NSSports Cricket Discussion Thread (OOC)

[The Plough Islands]

Are there any international one-day/Test competitions planned soon? I'd like to get involved if I may :3

I'll probably get the next Test season scheduling going next month.

Are there any prerequisites to taking part or do we just turn up and roleplay?

[Lisander]

I'll probably get the next Test season scheduling going next month.

Are there any prerequisites to taking part or do we just turn up and roleplay?

You should signup in the topic, and search for tests in the calendar when it's posted.

[Liventia]

I'll probably get the next Test season scheduling going next month.

Are there any prerequisites to taking part or do we just turn up and roleplay?

New teams can schedule up to five Tests in their maiden season (a limit which is removed once the user roleplays). It's a case of asking if other teams want to play you, really. See last season's thread for example.

[The Plough Islands]

Five sounds good, I don't know if I'd have time to do more anyway. December Park's gates will be open to visitors this season (should design the place really!)

[Damukuni]

Hello folks, it's been a month since I planned to scorinate the CLT20, but the end of my college career got in my way. I've recalled it, so if you've not gotten your league done yet, feel free to do so now.

My apologies for the inconvenience.

[Liventia]

Just to confirm, while we're here, that I will likely open signups/scheduling for the next Test season before the end of this month.

[The Kiaser Colonies]

Just needed to tag on here since I've unwittingly been missing all the NS Cricket news

[Liventia]

Kalactanian Cricket Cup
Semifinals
Gold Coast CC 123/5 (19 overs) 124/3-163/2 (20 overs) Murwelldobah Yellow Jackets
Kempsey CC (20 overs) 131/4-113/4 (18.4 overs) Coffs CC

Finals
Murwelldobah Yellow Jackets (20 overs) 117/3-126/5 (18 overs) Kempsey CC

Northwest Kalactin (NKO qualifiers)
Murwelldobah Yellow Jackets
Kempsey CC

Those are some impressively impossible results there.
*Yes, theoretically the two semi-final results are possible under Duckworth–Lewis–Stern. But none of the existing cricket scorinators on NS Sport support that at the moment. And the final result is still impossible.

[Northwest Kalactin]

Kalactanian Cricket Cup
Semifinals
Gold Coast CC 123/5 (19 overs) 124/3-163/2 (20 overs) Murwelldobah Yellow Jackets
Kempsey CC (20 overs) 131/4-113/4 (18.4 overs) Coffs CC

Finals
Murwelldobah Yellow Jackets (20 overs) 117/3-126/5 (18 overs) Kempsey CC

Northwest Kalactin (NKO qualifiers)
Murwelldobah Yellow Jackets
Kempsey CC

Those are some impressively impossible results there.
*Yes, theoretically the two semi-final results are possible under Duckworth–Lewis–Stern. But none of the existing cricket scorinators on NS Sport support that at the moment. And the final result is still impossible.

Too bad it’s what the scorinater said

[Darmen]

Those are some impressively impossible results there.
*Yes, theoretically the two semi-final results are possible under Duckworth–Lewis–Stern. But none of the existing cricket scorinators on NS Sport support that at the moment. And the final result is still impossible.

Too bad it’s what the scorinater said

If that's the case, your scorinator is broken. The first semifinal has three scores, not the two it should have.

[Northwest Kalactin]

Too bad it’s what the scorinater said

If that's the case, your scorinator is broken. The first semifinal has three scores, not the two it should have.

well I do use a excel document I put together and I’m horrible with technology

[Barunia]

Kalactanian Cricket Cup
Semifinals
Gold Coast CC 123/5 (19 overs) 124/3-163/2 (20 overs) Murwelldobah Yellow Jackets
Kempsey CC (20 overs) 131/4-113/4 (18.4 overs) Coffs CC

Finals
Murwelldobah Yellow Jackets (20 overs) 117/3-126/5 (18 overs) Kempsey CC

Northwest Kalactin (NKO qualifiers)
Murwelldobah Yellow Jackets
Kempsey CC

Those are some impressively impossible results there.
*Yes, theoretically the two semi-final results are possible under Duckworth–Lewis–Stern. But none of the existing cricket scorinators on NS Sport support that at the moment. And the final result is still impossible.

