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From Rushmore, With Love - World Cup 49 bid

Postby Pasarga » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:50 am

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World Cup 49
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Introduction
Hello and welcome to the lovely region known as Rushmore. I will be your guide for the duration of this visit to the bidding headquarters here in Torgos.

Here in Rushmore diversity is welcomed in all shapes, sizes, colours, and even species. We are a group of friendly nations just south of the famous region of Atlantian Oceania who just happen to be football crazy. It is our hope to spread this message of friendship and prosperity with the rest of the footballing community. Despite many many years of the blessed Candelaria And Marquez being the flagship of Rushmore, there are several growing powers within our lovely region. Nations like Nethertopia, Somewheristonia, and even tiny Logria are making themselves known the World over through same shape or form. As a result, the region has decided to attempt to bring home the World's premier footballing event in order to celebrate our regions' growth and prosperity. Pasarga and Logria have teamed up to bring you this bid and we hope that you the voters will see its merit and award us and yourselves the utmost honor of a Rushmori World Cup.


Scorination
In our attempts to make preparations for this bid, both Pasarga and Logria have invested heavily in the scorination technology known as NSFS using the latest version of 2.0.7. We have become aware that style modifiers in this scorination system are quite flawed and have concurred that for the benifit of the community, that if we were to win the bid, they would be limited to a +/- 3 system, with a modifier of +3 being the most attacking and -3 being the most defensive.

RP Bonus
Studies undergone at the University of Torgos have revealed that many nations' athletes implement the use of the performance enhancing drug known as "RPinin" or "RP Bonus" to get better performances out of themselves. While Pasargans dislike the use of stimulants to gain advantages, they realize that it is a long accepted practice of the footballing community. That said, the WCC officials employed by our two nations will check each nation that qualifies to ensure that their players are not overdosing on the drug and putting their health at risk. The last thing the world needs is a tragic death of an athlete who was just trying to perform honorably for their nation.
OCC: This means that we will be resetting the RP bonus for the Finals.

Format
Our statisticians have relayed to us that there is currently around 122 nations signed up for the competition. In this event, if the number were to hold, we would employ a method of 15 groups of 8 with the top two nations progressing to Pasarga/Logria. Depending upon further signups or the collapse of governments, the format will be adjusted and will be made known within hours on the WCC website. The post qualification ranks will be used to determine the seedings for the Finals draw with Pasarga and Logria being placed in what would be their normal pots rather than first seeds as has occasionally been the custom.

Friendlies
Due to the small population of each of our nations and the vast amount of nations that have signed up for the competition, our organizers have decided that they will be limiting official friendlies to one per nation per open slot. This means that each nation can have one official friendly at the pre-qualifying, mid-qualifying, and post-qualifying stages of the tournament. It is our hope by limiting the amount of friendlies per open slot that it will reduce the workload of the organizers as well as keep teams fresh. This however does not stop nations from organizing their own unofficial friendlies during this time.

Experience
While neither nation has hosted an international tournament of this caliber before, they have employed many foreigners who have previously worked in large scale competitions like the World Cup. These workers include some of those that were working in World Cups: 29, 39, 40, 43,45, and 47, Cup of Harmonies: VII, XV, and XXXII, as well as two Baptisms of Fire. With such vast experienced workers working with our organizers, there should be little problem for the two nations to run a smooth World Cup.

That concludes our tour of the Pasarga-Logria bid headquarters here in Torgos. If you have any questions regarding the potential hosting please visit our customer service desk in the lobby. An associate is there 24/7 to help anyone that has questions or concerns. We wish you all well and hope to be seeing you soon.


OCC: For those outside the know, Pasarga is the pupppet of Valanora and Logria the puppet of Krytenia.
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Postby Palmouth » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:29 am

Erm, the friendly matches will not be in your country, it just that you need to scorinate them!
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Postby Sorthern Northland » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:55 am

Yes, so they'll be doing the work to scorinate them won't they?
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Postby Palmouth » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:59 am

1 friendly in each section is not good enough!
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Postby Nethertopia » Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:03 am

We've had plenty of discussion about this. It's up to the hosts' discretion to decide whether or not one friendly per slot is OK or not. I suggest you voting against this bid, in that case, but please, refrain from commenting from this bid in a way that might imply laziness from the hosts.

