C, AUD)
9. Iaaki Lacouague (25, F C, AUD)
10. Louis O'Brien (28, F C, OSR)
11. Jaume Picot (23, M LC, AUD)
12. Marcus Herrier (25, F C, AUD)
13. Jildas Le Hénaff (17, D L, AUD)
14. Eric Guardsman (34, F C, AUD)
15. Marouane Gilberg (32, D L, AUD)
16. Roman Brinkman (27, AM L, AUD)
17. Neal Denis (27, AM RL, AUD)
18. Zakhar Sliva (19, M C, AUD)
19. Gioele Angelino (18, D LC, AUD)
20. Marcus Sforza (28, AM C, AUD)
21. Charles Beck (19, D/M LC, AUD)
22. Arnau Basso (22, G , AUD)
23. Clarence Robaina (18, D L, AUD)
24. Dídac Vivas (19, D RC, AUD)
25. Javier Duarte (19, D RL, AUD)
28. Miquel Regal (24, M RL, AUD)
Mng. Ari Mendea (58, M , AUD)

[Buyan]

Apologies for not getting a proper series up for the deadline. With that knowledge in mind, I'll refrain from transferring internationally this season and will think out a more low-word-count concept for the upcoming edition. If you'ld prefer your player not to be part of that (or really insist of having one of yours over), do contact me through TG.

[Eura]

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=98388&p=32924601#p32924601

Euraleague player stats and awards for my previous season now available above. New season will go up tonight.

[Kita-Hinode]

Last season saw Project Olimpo win the All-Hinodejin Youth League. Once again, the ever-so-diligent scouts release a new version of last season's list of players with an update on them.

