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Free South Califas
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Postby Free South Califas » Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:38 am

I apologize to the hosts and the community in general for the implications of my wording. By way of explanation, I did not intend to make any accusation except to note that I received an implied "threat" (too strong a word, I now realize) that future RPs in a similar style would be given 0s. To be more specific, I have had no cause to believe that intentional discrimination could have been taken place, and I have never doubted the hosts' good intentions.

Thank you, community, for your advice here, and I'm sorry for causing a stir. For what it's worth, I feel like an idiot for not spoilering those early RPs. To explain the small portion that was C/P'ed from the Warkus Cup thread, my intention in doing so was to clarify which games had their scoring stats decided by someone else, to make sure I didn't get more credit than was due for coming up with my individual statistics. More importantly, though, I'm sorry for leaving so much raw data and copypasta unspoilered. That goes out to everyone, not just the hosts. I have now fixed the ones linked above. The advice I have received from the community on this issue and on RP style, including in the telegram in question, has been greatly helpful and has been well-intentioned without exception. I again stress that the community has been more than helpful and welcoming and that no one I have noticed seems to exercise any intentional or systematic bias. Any implication to the contrary was unwarranted on my part. If I had foreseen that implication being inferred, I would have definitely chosen more appropriate wording. This experience has helped sharpen my proofing eye. I will be more careful in the future.

By the way, I have noticed that my problematic post from the last Olympics was referenced in this discussion. That one was copyspam, and I quietly followed the advice that the host sent me in response. Comparisons to that incident could, IMHO, run the risk of imprecision and invite cognitive errors, considering how much my posts have changed in a short period of time as illustrated in the links above.

(Also: Arcadian Islands had me a touch worried, I must admit, but Bela was undeterred. You heard it here first ;) )
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Postby Warkus » Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:53 am

Free South Califas wrote:snip


No problem, everyone has an incident here and there in these forums. Mine being in the case of the 1st WIFC.
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Postby Starblaydia » Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:12 am

All's well that ends well.

Free South Califas wrote:my intention in doing so was to clarify which games had their scoring stats decided by someone else, to make sure I didn't get more credit than was due for coming up with my individual statistics

It's not so much 'credit' for 'X scored Y goals', as someone has to score the goals that have been generated - and the generator wasn't you, so that's out of your control, too. Some players are great with poor stats, others poor with great stats, and for others ability is actually proportional to their stats - it all depends on the players we are all creating on everybody's teams every time we play each other.

This is why I demand other people to choose my scorers if they RP first, because I prefer to see what someone else makes of my squad - do they want to RP with my 'obvious' super-star striker to increase their reputation yet-further (people were fond of doing that with Valrauncion or anyone surnamed 'Di Bradini' on my teams) or give the unheralded journeyman defender a moment of glory?

You can always 'massage' your players' statistics one way or another with your own choices - I did this with SDB in his last tournament where he scored something silly like 9 goals in 5 games to reach as high a tally as possible, but often other RPers will do it for you, one way or another. It all adds up to a more diverse backstory that the less control you have over it, the more real it feels.
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:20 am

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Haha I'll have to remember that for next time

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Postby Slembana » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:08 am

How many teams qualify from each group?

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Postby Cyborg Holland » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:10 am

Slembana wrote:How many teams qualify from each group?


1, and then the Runner-up goes into a play-off

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Postby Qazox » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:30 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:
Haha I'll have to remember that for next time

The country ended up with everybody's life-force absorbed by a demon that some schemers there (including an intern) had summoned. :(


and some moved to Qazox for some reason. Our bureaucracy has never been more confusing! :)
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Postby Western cuba » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:02 am

Cyborg Holland wrote:
Slembana wrote:How many teams qualify from each group?


1, and then the Runner-up goes into a play-off


I still dread this format, every cup it seems like I clinch third on the last match day.
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BTW.. just wants opinions.. but are my poems annoying everyone yet or no?
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Postby Mytannion » Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:29 am

Just going to apologise now for the fact that I probably will not be role-play until Monday or Tuesday as it is likely I will be away from a computer until then due to my cousin getting married. So sorry in advance to anybody in my group for not being able to until then…
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Postby West Angola » Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:22 pm

Curse you Margaret! Two draws against a team without a roster ranked below 250 and one to an unranked team!
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Postby New Montreal States » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:55 pm

I got back to Illinois from Egypt alright. The hard part was spending a week stewing in a new house with no internet access and no car. I'd like to apologize to my groupmates and to PIS, for keeping two of his most important characters incommunicado for a week.

