World Baseball Classic Discussion Thread

[The Sherpa Empire]

Good WBC.

[Super-Llamaland]

Congrats to Banija................ and thanks to the hosts, as well as all the active participants, for another great WBC!

[Quintessence of Dust]

Thanks to the hosts & congrats to Banija.

[Ethane]

Congrats to Banija................ and thanks to the hosts, as well as all the active participants, for another great WBC!

Why'd you highlight the text darker?

And congrats to Banija, well done to the hosts for a well-run tournament.

[Daskel]

Congrats to Banija on their well deserved title, and thank to the hosts for this superb WBC!

[Cassadaigua]

Congrats, Banija! Great job on the hosting as well, other than for the Cassadaigua-Kohnhead series.

Administrative stuff will happen during the week, as many of you know, there's a World Cup group draw coming this weekend that has me busy right now here.

[Banija]

Thank you guys for the congratulations! I greatly appreciate it.

And well done to Tikariot & SNL for hosting a great tournament, and for taking the time to scorinate 3 game series. It's a lot of extra work to do that, so they deserve a round of applause for doing so

This was a blast in every way! Looking forward to 52

[Kohnhead]

Congrats Banija it was a well deserved win and I'm glad to see that Group 8 truly was the best with both finalists and a quarterfinalist. Group 8 did not lose a playoff series to anyone outside of the Group

Commiseriations to SNL who did a great job hosting alongside Tikariot

I too am looking forward to the next WBC as I set personal bests in this one

[JuniEdith]

Why I chose baseball
Playing baseball gives hand-eye coordination a big boost
Successfully catching a small baseball that’s traveling quickly through the air requires a ton of hand-eye coordination. The same thing goes for batting, because making contact and hitting the ball out of the park isn’t easy.
Hand-eye coordination may not come naturally in the beginning, but will improve significantly with more practice.

[Sarzonia]

I'm curious about the updated ranks after WBC 51.

[South Americanastan]

I'm curious about the updated ranks after WBC 51.

Same, this was definitely a weird year in terms of eliminations

[Cassadaigua]

I've been behind on the adminstrative stuff here, I will admit, due to preparing for the WC and other RL factors, but I'm hoping to get rolling with that this week, but it may be early next week.

In terms of the rankings, Drawkland controls that. I'll drop him a TG concerning them.

[Drawkland]

I'll get the ranks done this week. Just dropped off the earth for a bit.

[Nova Anglicana]

This article gives an idea of historical no-hitter rates in MLB. According to it, no-hitters have occurred in approximately 0.13% of MLB games, or about once every 770 games. Using this rate, you'd have to play in about 26(!) 30-game WBC group stages before throwing one no-hitter. Of course, every nation here isn't an MLB-caliber team, but it should give some context as to how often you might want to RP a no-hitter.

[Sarzonia]

I don't remember the last time I RP'd a Sarzonian pitcher throwing a no-hitter.

[Quintessence of Dust]

At a glance, Lycrabon had one in 46, Cassadaigua in 48, Quebec in 49, TJUN-ia in 50 and 51. I imagine it's usually 1 or 2 per WBC which is way more frequent than IRL. But then you can argue the WBC talent field is much more diverse than the MLB one. At international play IRL, not just in baseball, weaker teams can be absolutely terrible and lead to these vast mismatches. Ultimately down to individual users' discretion, of course.

[South Newlandia]

At a glance, Lycrabon had one in 46, Cassadaigua in 48, Quebec in 49, TJUN-ia in 50 and 51. I imagine it's usually 1 or 2 per WBC which is way more frequent than IRL. But then you can argue the WBC talent field is much more diverse than the MLB one. At international play IRL, not just in baseball, weaker teams can be absolutely terrible and lead to these vast mismatches. Ultimately down to individual users' discretion, of course.

Actually, the frequencies in the WBC and the MLB seem to be about balanced. Remember that there were 900 group stage games in WBC51, with knockouts not even accounted for yet, so one no-hitter in those and the 1 in 770 odds Nova mentioned seem very comparable.

[Quintessence of Dust]

But that's only counting the last few. If we counted back, older WBCs had far fewer games yet still produced a steady stream of no-hitters.

[South Newlandia]

But that's only counting the last few. If we counted back, older WBCs had far fewer games yet still produced a steady stream of no-hitters.

Thats probably true, yeah.

[Sarzonia]

I don't remember the last time I RP'd a Sarzonian pitcher throwing a no-hitter.

