World Baseball Classic Discussion Thread

[The Sherpa Empire]

If it's about my RP, then permissions have nothing to do with it -- especially permissions from a completely separate tournament.

My country had an outbreak last year, which is now contained. You can't ask me to rewrite my country's history from WBC 48.

You're talking about it in your RP and in your roster, which is a problem. I don't want my players to travel to a country who RPs about it.

None of it happened anywhere near your team.

Next WBC you can ask the host to avoid putting us in the same group, but I can't guarantee what they'll do.

Salty, salty Terre. If you can't take somebody RPing about a virus unrelated to corona, even if it happened in the past in that specific nation, don't dish it out. This is, in my opinion, and I am sorry Terre if this triggers you, very poor behavior. Are you kidding me? Bitching about Sherpa using a historic SARS outbreak in his nation in an RP and not taking your players there because they USED to have a SARS outbreak? Shame. On. You.

It's not unrelated to corona, and it wasn't necessary to take this tone.

[Terre Septentrionale]

I didn't see anywhere in the RP where Sherpa said that Nordique players had been infected with the disease, and while I can't speak for Sherpa, I didn't read anything in the RP that suggested anything other than "the virus has been contained." TS, I don't see anything where your guys were involved with the pandemic.

I've put in my permissions section of my roster to not involve me with any pandemic-related RPing. If a player had written anything related to a pandemic in a RP following - or preceding - a game where they were facing me, I'd look through it a bit closer to make sure I wasn't involved or my players - or any Hapiloppians - were going to be RP'd as coming down with an illness of some sort. If the post was like Sherpa's, I'd just ignore it and move on because it didn't involve me. I understand where you're coming from - you don't want to be involved with pandemic-related roleplaying, but I don't see anywhere where Sherpa involved you in a pandemic. It looks like Sherpalander characters were discussing something that happened in their country.

None of it happened anywhere near your team.

Next WBC you can ask the host to avoid putting us in the same group, but I can't guarantee what they'll do.

Yeah you don't say anything involving my team, but they travelled to a country who RPs about having or having had a sars outbreak and I don't like it.

Idk if I can ask a host to avoid a particular nation but I would like it if I can (not just you).

I really hate what's happening right now. I got a seasonal job last fall and I worked from september to november. Then I was suppose to start working again in april but because of the fucking coronavirus I'm still not working and idk when I will ever work again. And all this shit about mandatory masks in my country and a possible future vaccine makes me really angry. I don't wanna hear about the coronavirus or any other pandemic even in RPs.

That's why I probably overreacted.

[The Sherpa Empire]

I didn't see anywhere in the RP where Sherpa said that Nordique players had been infected with the disease, and while I can't speak for Sherpa, I didn't read anything in the RP that suggested anything other than "the virus has been contained." TS, I don't see anything where your guys were involved with the pandemic.

I've put in my permissions section of my roster to not involve me with any pandemic-related RPing. If a player had written anything related to a pandemic in a RP following - or preceding - a game where they were facing me, I'd look through it a bit closer to make sure I wasn't involved or my players - or any Hapiloppians - were going to be RP'd as coming down with an illness of some sort. If the post was like Sherpa's, I'd just ignore it and move on because it didn't involve me. I understand where you're coming from - you don't want to be involved with pandemic-related roleplaying, but I don't see anywhere where Sherpa involved you in a pandemic. It looks like Sherpalander characters were discussing something that happened in their country.

None of it happened anywhere near your team.

Next WBC you can ask the host to avoid putting us in the same group, but I can't guarantee what they'll do.

Yeah you don't say anything involving my team, but they travelled to a country who RPs about having or having had a sars outbreak and I don't like it.

Idk if I can ask a host to avoid a particular nation but I would like it if I can (not just you).

I really hate what's happening right now. I got a seasonal job last fall and I worked from september to november. Then I was suppose to start working again in april but because of the fucking coronavirus I'm still not working and idk when I will ever work again. And all this shit about mandatory masks in my country and a possible future vaccine makes me really angry. I don't wanna hear about the coronavirus or any other pandemic even in RPs.

That's why I probably overreacted.

I hope you can find a job, but it has nothing to do with my RPing.

I have the opposite problem where I work in a warehouse and we are getting trashed because everyone is ordering more things online.

[Tikariot]

From the perspective of a newcomer to roleplaying (and I know that I just repeat things others have already posted), I do not see any issue with Sherpa's RP either, especially since Terre Septentrionale added the clause to the RP permissions after the fact, so the "This was edited after Sherpa's RP which I DO NOT RECOGNIZE." and especially the portion in capitals feels out of place. Like others said, as long as nobody from your nation is affected IC, and even more so since it was talk about something that had happened in the past, I do not see any reason to try to harp on Sherpa for using it in his (or her?) RP.

