World Baseball Classic Discussion Thread

[Schiltzberg]

Dang, that's stone cold.

Also the OOC reason why I didn't do any counteroffers was because the offers were already incredibly high to a somewhat unrealistic degree, and I thought it would get out of hand if all the nations started bidding each other upwards of $45 million per year, since the top paid player IRL "only" makes $33 million.

I'm sure that's going to change a year from now when quite a few star players hit the free agent market. Rumor has it that teams "low-balled" the free agents this offseason because they're saving money for next year (but I wouldn't call 5 years, $125 million for an aging slugger with comparables whose batting stats fell off a cliff in what would be the equivalent of year 2 of that deal a "low-ball" offer).

That could be true. There is also speculation that salaries have been increasing at an alarming rate for the past decade, which has created sort of a bubble in the market, and that the bubble just popped this offseason, and we have reached the point where teams aren't going to pay $30 million per year for a Darvish or Arrieta anymore.

[North Prarie]

I'm sure that's going to change a year from now when quite a few star players hit the free agent market. Rumor has it that teams "low-balled" the free agents this offseason because they're saving money for next year (but I wouldn't call 5 years, $125 million for an aging slugger with comparables whose batting stats fell off a cliff in what would be the equivalent of year 2 of that deal a "low-ball" offer).

That could be true. There is also speculation that salaries have been increasing at an alarming rate for the past decade, which has created sort of a bubble in the market, and that the bubble just popped this offseason, and we have reached the point where teams aren't going to pay $30 million per year for a Darvish or Arrieta anymore.

On a semi-related note, the Righteous Bay Lions are looking for elite international players. If a player from a top 20 nation in the rankings wants to sign, we can RP about it.

[The Sherpa Empire]

Holstrom: Yeah, well maybe him and Mallory can play a little golf with one another instead now while Cassadaigua and Super-Llamaland move on.

Dang, that's stone cold.

Also the OOC reason why I didn't do any counteroffers was because the offers were already incredibly high to a somewhat unrealistic degree, and I thought it would get out of hand if all the nations started bidding each other upwards of $45 million per year, since the top paid player IRL "only" makes $33 million.

Yeah, I was noticing that it got a little crazy with the amounts being offered. I'm not really a fan of letting the salaries and whatnot get inflated just because it's RP instead of real money changing hands. As well as the bidding for Fitzhugh, I kind of wonder what's the IC reasoning for NP offering $6 million to a high school kid.

If people want to have high salaries, it'd be nice to do more to explain what's going on ICly. Is their currency over-valued? Does their whole economy have high prices and high salaries? Does their nation have some weird cult-like fixation on sports that drives up salaries? $45 million with a good IC explanation is a lot different than $45 million just cos.

[Super-Llamaland]

I've definitely thought about this issue as well. Personally, I think that having a flow of players between nations is definitely healthy for NS baseball RP like the World Baseball Classic (it provides something to RP about and makes things more realistic, as obviously, players go to different leagues IRL as well), which is why I initially put Justin Zheng up for sale. Doing this definitely compromises the original premise of the LBL/my nation (which I kind of referenced in one of my RPs), but it's much easier to talk about transferring star players than lesser-known ones (since people don't really RP their baseball leagues in depth, nobody actually knows about the lesser-known players since they receive no RP attention).

Considering that Zack Greinke went for 6 years/$207 million a few years ago, though, I felt that a Fitzhugh-like player could definitely get 6Y/$230 on the open market today (although I admittedly didn't realize how old he was when I bid). Some of the other bids were pushing it, though.

[North Prarie]

Dang, that's stone cold.

Also the OOC reason why I didn't do any counteroffers was because the offers were already incredibly high to a somewhat unrealistic degree, and I thought it would get out of hand if all the nations started bidding each other upwards of $45 million per year, since the top paid player IRL "only" makes $33 million.

Yeah, I was noticing that it got a little crazy with the amounts being offered. I'm not really a fan of letting the salaries and whatnot get inflated just because it's RP instead of real money changing hands. As well as the bidding for Fitzhugh, I kind of wonder what's the IC reasoning for NP offering $6 million to a high school kid.

If people want to have high salaries, it'd be nice to do more to explain what's going on ICly. Is their currency over-valued? Does their whole economy have high prices and high salaries? Does their nation have some weird cult-like fixation on sports that drives up salaries? $45 million with a good IC explanation is a lot different than $45 million just cos.

Yeah, I thought about that offer too. NK said that he was a "star outfielder", so I didn't want to be paying a 21 year old all star 200K a year.

EDIT: Once I download a scorinator, I am going to host a international 16 team tournament, along with a club tournament of the same size. We should also start a Baseball Champions League, or something like that.

[Super-Llamaland]

We already have one, dw

[North Prarie]

We already have one, dw

Yes, I knew about the CBC. But we should have something that has A. More associations and B. Is almost constantly happening, since the WBC only takes place every 3 months.

[Newmanistan]

Also the OOC reason why I didn't do any counteroffers was because the offers were already incredibly high to a somewhat unrealistic degree, and I thought it would get out of hand if all the nations started bidding each other upwards of $45 million per year, since the top paid player IRL "only" makes $33 million.

That's fine, we'll try for the next one!