I went back and looked and it was nearly 11 years ago to the day the only time I ever RP'd a Sarzonian pitcher tossing a no-hitter.

[Hapilopper]

I don't think I've ever RP'd a Hapiloppian no-hitter and I'm not entirely sure I want to, because I'm not sure how the other player would take it.

In Hapilopper, no-hitters are rare, perfect games even more so. There's probably one no-hitter every second or third year due to Hapiloppian baseball's reliance on bunting and other small ball tactics. While it is considered poor form to bunt your way out of a no-hitter IRL, it is not the case in Hapilopper - after all, you're supposed to get on base any way you see fit. As for perfect games, I think in Hapilopper there's probably one every 15-20 years. It's just one of those things that just doesn't happen.

[Sarzonia]

The only time I have an issue with it is if I already RP'd it differently.

I think I had my pitcher throw a two-hit shutout against Barnettsville and some time later, he RP'd it as my pitcher throwing a perfect game.

[World Baseball Classic]

Voting Matter:

During World Baseball Classic 51, we had a couple constitutional amendments come to light. Because the first one deals with WBC Council membership, I have decided to hold this vote prior to a potential WBC Council vote.

Question #1: In a nutshell, this amendment proposes the elimination of Council voting and making Council membership automatic. Voting YES for this proposal will implement the changes. Voting NO for this proposal will maintain the current process. This proposal also would implement some wording changes elsewhere in the constitution that would simply erase references to the voting process, since membership would be automatic.

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Article I: Council Eligibility
Section 1: To be an eligible member of the Council, a nation must have fulfil at least one of the following criteria:
Clause a. Participated (meaning posted a roster and at least ONE RP) in each of the previous 2 Classics and be approved by a simple majority vote of the current Council. (ie: if there are currently 10 or 11 voting members are on the council, then 6 members would have to approve, etc.) This is to limit the number of members of the Council to the truly active participants. Both the roster and RP must be posted in a timely manner, prior to the nation's elimination from that Classic.
Clause b. Hosted or co-hosted one of the last 3 Classics, even if the nation has not posted a roster and at least one RP in the last 2 Classics.

Section 2: Any member of the Council that no longer meets one of the criteria outlined in Section 1 shall cease to be a member of the Council, and can only regain that status by meeting Section 1 once more. To maintain membership, a nation must fulfil at least one of the following criteria:
Clause a. Hosting (or co-hosting) a Classic, (if possible), within the next 3 Classics.
Clause b. Participate (meaning post a roster and at least ONE RP) in the subsequent Classic.

Section 3: If a Member of the Council fails to maintain its membership (by failure to fulfill any of the above criteria), it shall have 1 Classic to retain membership (by fulfilling any of the above criteria). If the Member does not do so, then it shall not be eligible for membership on the Council for a minimum of one Classic.

Section 4: Any previous hosts of the Classic within the last three WBCs are also eligible, pending a simple majority vote of the current Council.

Question 2: This clears up any potential confusion, which was centered around this statement: "For a Council vote to be considered valid, at least one more than one half of the total number of members of the Council (50%+1) must have voted on the motion or election at hand." Voting YES accepts the amendment, while voting NO keeps the requirement that 50% + 1 of Council membership must register a vote on a topic in order for the result of that topic's vote to be valid.

Article VII: Voting Procedures

Section 1: Any option on a motion or election that receives the most votes after a set period of voting shall be approved.

Section 2: Votes may be held over any duration of time as specified by the person opening the vote, except where provided for by the Constitution. However, if a measure receives the votes of one more than half the active Council membership, voting on that item may end early at the collector's discretion.

Section 3: If two or more options on a motion or election are tied following the set period of voting, the tied options shall be voted on again by the Council for a time period half that of the original.

Voting on this matter will close on Wednesday, May 20 at 8pm EDT. Active WBC Council members (in signature) can send their votes for question #1 and #2 to World Baseball Classic. Thank you.

[Drawkland]

I'll get the ranks done this week. Just dropped off the earth for a bit.

As threatened, the ranks have been completed. Check 'em here. As always, let me know if you spot any errors.

[Barnettsville]

But that's only counting the last few. If we counted back, older WBCs had far fewer games yet still produced a steady stream of no-hitters.

I remember when (I believe) my other nation (Lycrabon) started, I took crap for attempting to have a perfect game and a no-no back to back. Granted, I also learned from that.