And for the "And all this shit about mandatory masks in my country and a possible future vaccine makes me really angry." If you don't want to read about it, jump over the RP or sections and move on. While I rather not have to read about the whole thing either, it's part of reality, unfortunately. People getting angry over having to wear masks or staging protests about it, like in the US and apparently recently also here in Canada - they make me angry, because as much of a hassle as the masks are, as much they are part of how we hopefully can get the virus and pandemic and all that out of the daily headlines. I lost my job because of the pandemic as well, but there's nothing I could do about it (worked in the airline industry), so to me it is not something worth getting worked up over, but rather focus on the things that I can influence.

Just my five cents (for those not in the know, Canada doesn't have pennies anymore)...

[Newmanistan]

WBC 49 ANNOUNCEMENT:

Free Republics has reached out to me concerning his withdrawal from NS Sports and expressed the desire to not advance to the playoffs. I have decided to honor this request.

-- Should FFR finish in the top two of his group, he will be "disqualified"*** . This spot will be given to the BEST THIRD PLACE team from ANY group, and not automatically the third place team from his group.

-- Should FFR not finish in the top two of his group, then it is business as usual with the two qualifiers.

***- The Disqualification: FFR has stated that he will RP his team being disqualified for sign stealing, something that he has RP'd his nation doing in the past, so it would not be something created out of the blue. This will be done after the group stage. Therefore, do not RP the potential for FFR to be disqualified until he actually provides this RP.

RP for Now: This information is for your OOC information right now. ICly, this only becomes an issue if FFR finishes in the top two. If you are a third place team on the bubble of getting that potential spot, keep this is the back of your mind as we finish out the group stage, but the spot should not be RP'd as being potentially available until FFR provides this RP. Of course, don't forget that this spot does not become available if FFR doesn't end up in the top two of his group to begin with.

[Sarzonia]

I want to state here for the record that I do not want to continue the RP storyline with Free Republics that involved the political tensions between our countries.

I'll make no further mention of it in my RPs and I ask them to adhere to my request.

[Tikariot]

WBC 49 ANNOUNCEMENT:

Free Republics has reached out to me concerning his withdrawal from NS Sports and expressed the desire to not advance to the playoffs. I have decided to honor this request.

-- Should FFR finish in the top two of his group, he will be "disqualified"*** . This spot will be given to the BEST THIRD PLACE team from ANY group, and not automatically the third place team from his group.

-- Should FFR not finish in the top two of his group, then it is business as usual with the two qualifiers.

***- The Disqualification: FFR has stated that he will RP his team being disqualified for sign stealing, something that he has RP'd his nation doing in the past, so it would not be something created out of the blue. This will be done after the group stage. Therefore, do not RP the potential for FFR to be disqualified until he actually provides this RP.

RP for Now: This information is for your OOC information right now. ICly, this only becomes an issue if FFR finishes in the top two. If you are a third place team on the bubble of getting that potential spot, keep this is the back of your mind as we finish out the group stage, but the spot should not be RP'd as being potentially available until FFR provides this RP. Of course, don't forget that this spot does not become available if FFR doesn't end up in the top two of his group to begin with.

So in the case that this happens, how would the seeding work? Would the best third-placed team be automatically the #16 seed or would it still be based on the actual points, since the best third could at least theoretically have more points than some second-placed teams. Just wondering.

[Newmanistan]

WBC 49 ANNOUNCEMENT:

Free Republics has reached out to me concerning his withdrawal from NS Sports and expressed the desire to not advance to the playoffs. I have decided to honor this request.

-- Should FFR finish in the top two of his group, he will be "disqualified"*** . This spot will be given to the BEST THIRD PLACE team from ANY group, and not automatically the third place team from his group.

-- Should FFR not finish in the top two of his group, then it is business as usual with the two qualifiers.

***- The Disqualification: FFR has stated that he will RP his team being disqualified for sign stealing, something that he has RP'd his nation doing in the past, so it would not be something created out of the blue. This will be done after the group stage. Therefore, do not RP the potential for FFR to be disqualified until he actually provides this RP.

RP for Now: This information is for your OOC information right now. ICly, this only becomes an issue if FFR finishes in the top two. If you are a third place team on the bubble of getting that potential spot, keep this is the back of your mind as we finish out the group stage, but the spot should not be RP'd as being potentially available until FFR provides this RP. Of course, don't forget that this spot does not become available if FFR doesn't end up in the top two of his group to begin with.

So in the case that this happens, how would the seeding work? Would the best third-placed team be automatically the #16 seed or would it still be based on the actual points, since the best third could at least theoretically have more points than some second-placed teams. Just wondering.