If people want to have high salaries, it'd be nice to do more to explain what's going on ICly. Is their currency over-valued? Does their whole economy have high prices and high salaries? Does their nation have some weird cult-like fixation on sports that drives up salaries? $45 million with a good IC explanation is a lot different than $45 million just cos.

Personally, because my nation has a "frightening" economy (I do use NS stats), is sports-obsessed, and baseball is our most successful sport (making our league have prestige to foreigners), I feel fine with my big teams offering big contracts and trying to swipe away international stars. If it were, say, a soccer transaction, I would not attempt to outbid a storied World Cup nation. I think it's just a case of knowing where your nation is, in the grand scheme of things.

[North Prarie]

Also the OOC reason why I didn't do any counteroffers was because the offers were already incredibly high to a somewhat unrealistic degree, and I thought it would get out of hand if all the nations started bidding each other upwards of $45 million per year, since the top paid player IRL "only" makes $33 million.

That's fine, we'll try for the next one!

If people want to have high salaries, it'd be nice to do more to explain what's going on ICly. Is their currency over-valued? Does their whole economy have high prices and high salaries? Does their nation have some weird cult-like fixation on sports that drives up salaries? $45 million with a good IC explanation is a lot different than $45 million just cos.

Personally, because my nation has a "frightening" economy (I do use NS stats), is sports-obsessed, and baseball is our most successful sport (making our league have prestige to foreigners), I feel fine with my big teams offering big contracts and trying to swipe away international stars. If it were, say, a soccer transaction, I would not attempt to outbid a storied World Cup nation. I think it's just a case of knowing where your nation is, in the grand scheme of things.

That's how I feel, too. Baseball is our most popular sport and we have a frightening economy. Also, the Lions have backing from rich foreign investors, so.......

[North Prarie]

okay. just downloaded xkoronate 0.3.3. How do I use it?

[The Sherpa Empire]

That's fine, we'll try for the next one!



Personally, because my nation has a "frightening" economy (I do use NS stats), is sports-obsessed, and baseball is our most successful sport (making our league have prestige to foreigners), I feel fine with my big teams offering big contracts and trying to swipe away international stars. If it were, say, a soccer transaction, I would not attempt to outbid a storied World Cup nation. I think it's just a case of knowing where your nation is, in the grand scheme of things.

That's how I feel, too. Baseball is our most popular sport and we have a frightening economy. Also, the Lions have backing from rich foreign investors, so.......

Here's the thing... Newmanistan has RPed about his nation being sports-obsessed, such as here: viewtopic.php?p=33491119#p33491119 So when he comes along and says he's making high offers to international stars because his nation has a frightening economy and is sports obsessed, I can go back and see where he set that up. If you're going to go that route, you should think about how you build your narrative.

[North Prarie]

[The Sherpa Empire]

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Shouldn't this have its own thread?

[Free Republics]

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Shouldn't this have its own thread?

I think opening a signup thread ASAP is probably a good idea if the goal is to start on March 12th.

[North Prarie]

Shouldn't this have its own thread?

I think opening a signup thread ASAP is probably a good idea if the goal is to start on March 12th.

The signups are going to start march 12.

[Newmanistan]

What exactly is your tournament going to be, North Prarie?

[Schiltzberg]

What exactly is your tournament going to be, North Prarie?

^^

[North Prarie]

What exactly is your tournament going to be, North Prarie?

A 16-team tournament for high-average ranked national baseball teams. It will be accompanied by a 16-team club tourney of the same size, but 4 will be mine.

[Schiltzberg]

What exactly is your tournament going to be, North Prarie?

A 16-team tournament for high-average ranked national baseball teams. It will be accompanied by a 16-team club tourney of the same size, but 4 will be mine.

By national teams, do you mean domestic league teams?

[North Prarie]

A 16-team tournament for high-average ranked national baseball teams. It will be accompanied by a 16-team club tourney of the same size, but 4 will be mine.

By national teams, do you mean domestic league teams?

No, by teams that you would put in the WBC, for example. Teams with players only from said country. Domestic league teams will be in the accompanying club tournament.

[Schiltzberg]

By national teams, do you mean domestic league teams?

No, by teams that you would put in the WBC, for example. Teams with players only from said country. Domestic league teams will be in the accompanying club tournament.

I do not see what the purpose would be to have the tournament then, since we already have the WBC.

[North Prarie]

No, by teams that you would put in the WBC, for example. Teams with players only from said country. Domestic league teams will be in the accompanying club tournament.

I do not see what the purpose would be to have the tournament then, since we already have the WBC.

Just as a fun tourney/a tournament between WBC cycles. I am not planning on jt to become an annual thing, though if the domestic team tournament blows up I may continue that.

[Schiltzberg]

I do not see what the purpose would be to have the tournament then, since we already have the WBC.

Just as a fun tourney/a tournament between WBC cycles. I am not planning on jt to become an annual thing, though if the domestic team tournament blows up I may continue that.

Okay, well I guess it would be worth a shot.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

GL tomorrow everyone!

[Schiltzberg]

Team Name        1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Total
Super-Llamaland  0  0  0  0  1  0  0  0  1  1  0  0  0  0  0  2   5
Cassadaigua      0  0  1  0  0  0  0  1  0  1  0  0  0  0  0  1   4

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