POS.	NAME			HOMETOWN			AGE	G	SCOUTING NOTES
GK	Michael Napier		Port James, Schottia		20	M	+ Strong + Tall
GK	Tressa Crawford		Skiveness, Bonesea		16	F	* Unpredictable - Brawler
GK	Calff Fisher		Spittalsea, Bonesea		17	M	+ Leadership
SW	Negus Barn		Gallowsea, Bonesea		15	M	+ Leadership + Versatile (GK) - Flamboyant
RB	Tonma Nagoyu		Mitsunomori, Kita-Hinode	16	M	+ Good at Improvisation	
RB	Masanori Tsuniboi	Uranai, Kita-Hinode		16	M	* Kitsune + Gentleman + Witty
CB	Slim Kennedy		Fennby, Bonesea			16	M	+ Reliable + Award Winner (Season XI 2137) - Arrogant - Brawler
CB	Bitto Kazuki		Tsuroga-Maniya, Kita-Hinode	16	M	+ Physically Strong - Small, Unimposing
CB	Hasai Makirya		Sakiyama, Kita-Hinode		16	M	- Boring
CB	Sorumo Namyuu		Muterya-Kiryeji, Kita-Hinode	16	F	* Gerudo + Rowdy + Strong
CB	Kyou Tsushika		Yoshii, Kita-Hinode		16	F	* Kitsune + Witty + Fast
CB	Ben Jones		[unknown city], Audioslavia	17	M	[NEEDS MORE SCOUTING]
LB	Adam Keill		Callenross, Schottia		21	M	+ Promising + Award Winner (Season XI 2137) + Fast Sold to Royal Queenstown (NGL)
LB	Vyata Nitini		Worthington, Yesopalitha	16	M	* Elf + Somewhat Promising
LB	Naudin Blondeau		Deprí Sanar, Chromatika		16	M	+ Somewhat Promising
LB	Arthur Jézéquel		[unknown city], Audioslavia	16	M	[NEEDS MORE SCOUTING]
DM	Shah Treguesson		Tocklehove, Bonesea		17	M	+ Physically Strong - Arrogant - Brawler
DM	Afuki Merutsu		Mushikate, Kita-Hinode		16	F	* Gerudo + Contact Player
RM	Amity Sanderling	Washaway, Bonesea		16	F	+ Ambidextre * Showboater - Temperamental - Brawler
RM	Naia Anhili		Xavier, Yesopalitha		16	F	* Elf + Somewhat Promising
RM	Juetta Bélanger		Omnio, Chromatika		16	F	+ Somewhat Promising
RM	Gilbert Cortot		Pùr, Chromatika			16	M	+ Promising + Versatile (RB, CM, RW)
CM	Euphenia Croft-Blue	Gallowsea, Bonesea		17	F	+ Ambidextre + Versatile (OM)
CM	Ava Rose Donaldson	Handon, Schottia		19	F	* Legacy (Daughter) + Award Winner (Silver Boot 2137, Season XI 2137) + Inspirational + Playmaker Sold to Northampton (AVN)
CM	Minna Furuzaka		Nibi, Kita-Hinode		16	F	+ Fast
CM	Lu Kun			Bao, Kita-Hinode		16	F	+ Flair
CM	Qian An			Tentai, Kita-Hinode		16	F	+ Positioning		
LM	Fifty Calloose		Gallowsea, Bonesea		17	M	+ Ambidextre + Resilient - Lazy - Coward
LM	Ugaji Ketana		Kamandu, Kita-Hinode		16	F	+ Flair
OM	Sakura Tsuzumi		Jojima, Kita-Hinode		16	F	* Kitsune + Witty + Fast
OM	Tereza Makamari		Hanshima, Kita-Hinode		16	F	+ Flair + Strong Shot
RW	Akamaru Horui		Minori, Kita-Hinode		16	M	* Poundie + Good Boy
CF	Jin Horui		Minori, Kita-Hinode		16	M	* Poundie - Bad Boy
CF	Niiramai Yanupa'ane	Kamandu, Kita-Hinode		16	M	+ Athletic
CF	Esteve			[unknown city], Audioslavia	16	M	[NEEDS MORE SCOUTING]
LW	Gitonga Kahara		Herzegovina City, Banija	18	M	+ Promising + Award Winner (Golden Boot 2137, Season XI 2137) + Prolific Sold to Polaris (CEN)
LW	Godelina Auguste	Hanai, Chromatika		16	F	+ Somewhat Promising
LW	M'aka Antoine		Freedom's Altar, Yesopalitha	16	F	+ Promising
ST	Athena Inagusame	Muterya-Kiryeji, Kita-Hinode	16	F	+ Promising
ST	Tarou Nagasaki		Hezukara, Kita-Hinode		16	M	+ Tactically Smart
ST	Oudart Vaugrenard	Eyrods, Chromatika		16	M	+ Somewhat Promising
ST	Trin Toarinar		New Oxford, Ceni		16	M	[NEEDS MORE SCOUTING]

PROJECT OLIMPO DARMEN

POS.	NAME			HOMETOWN			AGE	G	SCOUTING NOTES
GK      Lucio Carrera           Scott City, Darmen              19      M       + Good Hands
GK      Sergio Salas            Buckingham, Darmen              17      M       + Flexible
LB      Domenico Colucci        Newbury, Darmen                 18      M       - Slow + Leader
LB   	Tommaso Riva            Scott City, Darmen              18      M       + Good Tackler
CB  	Leopoldo Dominguez      Buckingham, Darmen              18      M       + Good Vision
CB   	Isaac Farrell           Scott City, Darmen              18      M       - Argumentative
RB   	Curtis Tremblay         Super-Mare, Darmen              17      M       + Good Crossing
RB   	Fidel Barajas           Newbury, Darmen                 18      M       - Fouls ALOT!
LM   	Gerardo Cabrera         Scott City, Darmen              17      M       + Great Passing
LM   	Harrison Marshall       Maidenhead, Darmen              19      M       + Good Free-kicks
LCM  	Quique Valdez           Liverpool, Darmen               16      M       + Leader
LCM  	Augusto Pineda          Scott City, Darmen              17      M       + Poacher
CM   	Marcus Greene           Scott City, Darmen              19      M       - Bad Positioning
RCM  	Oscar Morrison          Liverpool, Darmen               18      M       - Wandering Mind
RCM  	Graciano Caban          Scott City, Darmen              19      M       + Good at Football - Bad at Life
RM   	Graciano Osorio         Buckingham, Darmen              19      M       + Good Weak Foot
RM   	Fabio Guiliani          Scott City, Darmen              19      M       - Bad Crossing
LW   	Noel Ford               Scott City, Darmen              18      M       + Football Intelligent
LW   	Gareth Watson           Newbury, Darmen                 18      M       + Good Crossing
RW      Primo Beltran           Scott City, Darmen              17      M       + Good Shooter
RW   	Victor Quintero         Super-Mare, Darmen              17      M       + Applies Pressure in Opposing Half
RW      Alex Watts              Scott City, Darmen              16      M       - Bad Passing
CF   	Crispino Recchio        Kingsville, Darmen              19      M       + Power Shooter
CF   	Benedict Galli          Scott City, Darmen              18      M       - Slow
CF   	Renato Barone           Buckingham, Darmen              17      M       + Fighter

