Possibility of a NS Hunger Games

[Holy Trek]

I watched Hunger Games (second time viewing it) on DVD, and I've given some thought to doing a similar competition on NS. The main questions I have are:
1)Where would I locate the thread? International Incidents or NS Sports (right here)?
2)What tech level would be recommended for this competition?
3)Who would be interested in participating?

Once I have question one answered, the other two questions should answer themselves.


So, thoughts?

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IC Thread: 1st Annual NationStates Hunger Games Thread now up and running.

[Falcania]

Oh I quite like this proposal. Because it is a sport. Scorinating it would be a bit of a hassle but I'm sure we could hash something together. Tech level... is probably best left by the wayside at that point. I'd give it a go.

[Holy Trek]

Oh I quite like this proposal. Because it is a sport. Scorinating it would be a bit of a hassle but I'm sure we could hash something together. Tech level... is probably best left by the wayside at that point. I'd give it a go.

Well...we'd have to do a similar setup to the movie where each region would send one male and one female. Race (both terrestrial and extraterrestrial), age, and language would not matter.

[The Babbage Islands]

I have neither read the book nor viewed the movie; the story doesn't sound like my cup of tea. But there might be interest in this and I'm up for a scorination challenge if needed. If one of you can describe the competition here I can either put a scorinator together or recommend an existing scorinator to adapt.

[Andossa Se Mitrin Vega]

Well...we'd have to do a similar setup to the movie where each region would send one male and one female. Race (both terrestrial and extraterrestrial), age, and language would not matter.

If this goes, allow each nation (not region) to send one male and one female. just my opinion.

[Riysa]

So...
Does each nation send one male and one female condemned criminal on death row, or do we just not really kill each other, wargame-style?

[Wabacha]

I do like this idea, although you may want to keep it iron age technology for now. Maybe when a bunch of people start joining make different hunger games for different tech levels.

[Riysa]

For the first question I believe this should be located in NS Sports, as it really isn't an international incident. If two countries decide to go to war with each other due to it, then their threads will be in II, but not this one. For the second we should probably keep it at melee and basic ranged weapons (bows, longbows, crossbows, etc.), and if enough nations show, maybe a few revolvers with incredibly limited ammo. For the third, Riysa would be interested but would require more details, especially on what kind of participants and the mortality rate expected (ie. is it Battle Royale or a wargame?).

[Polar Islandstates]

Presumably if you set something fairly arbitrary like 'one competitor is killed each scorination' then all it would need is an event on xkoranate whereby competitors are listed in order at the end. Skiing, or cycling, or a road race. Whatever. You could say specifically that the person at the top of the list that day was the person to kill the person at the bottom.

Not that I've read the books or seen the films, mind. Just a layman's suggestion.

[Giovenith]

I like Hunger Games, but honestly, it's been attempted on the forums so many times, usually by very ineptly, so I'm rather cynical towards the idea (one time someone made a nation for EVERY CHARACTER so they could "talk" in the thread). But if it's actually planned out and played by experienced people (preferably who've read the books), it would be great.

[Jormengand]

I like Hunger Games, but honestly, it's been attempted on the forums so many times, usually by very ineptly, so I'm rather cynical towards the idea (one time someone made a nation for EVERY CHARACTER so they could "talk" in the thread). But if it's actually planned out and played by experienced people (preferably who've read the books), it would be great.

Essentially? This. Though, I don't like the idea that's been put forth about randomly killing characters off based on a glorified RNG.

[Levivania]

I love the hunger games and I would love to participate you could use some kind of scorinator but for combat (they do make those) or you could create ur own rpg system, I could help with that

[Riysa]

If we do go ahead with this I think we should try NOT to follow the plot of the original books closely - I don't think many nations (including myself) would appreciate a Romeo and Juliet style win.

[The Archregimancy]

In terms of the tech level...

NS Sports doesn't typically deal with tech levels in the same way as the other RP fora - we often have nations with very different technology levels competing in the same tournament.