Do you even have a remote idea of what a host has to do during a World Cup? They have to read pages upon pages of rosters and RPs and then scorinate as well. It's tough a job already, it might take several hours per day. And that for over a month. Be glad that some people take the time and patience to host this kind of events, otherwise we wouldn't even be able to participate in it...
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Postby Swartaz » Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:27 am

nice logo :clap:
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Postby Sarzonia » Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:42 am

OOC: For anyone who may have OOC reservations about experience or lack thereof of these hosts, perhaps adding in an OOC mention about the players' experience hosting sporting events would be beneficial.

After all, *I* know the main nations for Pasarga and Logria, but others might not have made the same connection.
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Postby Pasarga » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:12 pm

Added an OCC note at the end of the bid.

About the friendlies, I've already had to do a WC of 122 nations that employed the 3:3:3 format and it took me over an hour to setup the scorination files. As much as I love hosting, I do have some time constraints and can't afford an additional hour or more for non required work with friendlies. I'm sure it will probably lose us some votes, but it is a huge amount of work on top an already large amount of work just for the required scorinations.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:28 pm

Pasarga wrote:I'm sure it will probably lose us some votes.


Not from me it won't.

I haven't decided which bid to vote for yet, but I'm on record as openly stating that I think friendlies - which are not a required part of WC hosting - are out of control, and I think your decision to tackle this head on is the single most attractive element in your bid.

And besides, you openly state that there's no reason why nations can't arrange their own friendlies in the relevant slots; you're not limiting the number of friendlies to be played, merely the number of friendlies the hosts will be expected to scorinate in addition to their required hosting duties.
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Postby Newmanistan » Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:50 pm

Friendlies should be done at the hosts discretion, and the policy on friendlies is really the only technical difference between this bid and my bid with Babbage Islands. What people might also want to ask themselves concerning this bid is whether the user behind Valanora should host his 4th World Cup out of 7 Cups. That should be the biggest question here and not really the friendlies.
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Postby Slaytesics » Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:53 pm

OOC: When is the team list for the world cup going to be posted? Well atleast updated?
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Postby Valanora » Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:26 pm

Newmanistan wrote:Friendlies should be done at the hosts discretion, and the policy on friendlies is really the only technical difference between this bid and my bid with Babbage Islands. What people might also want to ask themselves concerning this bid is whether the user behind Valanora should host his 4th World Cup out of 7 Cups. That should be the biggest question here and not really the friendlies.

I really see that as a minor issue, not the biggest issue here.
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Postby Slaytesics » Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:42 pm

For this bid!
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Postby Valanora » Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:09 am

For the record, the tiebreakers that we would be using would be the default NSFS tiebreakers, which are: GD, GF, W. If teams are still tied, then it shall proceed to H2H criteria, and then a playoff if the tie(s) are still unbroken.
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Postby Commerce Heights » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:38 am

Valanora wrote:For the record, the tiebreakers that we would be using would be the default NSFS tiebreakers, which are: GD, GF, W. If teams are still tied, then it shall proceed to H2H criteria, and then a playoff if the tie(s) are still unbroken.

Alphabetical order is also a “default NSFS tiebreaker.” Now can you please stop using that phrase? :p

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Postby Valanora » Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:57 pm

Commerce Heights wrote:
Valanora wrote:For the record, the tiebreakers that we would be using would be the default NSFS tiebreakers, which are: GD, GF, W. If teams are still tied, then it shall proceed to H2H criteria, and then a playoff if the tie(s) are still unbroken.

Alphabetical order is also a “default NSFS tiebreaker.” Now can you please stop using that phrase? :p

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Okay, how about default NSFS statistical tiebreakers? :p
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Postby Valanora » Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:40 pm

After conferring with my potential cohost, we've decided that if we were to win the bid, we would look to create groups that if able to would look to avoid byes. We're both not averse to using playoffs and would prefer to use a group structure that would result in playoffs rather than byes.
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