I finally posted a roster, and now I'm going to go make my way through the RPs.
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Postby Carmadin » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:59 pm

Mytannion wrote:Just going to apologise now for the fact that I probably will not be role-play until Monday or Tuesday as it is likely I will be away from a computer until then due to my cousin getting married. So sorry in advance to anybody in my group for not being able to until then…

Congrats to your cousin, mine actually just got engaged :)
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Postby Starblaydia » Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:01 pm

As one reappears, another vanishes. I'm off to Poland for a four day weekend tomorrow morning, so will miss those MDs. But with a solitary song parody to my name this cup, you're all probably glad I am going so I can't post more of that crap ;)
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Postby Carmadin » Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:02 pm

Starblaydia wrote:As one reappears, another vanishes. I'm off to Poland for a four day weekend tomorrow morning, so will miss those MDs. But with a solitary song parody to my name this cup, you're all probably glad I am going so I can't post more of that crap ;)

Say hey to Ukraine for me, Star! :)
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Postby Thatius » Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:17 pm

Is it weird to notice that every single person in my future roster has at least one 'k' in their name?

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Postby Osarius » Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:38 pm

Starblaydia wrote:As one reappears, another vanishes. I'm off to Poland for a four day weekend tomorrow morning, so will miss those MDs. But with a solitary song parody to my name this cup, you're all probably glad I am going so I can't post more of that crap ;)

I was quite entertained, actually. That song is infuriatingly catchy.

If I find myself muttering your version at my desk tomorrow, though.............
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Postby Starblaydia » Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:39 pm

Osarius wrote:
Starblaydia wrote:As one reappears, another vanishes. I'm off to Poland for a four day weekend tomorrow morning, so will miss those MDs. But with a solitary song parody to my name this cup, you're all probably glad I am going so I can't post more of that crap ;)

I was quite entertained, actually. That song is infuriatingly catchy.

If I find myself muttering your version at my desk tomorrow, though.............

If it stops people writing 'Starblaydian' then I'll be happy.
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Postby Licentiapacisterra » Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:48 pm

Starblaydia wrote:
Osarius wrote:I was quite entertained, actually. That song is infuriatingly catchy.

If I find myself muttering your version at my desk tomorrow, though.............

If it stops people writing 'Starblaydian' then I'll be happy.


Just officially change it to Starblaydian. It's what I did when I realised people really couldn't be arsed writing Licentiapacisterran :P
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Postby Licentiapacisterra » Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:50 pm

Wight wrote:
Licentiapacisterra wrote:
Just officially change it to Starblaydian. It's what I did when I realised people really couldn't be arsed writing Licentiapacisterran :P


You can't just discard 25000 IC years of being Starbladistanis because people can't be arsed, Licenthropia.


You could, quite easily actually. :P
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Postby Ossidiacqua » Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:56 pm

Licentiapacisterra wrote:
Starblaydia wrote:If it stops people writing 'Starblaydian' then I'll be happy.


Just officially change it to Starblaydian. It's what I did when I realised people really couldn't be arsed writing Licentiapacisterran :P


The demonym for someone from Licentiapacisterra is Starblaydian!?
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Postby Licentiapacisterra » Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:08 pm

Ossidiacqua wrote:
Licentiapacisterra wrote:
Just officially change it to Starblaydian. It's what I did when I realised people really couldn't be arsed writing Licentiapacisterran :P


The demonym for someone from Licentiapacisterra is Starblaydian!?


Too late PIS. Commerce Heights already made that joke on IRC :P
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Postby Krytenia » Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:21 pm

Daehanjeiguk wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:I'm missing the joke.


Dancougar was the land of interns. If something goes wrong, blame the Dancougarite intern and fire him/her.

Alternatively, blame the Krytenian logistician (the modern variation of the joke, stemming from many scorination delays in the Ashton Games).
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Postby Daehanjeiguk » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:45 pm

Starblaydia wrote:If it stops people writing 'Starblaydian' then I'll be happy.


The reality: it's just as fun as calling the elves "Valanorians". Goodness, that took many years of Imperial intervention to stamp out... of course, there's a reason why it persists...
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