The best third place team, if it occurs, will be seeded as if they finished second. If FFR wins the group, the second place team from the group will be seeded as if they finished first.

[Northwest Kalactin]

Hey Guys. As per this post I am interested in bidding for WBC 50, using the BASEinator program. Please contact me if interested, through PM or TG.

[Newmanistan]

Please be advised that I am cancelling cutoff today and will move everything back one day, starting tomorrow. This is due to Tropical Storm Isaias, as I am in the track of an area that will get hit quite hard, around the time cutoff would be.

[Hapilopper]

Be safe, Newmanistan.

[Super-Llamaland]

Please be advised that I am cancelling cutoff today and will move everything back one day, starting tomorrow. This is due to Tropical Storm Isaias, as I am in the track of an area that will get hit quite hard, around the time cutoff would be.

Stay safe!

[Sarzonia]

Your safety is way more important than any game within a game.

Good luck!

[Banija]

Stay safe Newmanistan!

[The Royal Kingdom of Quebec]

Stay Safe Newman!

[The Sherpa Empire]

Please be advised that I am cancelling cutoff today and will move everything back one day, starting tomorrow. This is due to Tropical Storm Isaias, as I am in the track of an area that will get hit quite hard, around the time cutoff would be.

Ah yeah, I have a tropical storm warning too. Stay stafe.

[Delaclava]

An idea I had regarding the WBC rankings:

In my opinion, for any given tournament, no team should be earning more points than the eventual champion. Although all games are important, the WBC with its series format is a long tournament in terms of games played. A lot can happen over time, particularly with regard to accumulated RP bonus, and there's no separate qualifying phase like the World Cup - it's all grouped together into the same number.

The World Bowl rankings have made this adjustment in awarding maximum points to the champion. While I like this principle, I don't think that execution makes sense because there are so many more games and at least a handful of losses are expected. My idea would then be: if the champion does not have the most wins in the tournament, their ranking should be adjusted to credit them with the same number of "wins", and therefore the same tournament points (the "Section 1 quotient", per the WBC Constitution) as the winningest team.

Curious to hear others' thoughts on this!

[Tikariot]

An idea I had regarding the WBC rankings:

In my opinion, for any given tournament, no team should be earning more points than the eventual champion. Although all games are important, the WBC with its series format is a long tournament in terms of games played. A lot can happen over time, particularly with regard to accumulated RP bonus, and there's no separate qualifying phase like the World Cup - it's all grouped together into the same number.

The World Bowl rankings have made this adjustment in awarding maximum points to the champion. While I like this principle, I don't think that execution makes sense because there are so many more games and at least a handful of losses are expected. My idea would then be: if the champion does not have the most wins in the tournament, their ranking should be adjusted to credit them with the same number of "wins", and therefore the same tournament points (the "Section 1 quotient", per the WBC Constitution) as the winningest team.

Curious to hear others' thoughts on this!

I agree.

[Sarzonia]

An idea I had regarding the WBC rankings:

In my opinion, for any given tournament, no team should be earning more points than the eventual champion. Although all games are important, the WBC with its series format is a long tournament in terms of games played. A lot can happen over time, particularly with regard to accumulated RP bonus, and there's no separate qualifying phase like the World Cup - it's all grouped together into the same number.

The World Bowl rankings have made this adjustment in awarding maximum points to the champion. While I like this principle, I don't think that execution makes sense because there are so many more games and at least a handful of losses are expected. My idea would then be: if the champion does not have the most wins in the tournament, their ranking should be adjusted to credit them with the same number of "wins", and therefore the same tournament points (the "Section 1 quotient", per the WBC Constitution) as the winningest team.

Curious to hear others' thoughts on this!

I also agree. If a team makes a run from a lower seed to a championship, they should get some benefit from winning the title at the expense of the team with a better record that falls short.

[The Sherpa Empire]

I think the rank system is fine the way it is.

[Newmanistan]

I don't think we need to change the ranking system, but would not be opposed to the change if it was decided upon.

[Hapilopper]

Not entirely sure when my RP will come tonight. I am on the Bonneville Salt Flats right now for Speedweek and I'm probably going to be here until the runs end at 5:30 (7:30 Eastern) today.

[The Sherpa Empire]

Not entirely sure when my RP will come tonight. I am on the Bonneville Salt Flats right now for Speedweek and I'm probably going to be here until the runs end at 5:30 (7:30 Eastern) today.

At least you're doing something cool.

[Hapilopper]

On second thought, go on without me. I'm not going to have time to put in an RP.

[Hapilopper]

Congratulations on a very well-deserved win, Sherpa, and congratulations on a fantastic tournament, Newmanistan. Looking forward to WBC 50!