My suggestion would be to ignore the tech level issue entirely, and simply limit the available weapons.

A rule roughly along these lines, for example, would likely suffice:

"Firearms and futuristic weapons are banned; any competitor using one of these weapons will be immediately and automatically disqualified. If in doubt about what constitutes a 'futuristic weapon', then please ask in the relevant discussion thread."

[Polar Islandstates]

I like Hunger Games, but honestly, it's been attempted on the forums so many times, usually by very ineptly, so I'm rather cynical towards the idea (one time someone made a nation for EVERY CHARACTER so they could "talk" in the thread). But if it's actually planned out and played by experienced people (preferably who've read the books), it would be great.

Essentially? This. Though, I don't like the idea that's been put forth about randomly killing characters off based on a glorified RNG.

Emphasis added. Like I said, it was just a suggestion. Glorified RNGs are essentially what makes up NSSport's bread and butter, though, they generate the results and we write about them, the quality of which goes towards generating the next results. Without one of those I'd wonder why it was in this sub-forum as opposed to another one. Particularly if people are 'RPing the Hunger Games', rather than creating a fun version of the Hunger Games to take part in on NS with RPs. I guess that's a distinction that could be important here.

But, like I said. Not my scene, so I'll back out now.

[Natanya]

I would do it.

[Leorudo]

They have quite a few of these in the Portal to the Multiverse, there are some great examples to use for guidance. Yeah, I'd be in for a Hunger Games on NS Sports.

[Andossa Se Mitrin Vega]

For me personally it would rquire a random generator to spit out the results. That is what keeps our games interesting around here. After that, it becomes the responibility of each nation to write the stories that build the tournament. NS Sport usually depends on the three Rs. Randomness + RP + Rank = Results. As there would be no rankings in a first tournament, RP would carry heavier weight but randomness still rules the day. No one is guaranteed anything. That is what builds the suspense level.

[Holy Trek]

I have neither read the book nor viewed the movie; the story doesn't sound like my cup of tea. But there might be interest in this and I'm up for a scorination challenge if needed. If one of you can describe the competition here I can either put a scorinator together or recommend an existing scorinator to adapt.

The competition would actually pit regions against each other in a non-military, non-raiding way. The region that wins the competition would get a trophy which would be required to be shared among ALL the members of that region, as well as the right to state in a signature that your region is this year's champion. I haven't worked out the tech levels, though I'm thinking that the levels would increase as the competition progressed, so that everyone would be on the same tech level (this is just an idea, right now). The geographical locations would also change, in order to better challenge each competitor. In essence, each regional participant not only has to survive foreign regional competitors, but also nature.

In the movie (and probably the book, too, though I have never read it), only one person from a given district could claim victory. In this competition, I'm aiming for both the male and female competitors from a region to win. If only one of them survives to the end, however, special dispensation would be given.

In short, regional competitors must prove their skills at surviving the elements, foreign rivals, and their own selves by demonstrating tactical skill, strategic thinking, survival skills. Think of it like Hunger Games and Survivorman rolled into one.

[Holy Trek]

In terms of the tech level...

NS Sports doesn't typically deal with tech levels in the same way as the other RP fora - we often have nations with very different technology levels competing in the same tournament.

My suggestion would be to ignore the tech level issue entirely, and simply limit the available weapons.

A rule roughly along these lines, for example, would likely suffice:

"Firearms and futuristic weapons are banned; any competitor using one of these weapons will be immediately and automatically disqualified. If in doubt about what constitutes a 'futuristic weapon', then please ask in the relevant discussion thread."

I will implement a set of guidelines once there is enough support for this idea. As far as future weapons go, there will be a limitation on the types to be used. For example, PPGs and low-yield hand phasers (with only two settings: stun and kill) would be allowed, but..to quote Darth Vader "No disintegrations", which means any futuristic weapon which employs disintegration would be banned. And to prevent any loopholes, I would also include anything that vaporizes.

