The World Cup Discussion Thread (OOC, version III)

[Tsaraine]

God dammit! I lost.

Slembana, you've been asked repeatedly - by players and Mods alike - to cease with the off-topic irrelevancies in this thread. As you've not done so, I'm forced to take up the Mean Mod Mallet and give you an *** Official Warning for Spamming ***. Please take this as a less-than-gentle reminder not to curb your enthusiasm, but to direct it to the proper channels; further warnings you accrue will be progressively less gentle, and may result in temporary forumbans.

~ Tsar the Mod.

[Mapletish]

Now I finally RP... my results are still bad. Though a loss vs. FSSO was expected... Still 5th, but how the hell am I supposed to go up the ranking if I just keep losing every second match

Your bad Ko-oren

[Starblaydia]

Congrats to The Babbage Islands for going green in the tables now. I'm all purply now.

so am I.. does that mean that I'm infected with a Starbalydi diesease??

If so, please let it be the one that wins World Cups.

Well, checking my list of conditions, you certainly have shameless self-promotion disorder as well as OhDearGodWon'tSomeoneShutHimUpitis. As for the one that makes you more likely to contract international trophies, I couldn't possibly comment

Now I finally RP... my results are still bad. Though a loss vs. FSSO was expected... Still 5th, but how the hell am I supposed to go up the ranking if I just keep losing every second match

You've had some appalling luck. Third place should have been nailed on for you, with the outside chance of an upset play-off position. What shouldn't be happening is some white and purple team leaping up to second spot, pushing everyone bar the first seed down a place or two.

[The Archregimancy]

God dammit! I lost.

Slembana, can I please kindly remind you that you've been told repeatedly to not talk about your every match here. That's what the RP thread is for. We really don't need to know your results here.

As I've already done in IRC, I would like to ask that no further comments be directed towards Slembana asking him to cease and desist with the spam unless said request comes directly from a mod.

If anyone believes he's engaging in behaviour that runs counter to the site rules, please simply report it in the Moderation forum, or file a getting help request.

[Kinitaria]

Just wondering, what are the criteria for sorting teams who are locked on points?

[Starblaydia]

Just wondering, what are the criteria for sorting teams who are locked on points?

It's all there in the manual.

[NSWC Signups]

Voting results are in.

[Starblaydia]

Voting results are in.

15 voters out of an eligible 73? I know the single bid may have been seen as (and was, congrats Vil) a formality, but really? Really? Really?

[Legalese]

Voting results are in.

15 voters out of an eligible 73? I know the single bid may have been seen as (and was, congrats Vil) a formality, but really? Really? Really?

Clearly the WCC is not the right body to select the CoH hosts

I'll stop being facetious for a moment (with the argument used to pull the CoH host decision from the EWCC to the whole WCC) and gently toss out the idea of tightening the WCC membership guidelines a little (adding an extra cycle to the RP requirements, as well as a 3-4 cycle automatic membership for CoH/BoF hosts who maintain their activity with that nation - along with the current EWCC membership requirements), but in return giving them all host and presidential voting privs - with the remaining EWCC serving in the capacity of intervening if the host(s) are not abiding by their bid/really slani-ing up the hosting job.

[Taeshan]

Voting results are in.

15 voters out of an eligible 73? I know the single bid may have been seen as (and was, congrats Vil) a formality, but really? Really? Really?

Bro i know you might think that thats a bad percentage of the whole, and imma let you finish. But a formality it may have been......I dont know where i was going with this......Goes back to watching Scrubs.

[Starblaydia]

15 voters out of an eligible 73? I know the single bid may have been seen as (and was, congrats Vil) a formality, but really? Really? Really?

Clearly the WCC is not the right body to select the CoH hosts

I'll stop being facetious for a moment (with the argument used to pull the CoH host decision from the EWCC to the whole WCC) and gently toss out the idea of tightening the WCC membership guidelines a little (adding an extra cycle to the RP requirements, as well as a 3-4 cycle automatic membership for CoH/BoF hosts who maintain their activity with that nation - along with the current EWCC membership requirements), but in return giving them all host and presidential voting privs - with the remaining EWCC serving in the capacity of intervening if the host(s) are not abiding by their bid/really slani-ing up the hosting job.

So you make it slightly harder to enter/maintain the WCC, and give them BoF voting rights too? Not the greatest trade-off in the world when the voting evidence is shaky at best.

Automatic fixed-term membership of the WCC based on a CoH/BoF host seems unnecessarily bureaucratic to me (well, you are called Legalese for a reason) for nations who would more than likely be qualifying for WCC membership anyway, so overall I don't see much that I actually like about that not-quite-proposal.