If it's an excel issue, then perhaps NK screwed up and it should read 123/5 - 124/3, 163/2 - 131/4, and 113/4 - 117/3? I left out overs because there's no telling where they belong to. But, if that is the case, where did the 126/5 come from?

NK, you can copy and paste directly from xkoronate. Maybe if you haven't erased the file you should try that?

[Liventia]

If that's the case, your scorinator is broken. The first semifinal has three scores, not the two it should have.

well I do use a excel document I put together and I’m horrible with technology

You should probably understand how the sport you're doing a scorinator for works first before you put the scorinator together, then. I'd also like to see the spreadsheet, so please upload your Excel document somewhere if you don't mind.

Murwelldobah Yellow Jackets (20 overs) 117/3-126/5 (18 overs) Kempsey CC
This is simply not a possible score. If Kempsey were on 117/5 after 18 overs, the most they could score is 124/5 (6 + no ball) to finish on 18 overs. Or, if they were 117/5 after 17.5 overs, the most they could score is 123/5 (a 6) to finish on 18 overs.

If Kempsey batted first, there's no way they only bat 18 overs. If the innings was cut short due to rain, the second innings would also be cut short.

Similar problems apply to the two semi-finals, even ignoring the first one with three scores. A team will only not use its full 20 overs if it's bowled out or wins the game. (Again, allowing for rain, but that then brings a complex mathematical formula into play that you almost definitely don't know.)

[Northwest Kalactin]

well I do use a excel document I put together and I’m horrible with technology

You should probably understand how the sport you're doing a scorinator for works first before you put the scorinator together, then. I'd also like to see the spreadsheet, so please upload your Excel document somewhere if you don't mind.

Murwelldobah Yellow Jackets (20 overs) 117/3-126/5 (18 overs) Kempsey CC
This is simply not a possible score. If Kempsey were on 117/5 after 18 overs, the most they could score is 124/5 (6 + no ball) to finish on 18 overs. Or, if they were 117/5 after 17.5 overs, the most they could score is 123/5 (a 6) to finish on 18 overs.

If Kempsey batted first, there's no way they only bat 18 overs. If the innings was cut short due to rain, the second innings would also be cut short.

Similar problems apply to the two semi-finals, even ignoring the first one with three scores. A team will only not use its full 20 overs if it's bowled out or wins the game. (Again, allowing for rain, but that then brings a complex mathematical formula into play that you almost definitely don't know.)

First of all sharing my excel document would be giving out my full name on the internet and I’m not going to do that thank you. Also if you want to teach me to make a proper excel scorinater I would appreciate that

[Lisander]

First of all sharing my excel document would be giving out my full name on the internet and I’m not going to do that thank you. Also if you want to teach me to make a proper excel scorinater I would appreciate that

Show some decency and respect for people on these boards, and delete your name of the document. You can do this easily, just following this 5-minute tutorial. After it, upload it to Tinyupload. Tinyupload does not trace your information. One can't simply expect to be allowed to participate without providing decent evidence of competition. Your entry in Champions League T20 is an insult to each end every scorinator who ensures its championships are running properly and in a fair way, and you insult us even more with your nonsense. It's not like we would use your name to voodoo or to buy things on internet.

Sorry, people, just had to say.

[Northwest Kalactin]

First of all sharing my excel document would be giving out my full name on the internet and I’m not going to do that thank you. Also if you want to teach me to make a proper excel scorinater I would appreciate that

Show some decency and respect for people on these boards, and delete your name of the document. You can do this easily, just following this 5-minute tutorial. After it, upload it to Tinyupload. Tinyupload does not trace your information. One can't simply expect to be allowed to participate without providing decent evidence of competition. Your entry in Champions League T20 is an insult to each end every scorinator who ensures its championships are running properly and in a fair way, and you insult us even more with your nonsense. It's not like we would use your name to voodoo or to buy things on internet.

Sorry, people, just had to say.

Okay I’ll rescorinate it

[Barunia]

Show some decency and respect for people on these boards, and delete your name of the document. You can do this easily, just following this 5-minute tutorial. After it, upload it to Tinyupload. Tinyupload does not trace your information. One can't simply expect to be allowed to participate without providing decent evidence of competition. Your entry in Champions League T20 is an insult to each end every scorinator who ensures its championships are running properly and in a fair way, and you insult us even more with your nonsense. It's not like we would use your name to voodoo or to buy things on internet.