I do appreciate your thoughts and suggestions

[Jormengand]

For me personally it would rquire a random generator to spit out the results. That is what keeps our games interesting around here. After that, it becomes the responibility of each nation to write the stories that build the tournament. NS Sport usually depends on the three Rs. Randomness + RP + Rank = Results. As there would be no rankings in a first tournament, RP would carry heavier weight but randomness still rules the day. No one is guaranteed anything. That is what builds the suspense level.

I still don't like the idea that we are almost entirely at the mercy of what is still an RNG with bells and whistles on it.

[The Archregimancy]

I still don't like the idea that we are almost entirely at the mercy of what is still an RNG with bells and whistles on it.

Fair enough - but that's NS Sports.

If an NS Hunger Games takes place in this forum, then it will need some form of neutral results generator. This need not, strictly speaking, be a random number generator, but it should be both random and neutral.

This need not, however, preclude those who'd prefer a different approach from starting their own variant on the Hunger Games - without a scorinator - in an appropriate forum.

[Riysa]

I have neither read the book nor viewed the movie; the story doesn't sound like my cup of tea. But there might be interest in this and I'm up for a scorination challenge if needed. If one of you can describe the competition here I can either put a scorinator together or recommend an existing scorinator to adapt.

The competition would actually pit regions against each other in a non-military, non-raiding way. The region that wins the competition would get a trophy which would be required to be shared among ALL the members of that region, as well as the right to state in a signature that your region is this year's champion. I haven't worked out the tech levels, though I'm thinking that the levels would increase as the competition progressed, so that everyone would be on the same tech level (this is just an idea, right now). The geographical locations would also change, in order to better challenge each competitor. In essence, each regional participant not only has to survive foreign regional competitors, but also nature.

In the movie (and probably the book, too, though I have never read it), only one person from a given district could claim victory. In this competition, I'm aiming for both the male and female competitors from a region to win. If only one of them survives to the end, however, special dispensation would be given.

In short, regional competitors must prove their skills at surviving the elements, foreign rivals, and their own selves by demonstrating tactical skill, strategic thinking, survival skills. Think of it like Hunger Games and Survivorman rolled into one.

So, we're still going to have teens being killed? This is going to be incredibly interesting, asking for volunteers

Also, are we going to have a sponsorship mechanic in-game? I think it would be worth it, but it may crud up a bunch of stuff.

[Vampirum]

Also, are we going to have a sponsorship mechanic in-game? I think it would be worth it, but it may crud up a bunch of stuff.

I was just about to ask that question myself. But throwing my two cents in, I really like this idea. Obviously it'll involve a bit of tweaking to get it to work, but I'd be all for a NS Hunger Games.

[Holy Trek]

The competition would actually pit regions against each other in a non-military, non-raiding way. The region that wins the competition would get a trophy which would be required to be shared among ALL the members of that region, as well as the right to state in a signature that your region is this year's champion. I haven't worked out the tech levels, though I'm thinking that the levels would increase as the competition progressed, so that everyone would be on the same tech level (this is just an idea, right now). The geographical locations would also change, in order to better challenge each competitor. In essence, each regional participant not only has to survive foreign regional competitors, but also nature.

In the movie (and probably the book, too, though I have never read it), only one person from a given district could claim victory. In this competition, I'm aiming for both the male and female competitors from a region to win. If only one of them survives to the end, however, special dispensation would be given.

In short, regional competitors must prove their skills at surviving the elements, foreign rivals, and their own selves by demonstrating tactical skill, strategic thinking, survival skills. Think of it like Hunger Games and Survivorman rolled into one.

So, we're still going to have teens being killed? This is going to be incredibly interesting, asking for volunteers

Also, are we going to have a sponsorship mechanic in-game? I think it would be worth it, but it may crud up a bunch of stuff.

Sponsorship is a good idea. It will have to be limited to three corporations and three private citizens from each participating region, but I don't see why it can't be done.