[Bears Armed]

Voting results are in.

15 voters out of an eligible 73? I know the single bid may have been seen as (and was, congrats Vil) a formality, but really? Really? Really?

Oops! Left voting until "later" when the poll opened, so that I could get some RP written first, and then forgot to get back to it...

[Slembana]

Guys, I'm not posting every match.

[Legalese]

Clearly the WCC is not the right body to select the CoH hosts

I'll stop being facetious for a moment (with the argument used to pull the CoH host decision from the EWCC to the whole WCC) and gently toss out the idea of tightening the WCC membership guidelines a little (adding an extra cycle to the RP requirements, as well as a 3-4 cycle automatic membership for CoH/BoF hosts who maintain their activity with that nation - along with the current EWCC membership requirements), but in return giving them all host and presidential voting privs - with the remaining EWCC serving in the capacity of intervening if the host(s) are not abiding by their bid/really slani-ing up the hosting job.

So you make it slightly harder to enter/maintain the WCC, and give them BoF voting rights too? Not the greatest trade-off in the world when the voting evidence is shaky at best.

Automatic fixed-term membership of the WCC based on a CoH/BoF host seems unnecessarily bureaucratic to me (well, you are called Legalese for a reason) for nations who would more than likely be qualifying for WCC membership anyway, so overall I don't see much that I actually like about that not-quite-proposal.

Eh, fair enough. It was fairly half-hearted, on the idea that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" applies here, and the judgement that it's certainly not perfect nor planned, but it's not so broken that it's the end. I just recall the previous conversation on this subject, and figured I'd see if it was worth raising again, or if the petering out of it was truly a sign that everyone's fine enough with what we have.

And for what it's worth, I do think that hosting a CoH/BoF to its completion is a worthy reason to grant membership rights - more so than remembering to post a roster at least twice in a row, IMO - and should a discussion to change the membership criteria occur, I'd at the very least push for that to be a way in (even if it's the road that's not often taken).

[Eastfield Lodge]

Must. Find. Time. To. RP.

[Aguazul]

For reference, because the vote was so one-sided even twenty-four hours ago (and a formality) I didn't bother with the "one day left to vote!" reminder I've been trying to do more of. I figured there really wasn't much benefit to more turnout. But for a more contested vote I would do that again and maybe get a few more votes to trickle in.

[Starblaydia]

And for what it's worth, I do think that hosting a CoH/BoF to its completion is a worthy reason to grant membership rights - more so than remembering to post a roster at least twice in a row, IMO - and should a discussion to change the membership criteria occur, I'd at the very least push for that to be a way in (even if it's the road that's not often taken).

On that point I'd say that if you can't manage a roster two Cups in a row, even if you have hosted a CoH/BoF in the recent past, what the hell do you think you're doing having a say in who gets to vote?

[Liventia]

I would be for tightening WCC membership guidelines, but I think the current WC/CoH/BoF voting rules work fine (and indeed I'm one of a small minority who still feel CoH host voting should never have been extended beyond the EWCC).

So if anyone's up for it, I think it would be a good idea to look at new criteria for WCC membership.

[Slembana]

With my bad behaviour on these forums, I'm not going to get a CoH invite.

[Liventia]

With my bad behaviour on these forums, I'm not going to get a CoH invite.

Cup of Harmony invitations are linked to quality of roleplay during the World Cup qualifiers and nothing else.

[Union Isle]

Just discovered my old account, Inthelittlenation is taking part in the World Cup

Slightly too late...I assume the rankings tables are updated again after the World Cup ends.

[The Archregimancy]

Guys, I'm not posting every match.

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[Legalese]

As for the one that makes you more likely to contract international trophies, I couldn't possibly comment

Slani, Star just went full Urquhart in here. Didn't anyone tell you that you never go full Urquhart*?

*Unless you want to be PM as long as Thatcher, and have your reign end with your assassination, orchestrated by your wife to ensure your legacy, that is.

[Turori]

With my bad behaviour on these forums, I'm not going to get a CoH invite.

Cup of Harmony invitations are linked to quality of roleplay during the World Cup qualifiers and nothing else.

This. As CoH host (thanks all) I will be looking for quality of contribution in the RP thread.

[Starblaydia]

As for the one that makes you more likely to contract international trophies, I couldn't possibly comment

Slani, Star just went full Urquhart in here. Didn't anyone tell you that you never go full Urquhart*?

*Unless you want to be PM as long as Thatcher, and have your reign end with your assassination, orchestrated by your wife to ensure your legacy, that is.

You've lost me, but that sounds like the beginnings of a cool RP.