Project Olimpo is looking towards expansion this cycle. Interested parties are welcome to telegram Kita-Hinode if interested. Additionally, nations wishing to send players either to Project Olimpo or to other teams at the All-Hinodejin Youth League are welcomed to so as well, again telegramming to Kita-Hinode with their position, age and specific details such as how they age and if there's any specific age before 21 that you wish them to return to your place or anything of the like.

[Eura]

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=98388&p=32924601#p32924601

Euraleague player stats and awards for my previous season now available above. New season will go up tonight.

...and now the Season 35 stats for the UICA deadline just gone are up too: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3108&p=33386207#p33386207

Please note the Gold League rosters - if you're interested in anyone on there, make a bid for them on the current transfer window sheet, only remember that all players will be a year older on the sheet.

[Dunnes]

On the transfer window sheet, if a player and club are from the same country, and the club approves the trade, does that mean the player is sold?

[Buyan]

On the transfer window sheet, if a player and club are from the same country, and the club approves the trade, does that mean the player is sold?

From a point of experience - I would say it's not yet. Often it is used as an extra RP angle, claiming by example...

"Whilst the club agrees on a transfer to either FC, City or Town - the player is still hesitant to make his definitive choice."

[Eastfield Lodge]

On the transfer window sheet, if a player and club are from the same country, and the club approves the trade, does that mean the player is sold?

Basically, both boxes have to be marked yes, before you can copy it across.

[Dunnes]

On the transfer window sheet, if a player and club are from the same country, and the club approves the trade, does that mean the player is sold?

Basically, both boxes have to be marked yes, before you can copy it across.

Ok thanks!

[Cosumar]

Hey everybody! Friendly reminder that, since the UICA results have concluded, the transfer window will be closing imminently. Now is the time to hop on the sheet and make any last-minute decisions on bids.

[Drawkland]

Hey all, just a quick housekeeping note regarding a couple transfers.

The user behind Sulsuland (Mushcap is his main) has given me permission to officially administer the dealings of Sulsu on the transfer sheet. I realize that the bids for Sulsus on the sheet were made in jest, but Sulsu in itself is in jest so I've officialized the transfers.

You may ask, wait a minute, how can you approve multiple bids for one player? Well the fact is that there are millions of Sulsus milling about in Sulsuland, merely clones of the True Sulsu with more diluted traits and abilities. These are the Sulsus who have made up the Sulsuland national team for the last few cycles. The real Sulsu has never actually played in any World Cup matches, or else the opponent would likely lose 11-0, because the real Sulsu is probably god himself.

Anyhow, these "normal" Sulsus act as you'd expect a normal Sulsu to act: their only goal is to obtain fish. Playing soccer or really doing anything other than a straight pursuit of fish is merely an accidental event likely caused by a very scenic route to obtain fish. If you've been approved for a Sulsu transfer, you have one of these normal Sulsus in your possession.

Don't let them get hungry.