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Postby Andrewboy » Tue May 25, 2010 4:32 am

i lose 3-2 and i got up a place?!
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Postby Zarbli » Tue May 25, 2010 9:56 am

Oh, boy, just realized I lost a post that were already 3/4 written :P
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Andrewboy wrote:Im so happy! I got a very lucky result against Valanora, beating them 2-1 at home. I was hoping for a draw.


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Postby Toiletdonia » Tue May 25, 2010 12:13 pm

I have looked at the tables and I found an error. Kelssek and me are on equal points but I'm on better goal difference and still behind them. Is that an error or have I read the tiebreakers all wrong?
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Postby Delaclava » Tue May 25, 2010 12:25 pm

Toiletdonia wrote:I have looked at the tables and I found an error. Kelssek and me are on equal points but I'm on better goal difference and still behind them. Is that an error or have I read the tiebreakers all wrong?


Head-to-head is the second tiebreaker, after wins. You're equal on wins, but Kelssek beat you 1-0.
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Postby Toiletdonia » Tue May 25, 2010 12:31 pm

Delaclava wrote:
Toiletdonia wrote:I have looked at the tables and I found an error. Kelssek and me are on equal points but I'm on better goal difference and still behind them. Is that an error or have I read the tiebreakers all wrong?


Head-to-head is the second tiebreaker, after wins. You're equal on wins, but Kelssek beat you 1-0.


REALLY! If I had the vote I would have been against that! Oh well that might work for me later it's still a fair system.
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Jalanat wrote:Or like that time I misheard something my mom said about the rain and I thought that rain was made of dirty goats for 5 months.

Jalanat wrote:I hope you weren't trying to call me a reindeer, we mooselike are a hundred times better than the reindeerlike. Stupid reindeers. Oh, look at me, I am a reindeer, look at my not so big antlers which look ugly compared to mooses, oooh look at me, I am a reindeer, I am flying in the sky pulling a fat man in red clothes in a sled.

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Postby Liventia » Wed May 26, 2010 3:11 am

Head-to-head is becoming more prevalent both on NS and IRL as the preferred tiebreaker over goal difference (like in UEFA competitions, for example). There's nothing wrong with you not liking the preference, but it's a fact that has to be faced.
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Postby Zarbli » Wed May 26, 2010 8:28 am

Lost again, what a surprise.
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Postby Toiletdonia » Wed May 26, 2010 9:00 am

Zarbli wrote:Lost again, what a surprise.


Just enjoy the RP and write off the defeats in RP.
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Jalanat wrote:Or like that time I misheard something my mom said about the rain and I thought that rain was made of dirty goats for 5 months.

Jalanat wrote:I hope you weren't trying to call me a reindeer, we mooselike are a hundred times better than the reindeerlike. Stupid reindeers. Oh, look at me, I am a reindeer, look at my not so big antlers which look ugly compared to mooses, oooh look at me, I am a reindeer, I am flying in the sky pulling a fat man in red clothes in a sled.

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Postby Zarbli » Wed May 26, 2010 9:06 am

Toiletdonia wrote:
Zarbli wrote:Lost again, what a surprise.


Just enjoy the RP and write off the defeats in RP.


I'm doing that... I just like to complain :)
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Postby Sarzonia » Wed May 26, 2010 9:12 am

Personally, I like head-to-head being more prominent.
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Postby Liventia » Wed May 26, 2010 9:41 am

Sarzonia wrote:Personally, I like head-to-head being more prominent.

Personally, I really don't mind either way. I do extremely dislike number of wins as the first tiebreaker for association football though, which is why I chose not to vote for (or, indeed, against) the bid.
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Postby Cafundeu » Wed May 26, 2010 11:04 am

I am looking for someone to prepare a CoH bid with me... and, taking the path of the conversation going on, preferably someone who doesn't mind or has a positive view about number of wins as a tiebreaker :p
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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Wed May 26, 2010 11:08 am

Cafundeu wrote:I am looking for someone to prepare a CoH bid with me... and, taking the path of the conversation going on, preferably someone who doesn't mind or has a positive view about number of wins as a tiebreaker :p

If you don't mind taking on a relatively inexperienced co-host here, then I'd be up for it. And this will be open to anyone who wants a co-host.
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Postby Toiletdonia » Wed May 26, 2010 12:23 pm

I would as well but I still need some tutoring.
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Jalanat wrote:Or like that time I misheard something my mom said about the rain and I thought that rain was made of dirty goats for 5 months.