Sorry, people, just had to say.

Okay I’ll rescorinate it

Can you clarify, are you using a spreadsheet to scorinate?

[Northwest Kalactin]

Okay I’ll rescorinate it

Can you clarify, are you using a spreadsheet to scorinate?

I’m using Xkorinate on my school Laptop

[Barunia]

Kalactanian Cricket Cup
Semifinals
Gold Coast CC 158-4 (20 overs)-(20 overs) 148-8 Murwelldobah Yellow Jackets
Kempsey CC 165-8 (20 overs)- (19.2 overs) 162-4 Coffs CC

Finals
Kempsey CC 213-6 (20 overs)- (18 overs) 176-4 Gold Coast CC

Northwest Kalactin (NWK) Qualifiers
Kempsey CC
Gold Coast CC

Sorry, but no. Still not possible. Let's have a quick look at the final. You've got Gold Coast only batting 18 overs without being bowled out (they only lost 4 wickets) and being 37 runs behind. That simply would not happen.

Likewise with Coffs inexplicably stopping 4 balls early with 4 runs still to win and 6 wickets in hand.

EDIT: as you said you're using xkoronate, just copy and paste the results directly into the forum please.

[Northwest Kalactin]

Kalactanian Cricket Cup
Semifinals
Gold Coast CC 158-4 (20 overs)-(20 overs) 148-8 Murwelldobah Yellow Jackets
Kempsey CC 165-8 (20 overs)- (19.2 overs) 162-4 Coffs CC

Finals
Kempsey CC 213-6 (20 overs)- (18 overs) 176-4 Gold Coast CC

Northwest Kalactin (NWK) Qualifiers
Kempsey CC
Gold Coast CC

Sorry, but no. Still not possible. Let's have a quick look at the final. You've got Gold Coast only batting 18 overs without being bowled out (they only lost 4 wickets) and being 37 runs behind. That simply would not happen.

Likewise with Coffs inexplicably stopping 4 balls early with 4 runs still to win and 6 wickets in hand.

EDIT: as you said you're using xkoronate, just copy and paste the results directly into the forum please.

Okay I’ll just not do this with the trouble my scorinater has been having lately

[Mattijana]

The thing is if you’re using a Xkoranate properly, which really doesn’t take a rocket scientist, scoring a whole league should be a completely painless experience. That’s what makes us feel that you’re either not using a good scorinator or being a muppet, or indeed both.

I’m available for help by telegram if you want, but it doesn’t need you to completely quit for things to be an easy experience.

[Liventia]

After doing the ranks for GCF 9, I want to bring up a discussion over whether ranks should be retained for longer. (This discussion is specific to Test cricket; the World Twenty20 already uses the three most recent championships with the more recent tournaments having a bigger impact on the ranks.)

Until GCF 6, the rule was that ranks used the two most recent seasons plus the ongoing season (i.e., GCF 4, 5, and 6 ongoing). But I felt this was producing some teams that were too strong (including Liventia) and others that were too weak, hence for GCF 7 I reduced this to just the most recent complete season plus the ongoing season (GCF 6 + 7 ongoing). At the same time, I introduced the system where ranks would be averaged with 100 to bring the extremes a bit closer in.

The side effect of only using the most recent complete season is that teams that miss a season lose their ranks. For GCF 9, this affects Mattijana and Ethane, who both took part in GCF 7 but not 8; and Elejamie, who took part in GCF 7 but only scheduled a single one-off Test last season.

The question is, since the system where ranks are averaged with 100 seems to be doing its job, should we re-introduce the extra season in ranks for GCF 10? Meaning GCF 8 and 9 results would both count? If so, should we reduce the effect of the first season ranking points like in other sports? Or should we stick to just the most recent complete season?

Thoughts welcome.

[Damukuni]

Hiya folks!

The deadline for the next CLT20 (domestic) will be Tuesday at 9:30 PM US ET.

[Apox]

In response to Liventia’s points raised, I can’t see a problem with changing the rankings back to including three seasons (including the current one).

[Eura]

In response to Liventia’s points raised, I can’t see a problem with changing the rankings back to including three seasons (including the current one).

I concur.