Jalanat wrote:I hope you weren't trying to call me a reindeer, we mooselike are a hundred times better than the reindeerlike. Stupid reindeers. Oh, look at me, I am a reindeer, look at my not so big antlers which look ugly compared to mooses, oooh look at me, I am a reindeer, I am flying in the sky pulling a fat man in red clothes in a sled.

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Postby Krytenia » Wed May 26, 2010 4:06 pm

Liventia wrote:
Sarzonia wrote:Personally, I like head-to-head being more prominent.

Personally, I really don't mind either way. I do extremely dislike number of wins as the first tiebreaker for association football though, which is why I chose not to vote for (or, indeed, against) the bid.

I'm an old fart*, and set in my GDish ways...

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Postby The Weegies » Wed May 26, 2010 4:08 pm

Sorry I've not been RPing, access to computer has been limited (Plus, I'm needing to look for a job).

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Postby Delaclava » Wed May 26, 2010 5:32 pm

Liventia wrote:
Sarzonia wrote:Personally, I like head-to-head being more prominent.

Personally, I really don't mind either way. I do extremely dislike number of wins as the first tiebreaker for association football though, which is why I chose not to vote for (or, indeed, against) the bid.


Any particular reason? I'm just curious, as I haven't really given much thought to that particular tiebreaker.
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Postby Liventia » Wed May 26, 2010 6:17 pm

Number of wins just isn't used that commonly in real life (in fact, I can think of only one major country that uses it as the first tiebreaker, which is Brazil). When it comes down to separating two teams I'd rather use their performance against each other or their overall performance in scoring and defending.
Winning a game 4-0 and losing two tough games 1-0 to two 90th minute goals should arguably get a team in over a team in the exact opposite situation (winning two games 1-0 though lucky 90th minute goals but getting thrashed 4-0 in the other).
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Postby Delaclava » Wed May 26, 2010 6:42 pm

Liventia wrote:Number of wins just isn't used that commonly in real life (in fact, I can think of only one major country that uses it as the first tiebreaker, which is Brazil). When it comes down to separating two teams I'd rather use their performance against each other or their overall performance in scoring and defending.
Winning a game 4-0 and losing two tough games 1-0 to two 90th minute goals should arguably get a team in over a team in the exact opposite situation (winning two games 1-0 though lucky 90th minute goals but getting thrashed 4-0 in the other).


Excellent point, never thought of it that way.

One could also argue that assuming the teams played the same amount of games and have the same number of points, and Team A has less wins than Team B, it means that Team A also has less losses.
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Postby Sarzonia » Wed May 26, 2010 6:45 pm

Krytenia wrote:I'm an old fart*, and set in my GDish ways...

*Not actually that old.

I'm an even older fart and I'm set in my head-to-head ways. So :P

On another note: Losing 3-2 to Pasarga at fucking HOME? >:(

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Postby Tyrrin » Wed May 26, 2010 8:15 pm

7-4? Highest scoring game in Tyrrinian history, along with probably the longest RP in Tyrrinian history :lol: . Yafor's losing streak is really going to help our qualification chances.

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Postby Jeruselem » Wed May 26, 2010 8:53 pm

Toiletdonia wrote:
Zarbli wrote:Lost again, what a surprise.


Just enjoy the RP and write off the defeats in RP.


Just blame the ref ... :lol:
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Postby Zarbli » Wed May 26, 2010 9:09 pm

Jeruselem wrote:
Toiletdonia wrote:
Zarbli wrote:Lost again, what a surprise.


Just enjoy the RP and write off the defeats in RP.


Just blame the ref ... :lol:


Did that already. Also threatened the coach of being fired and the lastest one was a havoc in the streets... I really don't have a clue of what to write in my next, apparently certain, defeat :lol:
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